Yet Another "Is 0k the same as 'undefined'?" thread

spongebob

Originally posted by Ripwave
The question isn't whether 0k and undefined are the same - it's whether Comreg have set a USO of 0k or not. And they quite plainly haven't, because if they had, you'd be able to quote it.

They can hardly quote anything where anything > 0k either Ripwave, otherwise this thread woulda been stillborn N'est ce pas ?

It still doens't defined "functional internet access", and seems to assume that pair gains are the only source of internet access problems.

Some regulator they are all right. General neglect of the Access Network to pay Honest Dave his €6m bonus for Asset Stripping is a more apt description.

The eircom document referred to (http://www.eircom.ie/bveircom/pdf/USO_statement_270404.pdf) doesn't mention the internet at all.

With the full editorial approval of Comreg ...and nor does it mention Fax. The USO does not mention Fax because the assumption in the EU is that if the line can handle a decent full duplex data rate it can also handle a much lower half duplex baud rate for Fax. Do remember that some 30,000 Fax customers of Eircom lost their entitlement to a decent basic (very) service quality last July as well.

The EU reckoned without the gobdaws in Comreg when they worded that one. The next USO must go beyond a mandatory EU wide "Functional Internet Access" with something like "Functional Internet Access Including In All Parts of Ireland and the Island Territories that are not joined to the Mainland and those that could be joined at the maximum ebb of a spring tide but are Normally not Joined thereto and yes that means YOU MUST mandate this Comreg " ..Even then

Comreg says that discussions with eircom are ongoing, and that details will be published on their website when the issue has been resolved. I just wish they'd refuse to approve any increase eircom requests until these issues are resolved!

Eircom were supposed to submit the key metrics on the Access Network degredation by the 24th of October last year, it is a mandatory provision of the USO published exactly 3 months before. See the appendices to the USO, some 8-10 reports to be submitted in full.

Comreg only published the update you linked some 6 months after the Metrics were due to be submitted. Today marks 10 Months after the USO was published BUT it is still UTTERLY meaningless and a gross deriliction by Comreg of their Duty under EU law.

Comreg have had the information for 7 months now and still refuse to set a base standard of any kind, even the 2.4k FD 9.6k we once had but which was abolished 10 months ago.

0 Effect and 0 Effective Regulation and 0 Regard for the 1.6M Analogue Line Customers = 0K Ripwave.

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Ripwave

Originally posted by Muck
[BComreg have had the information for 7 months now and still refuse to set a base standard of any kind, even the 2.4k FD 9.6k we once had but which was abolished 10 months ago. [/B]

If they have "refused to set a base standard of any kind" why have you claimed that they did set one?

spongebob

God he can bang on . Sing this in the car at the Red Cow tailback willya. Pick a spice girl tune.

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Ripwave

Originally posted by Muck
God he can bang on

You can indeed, Muck. You keep trying to argue with stuff that I haven't said, while refusing to acknowledge that you've changed your own story (repeatedly).

This all started back when I corrected your assertion that Comreg has defined the USO for data as 0K. You've now recanted on that little canard, but you're now banging on about 0 being nothing. Why? What exactly are you trying to prove?