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The immigration referendum debate...

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  • 17-05-2004 6:42pm
    #1
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Please simply out your name forward by stating: FOR or AGAINST the motion.
    Please dont start/continue arguing the merits or otherwise of the referendum here, this isnt the place.

    The topic is very simple: That this site should support the governments proposal and vote YES in the upcoming immigration referendum.

    DeV.


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    #2
    AngelofFire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭AngelofFire


    my name is christopher bond. i am AGAINST the motion


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    #3
    arcadegame2004
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭arcadegame2004


    My name is Andrew Rooney. I am FOR the motion.


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    #4
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Hee! A simple typo has boardsers "outing" themselves left, right and centre.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, DeV, but when you said "put your name forward" I'm sure a boards handle would have done nicely, no? :)


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    #5
    bonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Also...at the risk of being impertinent...

    when, exactly, is this debate taking place?

    (I'm interested depending on the timing)


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    arcadegame2004
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭arcadegame2004


    I want to debate for the "Yes" side.


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    arcadegame2004
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭arcadegame2004


    How do I read the debate so far? i now realsie the logos area is supposed ot be private. Im confused lol


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    Villain
    Registered Users Posts: 15,946 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Originally posted by arcadegame2004
    How do I read the debate so far? i now realsie the logos area is supposed ot be private. Im confused lol

    Hasn't started yet, logos will open when it starts.

    Why not start a poll to see when it should be opened, lol Only Joking


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    MrPudding
    Registered Users Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Originally posted by arcadegame2004
    I want to debate for the "Yes" side.

    Really!

    MrP


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    #10
    BEAT
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    is this the referendum that says you become a citizen if you have a kid in ireland and you are not yourself from ireland?

    I dont think this should be aloud...people having a kid so they can stay in a country should not be aloud...so put me down for which ever side that falls on and I will debate.


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    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by BEAT
    is this the referendum that says you become a citizen if you have a kid in ireland and you are not yourself from ireland?

    I dont think this should be aloud...people having a kid so they can stay in a country should not be aloud...so put me down for which ever side that falls on and I will debate.
    The basic idea of the referendum is that anyone born here is not necessarily automatically made a citizen, you have to fulfill certain criteria first, e.g. have at least one parent who's a citizen.


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    BEAT
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    so because I feel that they should not be considered a citizen just because they are born here if thier parents are not citizens, am I for the referendum?


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    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by BEAT
    so because I feel that they should not be considered a citizen just because they are born here if thier parents are not citizens, am I for the referendum?
    :) Yes. Although not yet fully equipped to debate it, I fear.

    Here's a good place to start:
    www.refcom.ie
    :)


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    SoulSurgeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭SoulSurgeon


    Against the motion


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    MrPudding
    Registered Users Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Originally posted by BEAT
    is this the referendum that says you become a citizen if you have a kid in ireland and you are not yourself from ireland?


    No. It has nothing to do with the parents. The child becomes a citizen if born here, the parents do not.

    MrP


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    BEAT
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    Originally posted by seamus
    :) Yes. Although not yet fully equipped to debate it, I fear.

    Here's a good place to start:
    www.refcom.ie
    :)

    thanks for the info seamus...
    hey, George Bush isnt fully equipped to run a country but he is the President ;) whether we want him or not unfortunatley


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    bobbyjoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 798 ✭✭✭bobbyjoe


    Against


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    The Brigadier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    Happy to captain or Debate FOR the motion...


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    #19
    arcadegame2004
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭arcadegame2004


    BEAT, if you vote YES then you end the automatic right of the babies of non-nationals to Irish citizenship unless one of the parents is Irish.


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    BEAT
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    Originally posted by arcadegame2004
    BEAT, if you vote YES then you end the automatic right of the babies of non-nationals to Irish citizenship unless one of the parents is Irish.

    Thank you, then I would vote yes and be glad to debate the topic.


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    #21
    gom
    Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭gom


    Graham Ó Maonaigh

    I'm Against the motion as proposed


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    #22
    Hobbes
    Registered Users Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Simon O'Doherty and against the motion.
    Originally posted by arcadegame2004
    I want to debate for the "Yes" side.

    Please let him do this, as Arcadegame is a Master Debater.


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    #23
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Hobbes and Beat selected as captains. Please pick your teams and I'll be in touch with you today via PM to give you detailed instructions (its your job to keep your team informed and organised but we provide a forum for each side to assist this.

    The debate begins one week from today (Monday 7th) and will run until the 11th (the date of the election/referendum). I'll allow one new post a day and one reply to another post (either sides' post) each day. This will be a 5 day debate.

    DeV.


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    #24
    MadsL
    Registered Users Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Hat > Ring

    Against the motion, natch.


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    #25
    BEAT
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    I have chosen The Brigadier as my 1st Leiutenant and need a volunteer as my second...please PM me and I will reply to let you know if you have been chosen.

    Thanks


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    BEAT
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    well today I have chosen my 2nd lieutenant as Arcadegame2004.
    Debating to begin on Monday the 7th.


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