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Books that make you go "Yuck !!"

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  • 01-06-2004 10:53am
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    Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭


    Ever read a book where you actually have to put it down because you know that something terrible is about to happen or something gross is about to come up in the next few lines ??

    Mine would have to be Iain Banks "The Wasp Factory"

    The bit where the brother is working in the hospital and he finds a kid whos brain is being eaten by maggots............

    If you have ever read this book you will know what I mean.... Gross....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    Haha yea...I have to say the wasp factory....I thought of that straight away with i saw the topic....Only book to ever disgust me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,339 ✭✭✭✭LoLth


    Yo mamma,

    Dont use the silver colour way of hiding spoilers just use the [ s poiler] and [ / spoiler] tags instead (without the spaces.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭eth0_


    hah I was going to say 'The wasp factory' too :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Yo Mamma


    Cheers, I was wondering how to do that.......

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭yossarin


    wasp factory was fine - sure its the sort of thing one thinks about most days anyway.

    american pyscho was messed up though. I read a bit of it in a book store and had to put it down


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭gogo


    Does the Beth story line in Little Women count?

    Friends "Put it into the freezer Joey", was exactly how i felt years ago reading it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    has anybody actually read american psycho...

    you really have to wonder how someone can write some of the things in that without being a little f*cked up themselves...

    I was gonna put in some spoiler stuff but i got half way through and realised its too sick

    edit only saw yossarin thing now...sorry


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    Originally posted by yossarin

    american pyscho was messed up though. I read a bit of it in a book store and had to put it down

    agreed.
    there's one part where
    he describes in detail how he kills a bum, he sticks his knife into his eye and then starts randomly stabbing him etc. Or in the park when he butchers the dog of some gay guy


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,634 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    pointless violence really no need for it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    what the hey if everyone else is doing it!!!

    this is sick, i couldnt read anymore after this:
    he nailguns a girls hands to the bed and cuts off her eyelids and tortures her

    sicksicksick


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭fizzynicenice


    I think it was a decent critique of the post-eighties preppy generation. If you have a stomach for un-relenting violence and cruelty, its a good read. Many say the violence was just to shock, and I'm not dis-agreeing,it was too much at some points. Yet, the idea is the entire book seem to escalate in violence gradually, but it is actually violent equally throughout (bear with me here) you see even how he talks to people and has sex and thinks is "violent". everything is harsh and abraisive and the physical violence is a comparason and metaphor, referring to how the modern generation thinks acts and lives violently.

    thats how it seemed to me at least, but I'm no scholar


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    Michael Crichton - Timeline (absolute disgrace)

    probably the rest of Crichton's later stuff too, haven't read his earlier - and possibly unpoisoned - books.


    I must say though, Banks AIMS to disappoint in some of his books; haven't read the wasp factory but The Business was dreadful. I foolishly thought it was actually going somewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    Originally posted by fizzynicenice
    I think it was a decent critique of the post-eighties preppy generation. If you have a stomach for un-relenting violence and cruelty, its a good read. Many say the violence was just to shock, and I'm not dis-agreeing,it was too much at some points. Yet, the idea is the entire book seem to escalate in violence gradually, but it is actually violent equally throughout (bear with me here) you see even how he talks to people and has sex and thinks is "violent". everything is harsh and abraisive and the physical violence is a comparason and metaphor, referring to how the modern generation thinks acts and lives violently.

    thats how it seemed to me at least, but I'm no scholar

    its still a crap book... metaphors or not...

    if you enjoy reading chapters about whitney heuston and genesis interspersed with crappy unrelenting violence then i'd go ahead and read it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Originally posted by joe_chicken
    has anybody actually read american psycho...

    you really have to wonder how someone can write some of the things in that without being a little f*cked up themselves...

    I was gonna put in some spoiler stuff but i got half way through and realised its too sick

    edit only saw yossarin thing now...sorry

    In an interview Brett Easton Ellis was saying that a lot of people actually think that he is Patrick and he's justy hiding it from the rest of the world. He was saying that people act as if he should cut in between Patrick and announce that this was bad, which he thought was ridiculous since it was so obvious that it was. When they took his photo for the book, he dressed up as Patrick just to take the p*ss. While he wrote it he was actually working on wallstreet, though, so he was immersed in 80's yuppie bullsh*t, and said that he was quite angry of his surroundings.

    Same with less than zero and rules of attraction, people see this as actual autobiographies of periods of his life.

    it's very hard to say that this is good or bad. On one hand he portrays a psychopath terrificly and shows a realistic view of 80's materialistic society, on the other hand though in doing this he creates quite a boring book. When I read this I found out that I was dancing through the book's dull illustrations and anticipating the porn and violence, to be shocked basically. This aint a good thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    on the other hand though in doing this he creates quite a boring book.

    really f*cking boring....

    and then the so called "interesting bits" are so disturbed that you would want to be some sick b@stard to read them all the way through (let alone actually write them)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Originally posted by joe_chicken
    really f*cking boring....

    and then the so called "interesting bits" are so disturbed that you would want to be some sick b@stard to read them all the way through (let alone actually write them)
    Actually did you hear that there was this guy who tortured and killed children that they house raided and guess what they found on his bedside locker... American psycho. In the courts they described this book as his bible, and I wouldn't be surprised.

    I agree that this is a f*cking nuke for someone who was already a bit deranged and highly suggestive...........................and yet I can't even find an over 18's sticker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    The grossest book I've read is "Poupée, anale nationale" by Alina Reyes. I don't think there's an English translation of it but the title translates as "Doll, national anal".

    It's about a woman married to a far-right politician who is obsessed with cleanliness and shít, there was a scene where she cleans her anus out with oil, another where she tries to give herself an abortion and another where she kills her husband and starts pulling his intestines out and cutting them. The whole book is written phonetically the way a hyperactive child would speak French as well.

    I did enjoy this book all the same - it's very funny in places and I thought it was a good exploration of the far-right mindset and their attitudes towards women especially.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Originally posted by fizzynicenice
    I think it was a decent critique of the post-eighties preppy generation.
    It based though in 88 or 89. There never was a date given, but it was after 87, because he mentions the date remembering back.

    A lot of people didn't like the film because the violence was restrained, but hey, they can't show that stuff on a film!!!

    At one point Cronenberg was interested in doing a film version, strangely enough without the violence and sex (especially the sex, since he seems preoccupied with this theme). I personally hate Cronenberg but seeing the grittiness of dead ringers, I can say that this would have been the perfect film for him to adapt.

    Alos Leo was very interested to play Bateman, although backed down since the strong chance that it would tarnish his good boy theme that he seems to carry in his films. Personally I think that he would be perfect, that smug little face
    :mad:.



    :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭Scratch Acid


    I actually thought some of the scenes in 'Glamorama' by Bret Easton Ellis were far more disturbing than the ones in American Psycho.
    Excellent book though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    Only read the start of glamorama, his character seemed a bit too much like Bateman (with a bit of Austin Powers), and I was sick of the slow pace of it.

    I've heard though, that it actually has a progressive plot. Roger Avary, the guy who took on rules of attraction, wants to do Galmora, and Bret, who loved his version of rules of attraction is all for it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭echomadman


    no ones mentioned Irvine Welsh?
    His books are pretty full of disgusting moments.
    American psycho, for me the sickest bit was the bit
    with the rat in the pipe shoved into the womans vagina

    rules of attraction is just rubbish, not sick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    I never said rules of attraction was sick.


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,120 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Originally posted by echomadman
    no ones mentioned Irvine Welsh?
    His books are pretty full of disgusting moments.

    Yeah, that's true. Filth had a few sick moments, as did one of the stories in Ecstasy (the one involving a girl with no arms).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 947 ✭✭✭neXus9


    I read a bit in ectasy (I think) where the girlfriend was trying to get her boyfriend out of a coma by giving him a bj. :dunno:


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,065 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Filth is my favourite book an dhas some disgustingly hard to read bits..

    warning...filthy
    When hes talking about the rash on his arse and balls , he goes into GREAT detail of scratching it and regretting eating a curry the night before because...well you can guess

    or
    when he finds a young teenager with some pills , he gets her to give him a blowjob instead of arresting her ( hes a detective ) and again goes into great deatil about the flakey-ness below ewwww

    great book though and these bits are vital to the developement of the character.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 989 ✭✭✭MrNuked


    Read all Irvine Welsh's books. I thought Filth was disgusting, but liked the others.
    I also read all Iain Banks' books. I liked the Wasp Factory and found it interesting rather than unsettling or repulsive.
    Ressurection Man by Eoin McNabb I stopped reading halfway through because it disgusted me.
    Roald Dahl wrote some rather icky adult stories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    I don't like all those kind of books at all. I read a lot of war books though and some of them can be quite disturbing. Theres one called "The Forgotten Soldier"
    by Guy Sajer. Its a true story about about German Soldier on the Eastern front, and its an eye opener. Some parts are quite horrific.

    link

    Its quite a dark book and not to be read if you were feeling a little down. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭pork99


    Originally posted by RicardoSmith
    I don't like all those kind of books at all. I read a lot of war books though and some of them can be quite disturbing. Theres one called "The Forgotten Soldier"
    by Guy Sajer. Its a true story about about German Soldier on the Eastern front, and its an eye opener. Some parts are quite horrific.

    Its quite a dark book and not to be read if you were feeling a little down. :eek:


    From "Death's Men" by Dennis Winter, he quotes from the memoirs of a British Army officer in the First World War. It has a very high "yuck" factor because it actually happened.
    As you lifted a body by its arms and legs the detached themselves from the torso, and this was not the worst thing. Each body was covered inches deep with a black fur of flies, which flew up into your face, into your mouth, eyes and nostrils as you approached. The bodies crawled with maggots. There had been a disaster here. An attack by green, badly lead troops who had had too big a rum ration...against a strong position where the wire was still uncut. They hung like washing on the barbs, like scarecrows who scared no crows since they were edible. The birds disputed the bodies with us. This was a job for all ranks. No one could expect the men to handle these bodies unless the officers did their share. We stopped every now and then to vomit...the bodies had the consistency of Camembert cheese. I once fell and put my hand through the belly of a man. It was days before I got the smell out of my hands. I remember wondering if I would get blood poisoning.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,566 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Originally posted by MrNuked
    I also read all Iain Banks' books. I liked the Wasp Factory and found it interesting rather than unsettling or repulsive.
    Ressurection Man by Eoin McNabb I stopped reading halfway through because it disgusted me.
    Roald Dahl wrote some rather icky adult stories.
    Yeah read Resurection Man recently, still think the white chair in Iain's use of weapons was worse,

    Got a copy of A history of Bombing - sven lindqvist

    From section 185 (re: Solly Zuckerman)
    If the fragment passes through the body and goes out the other side, it takes much of the energy with it and kills only if essential organs are hit. If the fragment does not pass through, it transmits all of its energy into the body and the injuries are mucn more extensive. .... There was an emormous potential to be exploited here, if bombs were developed that broke up into many more fragment that moved at a higher rate of speed.
    From Section 334
    ...in Vietnam witn the much-feared "cluster bomb," the CBU-24. The bomb consists of a caister that opens in the air and spreads a large number of smaller bombs out over a large area. When these exlode , they throw off a total of 200,000 steel balls in every direction.
    When the B-52's carpet-bombed, they often dropped explosive bombs first in order to "open the structures," then napalm to burn out the contents, and finally CBU-24s to kill the people who came running to help those who were burning.

    Thinking back to the firestorms of Coventry, Hamburg, Dresden, Tokoyo etc. etc. etc. Todays cities are higher rise, have a higher weight of combustibles per square meter and back phosphorus was not as efficient (uuuggg...) as napalm, and back then shrapnel consisted of a few large pieces of metal. A B52 would carry ~45 cluster bombs

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/cluster.htm
    Submunition function reliability requirement is no less than 95 percent. With a 95 percent submunition function reliability, one CBU-58 (with 650 submunitions) could produce up to 38 unexploded submunitions. A typical B-52 dropping a full load of 45 CBU-58/CBU-71, each containing 650 submunitions, could produce an average of some 1700 unexploded sub-munitions. The numbers of submunitions that fail to properly function and the submunitions’ dispersion determine the actual density of the hazard area.

    Studies that show 40 percent of the duds on the ground are hazardous and for each encounter with an unexploded submunition there is a 13 percent probability of detonation. Thus, even though an unexploded submunition is run over, kicked, stepped on, or otherwise disturbed, and did not detonate, it is not safe. Handling the unexploded submunition may eventually result in arming and subsequent detonation.

    So after three B52 engage in a bit of rolling thunder and then the sticky petrol burning there would still be another B52 dropping the euilivant of 42,500 hand grenades.. leaving survivors trying to dodge 9 million supersonic ball bearings...

    and it's happened to real people in many countries many times..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    Theres a quite a few very yucky bits in Black Hawk Down.


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