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Partial Derivatives

  • 19-05-2004 7:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭


    Need a hand with the explanation of this. Sorry about the threads, it's exam time. Anyway here's the question.

    Find all the first order and second order partial derivatives for f(x, y) = sin(xy)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭silverside


    you missed the 2 mixed partial derivatives
    :D , which are equal (function is twice ctsly diff'able)

    d2f/dydx = d2f/dxdy = cos xy - (xy sin xy)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    lets say
    df/du = df/dx + df/dy

    then what would the answer to

    d2f/du2 = ?


    How do you mess around with these things to get what you want?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭silverside


    d2f/du2 = (d/du) of (df/du). so basically differentiate each term in the expression of df/du again. Sorry if this is not clear - you may need to look at your notes and/or an analysis book for further explantaion / examples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    Ok but I don't have the derivatives of them.

    If I want to get it in terms of df/du, df/dx, df/dy etc.

    How do I do that d'ya reckon?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    Apologies I wan't giving enough information. I worked it out now.

    Assuming f is a continious function then:

    since df/du = df/dx + df/dy

    then also as you said

    d2f/du2 = d/du (df/dx + df/dy)

    and since

    d/du = d/dx + d/dy

    The next line is:

    d2f/du2 = (d/dx + d/dy) (df/dx + df/dy)

    which when done out boils down to:

    d2f/du2 = d2f/dx2 + d2f/dxdy +d2f/dydx + d2f/dx2


    That's what I was looking for, but thanks, ya sent me on the right road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Dave


    Cheers lads. The exam isn't on till friday, and that question is worth 4% to me.


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