Royston - Gis a Job

therecklessone

Originally posted by Cork
Could you name one EU treaty that they supported?

No.

Can you explain how that means they are anti-EU? I am enthusiastic about the EU, but opposed the last two treaties. Does that make me anti-EU?

I've said this before Cork, but I'll say it again just for you (if I was speaking to you I'd say it especially slowly)...opposing current developments in the EU does not make one anti-EU. I suggest you visit the Sinn Fein website and read their Euro manifesto for 2004, or thei discussion document on Europe and the EU from 2003. Much more interesting than Fianna Fail's soundbites.

http://sinnfein.ie/ (note the multi-lingual welcome)

The relevant documents:

http://sinnfein.ie/policies/document/150 (2003 document)
http://www.sinnfein.ie/elections/manifesto/38 (2004 manifesto)

therecklessone

Fianna Fail's website lists three articles on its European policy page http://www.fiannafail.ie/new/site/policy.php4?topic=173

Article 1 is titled "Negative, contradictory opposition offer no coherent alternative", but offers no alternative itself!!! :rolleyes:

Minister Martin Cullen:

there is a very clear choice before us. On the one hand, there is a Fianna Fáil team with a constructive and forward-looking programme. The alternative is a mish-mash of contradictory and negative agendas. I believe that the Irish people will vote to keep Ireland strong.

We would Martin, if we knew what your policies were...


Article 2 is titled "McCreevy Rejects Corporation Tax harmonisation proposals". Now, far be it from me to suggest that a party who opposed possible developments in the EU should have its pro-EU credentials called into question...


Article 3, titled "Boost for Ireland in US inward investment underlines need to keep taxe[sic]" repeat the usual guff from FF in their attempts to claim credit for economic success (funny the way they don't take the blame when it all goes wrong).

Is that the best that FF can do? Will we only get an inkling of their broader policy when there's an election to be lost? (http://www.fiannafail.ie/new/site/downloads/EUROPEANMANIFESTO.pdf). Does it suit FF to keep things deliberately vague?

flogen

cork, you're still tooting the historical horn there.

Albert has had nothing to do with FF for some time, deal with it. OK, so he brought in those funds, and lets just assume they would not have happened with another party in government, it still doesnt tell me much about FF2004... stop telling us what has been done by others as evidence that Brady was a good candidate. Your like that FF local I had knocking, he listen off things that are being done in the area already, and said he hoped I'd vote for him, without even asking what I'd like done, or telling me what he plans to do himself... must get my hands on FF's 'how to be a politician' book, must have a list of past achievments for you to dig up when cornered with questions like 'what are your policies?'

Flogen

therecklessone

Originally posted by Cork
No, the Cohesion funds were one of Alberts ideas. Together with Spain and Potugal - these funds came into existnce before monetary union.

No answer from Cork on the numerous points I've raised, so I'd like him to clear up this one. Are you claiming that EU (and EEC) Cohesion Funds were introduced by Albert Reynolds?

ArphaRima

The Mayor of Casterbridge.

That is all.

sceptre

Originally posted by fluffer
The Mayor of Casterbridge.

That is all.

Classic. He'll need a few years though.