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Eircoms Preliminary Financial Results 04

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  • 01-06-2004 8:27am
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    Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭


    Eircoms, preliminary Financial results for this year are out a PDF is available at the investor relations website.

    http://investorrelations.eircom.net/pdf/eircom_preliminary_results_2004.pdf

    Operating Profit is up 39%

    DSL customers exceed 38,000

    Yet turnover is down 3%

    Edit: I've just read all 48 pages of the report, it makes interesting reading although not being into finance its a bit hard to understand although to me it looks like they have a lot of debt, plus they are losing small percentages in their voice communications and data sectors, but the report does mention that the increase in fixed line rental has helped with the profits....although from my point of view to me it looks like they are trying to gloss over their failings.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭BigEejit


    turnover down 3%, hopefully that will ring alarm bells with the institutional investors.... the increase in operating profit shows that they are really letting the infrastructure fall to bits and that they are shafting the customer at every chance .... but as has been posted by Muck on another Eircom shares thread, the dumbass pension managers are still buying into this (for one reason or another, mostly "I'll scratch your back........" kind of stuff I think)


  • Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Cryos


    also note that the operating costs of eircom went down 2% "due primarily to reduced pay costs" then note at the bottom of the page

    Year-end headcount 7,943 at March 2004, down from 8,547 at March 2003.

    That looks like reduced pay costs alright more like reduced working staff.

    Here is where its starting to hurt them:

    Turnover down 3% due primarily to loss of low margin transit traffic and discontinued businesses.

    Business are starting to go to other voice and data providers and eircom are loosing out big time.

    Key ratios
    2004 2003
    Gross margin 75% 70%
    EBITDA margin 36% 32%
    Adjusted EBITDA margin 37% 33%
    Operating margin 7% 5%

    Seems a bit strange seing as the turnover etc.. went down...

    ive read the whole thing

    Basicaly if you read threw it all (yes alll of the pages) you will soon realise that people are starting to use other companys and this is reflected in decreased net profits and turnover rates.

    When are the Velencia Consortium selling off €ircon?


  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭nahdoic


    So despite 3 increases in phone line rental the total sales were still down 54,000,0000 from last year.

    Here's my favourite.

    Dividends paid 2004: 428,000,000
    Dividends paid 2003: 22,000,000

    Nice.

    And a total debt of 2,264,000,000 (including a bank overdraft of 1,000,000 - nice).

    Total spent servicing loans 2003: 134,000,000
    Total spent servicing loans 2004: 208,000,000

    Nice one. Let's just riddle this company with long term debt so we could get our juicy divident payments. Let's not worry about paying back any of the debt that was due this year. Instead let's just refinance it. And let others worry about it in a few years time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    It should be a criminal offense to take that much money - what am I saying, ANY money - out of a company when it's riddled with debt like that.

    adam


  • Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Cryos


    it should be, i think it is an offence of some sort isnt it?

    from doing accounting it was not fisable for eircom to give their shareholders an increase as they according to all the p&l accoutns and ballance sheets will expirence increased bad liquidiity.

    An divident increase of even x2 would be unexplainable given the companys debt, let alone an increase x16/17 (just an guess).

    Someone will have to take them to some form of court for that sort of practice


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The recent float cost about €100 million in fees.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    Originally posted by dahamsta
    It should be a criminal offense to take that much money - what am I saying, ANY money - out of a company when it's riddled with debt like that.

    adam

    Hmmm, thats an idea.

    If one were to buy the one single Eircom share at c.€1.44 + c.€25 trading fee one could then complain about the antics of ones Board to the Office of the Director Of Corporate Enforcement .

    M


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Heh, my misspelling was rather appropriate there, n'est ce pas? :)

    adam


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    You mean you spelt offence worng!

    Mike.


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