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A Very Joycian Thread

  • 17-06-2004 12:45am
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    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Ok, so I'm nearly an hour late, who cares?

    Anyway, thought, what with it being Bloomsday and all, I should pay reference to Leopold Bloom's taste for mustard, and Joyce's brief mention of it... heres an extract from Ulysses:
    Mr. Bloom cut his sandwich into slender strips. Mr MacTrigger. Easier than the dreamy creamy stuff. His five hundred wives. Had the time of their lives.
    - Mustard, sir?
    - Thank you.
    He studded under each lifted strip yellow blobs. Their lives. I have it. It grew bigger and bigger and bigger.

    Pure genius, isn't it? Well, ok, not really, it doesn't really make sense, does it? Ah well, I just saw the word mustard and thought it was apt...

    so, err.... discuss using references to the text...

    Flogen


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Tis stream of consciousness (i.e. thoughts flitting around Bloom's head) with a bit of dialogue and description thrown in.

    What is clear though is that Bloom goes for mustard - that says a lot about his character. What do people think of his putting-mustard-in-sandwich technique?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Originally posted by simu
    Tis stream of consciousness (i.e. thoughts flitting around Bloom's head) with a bit of dialogue and description thrown in.

    What is clear though is that Bloom goes for mustard - that says a lot about his character. What do people think of his putting-mustard-in-sandwich technique?

    Oh, I know that, don't get me wrong, I meant it doesn't really make sense when you take such a small piece of such a large book and view it on its own..

    It is important, though to discuss his method of mustardisation of the sandwich, its an unusual method. Thin slices of sandwich with a blob of mustard on each piece... I would argue from this part alone that he is somewhat regimental in his eating habits, and a very neat person in general.

    Flogen


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Originally posted by flogen
    he is somewhat regimental in his eating habits, and a very neat person in general.

    I'm not sure I totally agree with you there,
    I believe it would be even more regimental and neat to completely smear the mustard into every corner of his sandwich, I would have thought studding it like that makes him come across as slightly playful


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Originally posted by Beruthiel
    I'm not sure I totally agree with you there,
    I believe it would be even more regimental and neat to completely smear the mustard into every corner of his sandwich, I would have thought studding it like that makes him come across as slightly playful

    hmm..... interesting point
    /me places hand on chin

    Perhaps, in the layout of his sandwich, and the style that he cuts it up in would suggest a rather regimental upbringing (which would reflect the very militant feeling that was everywhere in 1904 Dublin due to tensions on a national and international scale), however his rather playful blobbing of mustard rather than a neat spreading would suggest that he wants to break free of his past, to be more light hearted and spontanious.

    Flogen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,815 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    I've never read Joyce.

    And I'm not particularly pressed to do so.

    Now, Sophocles, there's an artist.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    But did Sophocles write about mustard? That is surely the mark of a great writer.


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