Portugal v England (scores)

mike65

Originally posted by pogcica
idiot dont you think thats what i meant



someones not a happy camper

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=1721325#post1721325

Read again! (sory for the language)

Mike.

cournioni

He can flap all he wants. It was still a foul.

mike65

Originally posted by gandalf
pogcica no personal insults, read the charter !!!! If I ban you I will ban your 2 sponsors as well !!!

You'll have to ban me too as I said W*anker! :ninja:

Mike.

eirebhoy

Originally posted by muffen
The team that scores the most goals wins.

Who we, or the referee even, thinks deserves to win does not matter... the team that scores the most goals go through.

That disallowed goal, and even taking the free kick from the wrong spot that quickly, was very bad by the referee... what he did was wrong... england should have gone through because in the end, they scored more goals!

I am fully supporting England here... and I feel terrible for them ... doesn't matter how they played... its only the goals that count.. except when the referee is a [insert bad word here] seeing things that aren't there...

Come on. The team that wins the European champions are supposed to be the best team in the competition. If a team's performance is 2nd best in every match they don't deserve to win it.

gandalf

Hmm I thought you were calling Garth Crooks a wanker which is perfectly acceptable. Well consider yourself warned too !!

StickyMcGinty

selective eyesight is most of your problem...

terry had his hands ALL OVER the portugese all night, and that goal decision was COPRRECT, terry clearly had his arm on the goalie, which was intent to foul, which the free was given for!!

The english are SORE LOOSERS, and BAD WINNERS thats why nobody likes em.

if england had got a goal in the last minute, its them who would have robbed portugal of the game.... portugal were on top all night.

i hate ian wright for england games, and that garth lad!

if you are in the studio, you are a journalist and suppost to have a kind of objective view of the game being broadcast!! terrible coverage by BBC, but RTE were good.

thats my 2 cent anyway.... still angry at the coverage though from BBC

Where was the replay of ronaldos "goal"??

gandalf

LOL VinnyL try and watch RTE when Ireland are playing and you will see objective :rolleyes:

As for Sore Losers I think they will have to make alot more effort at whinging to beat the Italians.

KdjaCL

Has anyone seen if the Porutguese shot that went near the line crossed it or not? Have seen no replays so not sure.

Ian Wright cried , nice touch.

And less of the insults lads its just not right for this forum


Kdjac

thejollyrodger

Rui Costa's goal was brilliant.. brilliantly hit, no chance for James.

Figo looks like an old man, he's passed it and he shouldnt have walked off to touch like that.

eirebhoy

RTE are the most pessimistic crowd of shíts whenever Ireland are playing. I've never heard Dunphy predict an Ireland win against a top side and he'd even go as far as to bet against Ireland.

mike65

Figo's a disgrace to his team really, such a primmadonna.

Mike.

muffen

Originally posted by eirebhoy
Come on. The team that wins the European champions are supposed to be the best team in the competition. If a team's performance is 2nd best in every match they don't deserve to win it.

Best at what, holding the ball, passing it around, getting it close to goal?

No, you should be the best at SCORING goals.. in the end, nothing else matters.

In any case, if you wanted this to really show the best team in europe, everyone should play everyone 10 times, not decide it in a penalty shoutout.

Most goals wins, this much I don't even think is debateble...
What is though, is that goal by England. I think it was in and the referee was wrong.

cournioni

I'd say he's feeling sorry he didn't say around for a while now. Good enough for him. He's not good enough to be in that Portugal team anyway.

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by VinnyL
selective eyesight is most of your problem...

terry had his hands ALL OVER the portugese all night, and that goal decision was COPRRECT, terry clearly had his arm on the goalie, which was intent to foul, which the free was given for!!

Intent to foul? He never took his eyes off the ball. He had a flailing arm out, the keeper wasn't anywhere near stopping Campbell from heading that in.

The english are SORE LOOSERS, and BAD WINNERS thats why nobody likes em.

Great generalisation. The fans they interviewed on SkySports News just now were anything but sore losers.

if england had got a goal in the last minute, its them who would have robbed portugal of the game.... portugal were on top all night.

... because Portugal put the ball in the net more times than England? wait...

if you are in the studio, you are a journalist and suppost to have a kind of objective view of the game being broadcast!! terrible coverage by BBC, but RTE were good.

thats my 2 cent anyway.... still angry at the coverage though from BBC

Where was the replay of ronaldos "goal"??

Seemed to get forgotten as there was no break in play... RTE never showed it either. The fnckin westbrit bastrads, up the ra!!!!!

arf.

Harry2001

Originally posted by thejollyrodger
Rui Costa's goal was brilliant.. brilliantly hit, no chance for James.

Figo looks like an old man, he's passed it and he shouldnt have walked off to touch like that.

Great hit alright!

England were poor after the first 10-15 minutes (why sit back so ****ing far)

The players looked jaded and Beckham was a big letdown, i don't ever want to see him take a penalty for England again

Portugal played well and should get to the final now

muffen

Portugal played well and should get to the final now

Oh no.. talk about this game best you want, but Sweden are stopping Portugal, so there will be no Portugal in any final!

gandalf

Well the best England players of the game were Cole & Campbell which from my point of view as a Gooner bodes well for the new season.

Ashley especially had the measure of Christiano Legover for most of the game

cournioni

Originally posted by kaids
He never took his eyes off the ball. He had a flailing arm out, the keeper wasn't anywhere near stopping Campbell from heading that in.

Just because he had his eyes on the ball doesn't mean it is not a free kick. Can you imagine someone who has put in a sliding tackle totally missing the ball, taking the man but not giving away a free kick because you had your eyes on the ball?

He didn't get the ball. You can look at the ball all you like but you have to get to it. And the fact is that he prevented Ricardo from getting to the ball.

KdjaCL

Originally posted by gandalf
If I ban you I will ban your 2 sponsors as well !!!

me hugs Gandalf


kdjac

Harry2001

Originally posted by gandalf
Well the best England players of the game were Cole & Campbell which from my point of view as a Gooner bodes well for the new season.

Ashley especially had the measure of Christiano Legover for most of the game

Cole really impressed me tonight, his best game for England by far and Campbell as always was superb

cournioni

I'm just after hearing ITV's commentary of the incident and they didn't make half as much of it. Fair play to them. They know the correct decision was given.

StickyMcGinty

kaids -

i can hit someone with my eyes closed no problem, just cause someone doesnt look at someone before illegally using their arms doesnt mean it doesnt count! wise up man!

in you look at someone, and elbow them, then its deliberate and your off, if you dont look at someone, and elbow them, then your off too!!

and as far as your "generalisation" comments go, just look at the last 4 tournaments they'veve been in!!

Great generalisation. The fans they interviewed on SkySports News just now were anything but sore losers

cause all the rioters, and sore loosers are DYING to be on sky, muppet!

wait for the a wa wa ,rattle outta the pram reports in the papers all week!

and sore loosers - garth crooks just proved my point for me - "12 men, and one was swiss", dont make me laugh!

Pepe LeFrits

No it didn't. Campbell was just about to the head the ball when Terry's arm first came into contact with Ricardo, who was still on the ground. He was stumbling about the place and was never going to get anywhere near it.

mike65

Originally posted by gandalf
Well the best England players of the game were Cole & Campbell which from my point of view as a Gooner bodes well for the new season.

Ashley especially had the measure of Christiano Legover for most of the game

I was most impressed with Cole bering in mind his reputation for rash moments. He seemed to be the only one not to falter badly late on. Hargreves was falling about the place like he'd run a marathon.

Mike.

cournioni

He would have caught the ball if Terry wasn't holding him kaids. Take your blinkers off.

StickyMcGinty

Originally posted by kaids
He was stumbling about the place and was never going to get anywhere near it.

wow,you can see in to the future now aswell!?!?

the whistle was blown BEFORE campbell made contact with the ball so obviously terry fouled him before hand. terry was a thug all night anyway!!

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by VinnyL
cause all the rioters, and sore loosers are DYING to be on sky, muppet!

Didn't you know personal abuse isn't allowed here?

How does Garth Crooks's question prove your point? Is he more than one person? A siamese twin but with only head and body? I don't get it. Anyway, I have to go make sure my English brother-in-law isn't rioting, because apparently that's what English people do.

gandalf

I have never rated Hargreaves at all mike he strikes me as too lightweight.

Infact I say it says an awful lot about the England midfield and manager when they have Hargreaves and Phil Neville on the field with Joe Cole who is tricky, full of running and skillful on the bench.

Beckham was anonymous for most of the game as was Lampard (apart from the goal). Shame about Rooney when he went off I knew they would struggle.

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
He would have caught the ball if Terry wasn't holding him kaids. Take your blinkers off.

lol... I admit I am biased towards Terry, because I love Chelsea so much. You of course are not blinkered at all, having displayed your unbiased stance towards the English on this thread so clearly.

StickyMcGinty

Originally posted by kaids
English brother-in-law isn't rioting, because apparently that's what English people do.

yea thats what i meant alright. why dont you take your english jersey off that you borrowed from your bro-in-law and look at the game fairly!!

garth crooks asked the English national team manager that question, garth crooks wages are payed by the brittish licence fee payer.. i'd say that he represents them through the STATE broadcaster!

qwertyup

Extremely entertaining game, even if England did look somewhat static after Rooney's departure. Some fantastic goals, a touch of controversy, and a keeper beating his opposite number to clinch the match.

Couldn't have asked for much more, even if I was hoping to see England progress further.

Also, some of you could really do with living in England for a while. You'd learn pretty quick to be less aggressive and hypocritical with regards to supporting England (assuming its not Ireland they're up against). You might also realise what immature assholes you've been to boot.

KdjaCL

They sat back again and were punished for it, Cole was superb and this was against a rampant Ronaldo who was also superb, just tried to win a free kick too many methinks.

This and Czech Holland contenders for best match.

kdjac

Harry2001

Originally posted by kaids
I have to go make sure my English brother-in-law isn't rioting, because apparently that's what English people do.

I'm just off to start my nightly riot as we speak

cournioni

Originally posted by kaids
You of course are not blinkered at all, having displayed your unbiased stance towards the English on this thread so clearly.

FFS! :rolleyes:

I'm sorry for defending my fellow goalkeepers. :rolleyes:

mike65

Originally posted by Harry2001


I'm just off to start my nightly riot as we speak

Me too!

Mike.

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by gandalf
I have never rated Hargreaves at all mike he strikes me as too lightweight.

Infact I say it says an awful lot about the England midfield and manager when they have Hargreaves and Phil Neville on the field with Joe Cole who is tricky, full of running and skillful on the bench.

Beckham was anonymous for most of the game as was Lampard (apart from the goal). Shame about Rooney when he went off I knew they would struggle.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing with regards to Hargreaves, he plays for Bayern Munich? Coming on as a sub, he looked like he'd been playing the entire match. Every time he got the ball he just instantly hoofed it up the pitch to Carvalho, when what England desperately needed was to keep the ball and relieve the pressure on the defence.

Costa's goal was indeed a cracker, and I'll be interested to see if he gets back into the team ahead of Deco in the semis... that's twice he has come of the bench and impressed, 2 goals for him now.

eirebhoy

Originally posted by qwertyup
Also, some of you could really do with living in England for a while. You'd learn pretty quick to be less aggressive and hypocritical with regards to supporting England (assuming its not Ireland they're up against). You might also realise what immature assholes you've been to boot.

My father lived in England for half his life and probably came back more anti-English (not against the people, just in sport).

BTW, It looks like Rooney will miss the start of next season as he has a broken bone in his foot. He's a strong lad if he wanted to play on and hardly limped with a broken bone in his foot.:D

qwertyup

Just like to add that Ronaldo was pretty impressive tonight. If he keeps the step-overs to a tolerable number, and concetrates on his final ball, he's a damn handy player.

I hope he continues in this vein next season in the Premiership.

Football365 has a headline up to the effect that Rooney's broken his metatarsal, and is out for months. David Moyes is not going to be a happy camper come tomorrow.

gandalf

Actually Moyes will probably be happy about that. Rooney won't be transferred anywhere injured.

Pepe LeFrits

Originally posted by mike65
I was most impressed with Cole bering in mind his reputation for rash moments. He seemed to be the only one not to falter badly late on.

Phil Neville took his position at the end, he was all run out - after Portugal made it 2-1, there was a Portugal breakaway, Ronaldo raced into open space and Cole couldn't even muster a jog after him. His stamina for a half-pint was impressive nonetheless. I think Cole and Campbell were the two best players out there tonight, but Terry and Neville were excellent also... Portugal's gameplan seemed to be to try and get at the Arsenal side of the defence, the other side didn't have as much of a chance to impress.

Makaveli

Entertaining match, not half as entertaining as this thread though.

I'm going to echo Talla, in saying that it was a 50-50 challenge for that ball, and in most cases the benefit of the doubt goes to the keeper. Terry clearly had his arm across Ricardo.

Portugal deserved the win. They were the better side throughout the match and other than Owen's goal (which he finished superbly) and the disallowed goal, they weren't troubled in normal time. Even in extra time England were lacking.

Rui Costa's goal was a cracker. Some finish on that and nothing more than Portugal deserved.

I'm glad the Portugese are through, I like the team and with Spain gone they were my second favourites. Also, that's some more pools points.

cournioni

Postiga's penalty was unbelievable by the way...

Makaveli

Yeah, that fellah isn't lacking confidence.

Forgot to mention Ronaldo in my last post. Impressive. The amount of energy he has is unreal.

Cole did a great job against him though. Gave him very little.
Campbell was a rock aswell.

eyerer

i have to agree that "football won" watching england is terrible, they tend to get a goal against the play and sit with "2 banks of 8" - 8 defenders and a couple to hoof it too
portugal deserved the win, the problem is the english press now have an excuse and will go on and on about the disallowed goal, which i instinctly thought was a foul

anyone watching rte hear houghton when portugal scored in extra time, it was seriously funny, he got a little worked up
but at least he sounded enthusiastic
also i seriously think the rte commentators listen to the english commentators (as they obviously just broadcast the english feed, anyone else see des lynam on rte?) the bbc commentators were talking about something and shortly after the rte commentators use the exact same phrase, always have the same opinion and of course have the same bias to the english as they do

also can't stand listening to ray houghton whining about the players, oh he should've done this or that, theres no good commentary

anyway, czechs to win the whole thing

Dewey

What a game. I feel sorry for England going out on Penos but they didnt deserve to win the match.

Owen took his goal great, it was a gift for Portugal. Again i thought Rooney looked good but it was a huge blow when it got injuried after 27 minutes.
At times Figo was really poor but i was surprised to see him go off as it could of been his last game for Portugal but by walking around the net instead of running over was a disgrace.

Once again England take a 1-0 lead and want to defend for the rest of the match. Why?? England have enough quailty to win the match with Owen, Gerrard, Lampard,Scholes, but they just defended and i said if they keep doing that they will be punished.

England's Midfeild was all over the place, Lampard didnt do anything apart from the goal and Beckham.......well Becks was shown for what he really is. I dont belive he is a world class player and he disapeared for most of the match. As was Gerrard.

Costa's goal i think will be goal of the tourament, he went on a great run and it was brilliant but England did well to get back in it. England goal should of been allowed and the ref was poor there but that was it.

Another Becks peno another UFO is the sky's. there was something wrong with the Peno spot but Portugal had to take them aswell.
What did you think of Postiga's Peno? the cheeky B@stard. cant belive he did that.

Portugal deserved it and England were poor apart from Campbell and Cole who were brilliant.

eirebhoy

OK, i've just taped the disallowed goal from ITV and I'm nearly certain (from what I know of the rules anyway) it was correctly disallowed and it was a good call by the ref. Even the pundits on ITV said at first glance it looks a goal but when you inspect it you can see why the ref gave the free kick (they didn't actually admit it wasn't a goal but that's what to be expected). I took a few pic's but they are poor quality because they were taken from a Nokia 6600 and the TV reception wasn't the best.

http://homepage.eircom.net/~gearoidw01/Image161.jpg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~gearoidw01/Image162.jpg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~gearoidw01/Image163.jpg

I couldn't get a pic of the ball just a bit further on in the clip because the video pauses a couple of seconds too late but I'll try my best. Anyway, the keeper's glove was inches away from the ball and if Terry's arm wasn't on his shoulder he probably would have got it. The ref couldn't be sure whether Ricardo would have got to it or not because he can't tell the future so he was completely in the right to disallow it.

BTW from the pics I posted you'd think the keeper would have no chance of getting to the ball but, believe me, he was inches away.

Bungalow Bill

Have to say I'm glad Portugal are through, it is silly the way England play when ahead. They just boot it forward for Owen to chase after and lose it quite fast. Anyone any idea what the odds for the Czech's winning the tourny outright are?

eirebhoy

Originally posted by Bungalow Bill
Anyone any idea what the odds for the Czech's winning the tourny outright are?

France 9 - 4
Portugal 9 - 4
Holland 5 - 1
Czech Rep 5 - 1
Sweden 12 - 1
Denmark 14 - 1
Greece 40 - 1

Dewey

I know Terrys arm is on the keeper but it was hard of England. If it was a push or a punch at him then i would understand but i belive Terry went for the ball and his arm happened to by on the keepers shoulder.

eirebhoy

It doesn't matter whether Terry went for the ball. Players go for the ball in 95% of tackles but still get booked or red carded.