Best Strikeforce in the Premiership

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Benetiz has stated that Liverpool have the best strikeforce in the premiership
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N145418040720-1559.htm

Would people agree? I think that with tha acquisition of Cisse they certainly have the most potential. Owen is arguably Englands most important striker at the moment and has a great chance of being England highest scorer of all time, Baros always had potential and was the top scorer in euro2004, Cisse was the top scorer in the French League last year and one of the hottest young prospects in Europe and Pongolle was the top scorer at the world youth championships and is full of potential. It is interesting that Benetiz did not mention Diouf.

I am wondering what other people think, Man Utd (Smith, Van Nistelrooy,Saha), Villa (Angel, Vassell,those young Moores), Chelsea (Mutu, Drogba,Gudjohnsen,Kezman), Newcastle (Shearer, Kluivert?, Bellamy) and even Tottenham have good strikeforces!

What do people think?

I did not post a poll as someone would be upset that I did not include their team if I did not post 20 possible teams. I am very aware that recently some threads may hev descended into "such and scuh is cr*p" or "he is a grasshole", so please none of this!

GuanYin

Saha and Van Nist any day of thr week, and perhaps twice on a Sunday.

Failing that, Shearer and Bellamy or Forssell and Morrisson (I kid you not, Forssell insists his scoring ways are down to his partnership with Morrssion).

mr_angry

Who needs a partnership when you've got Henry?

Bannor

Arsenal: Henry/Bergkamp/Reyes/Aliadiere
Man Utd: Saha/Van Nistelrooy/Smith/Forlan
Newcastle: Shearer/Bellamy/Ameobi/Kluivert
Liverpool: Owen/Baros/Pongolle/Cisse
Chelsea: Gudjohnsen/Mutu/Kezman/Drogba

In terms of proven Premiership performance that is the order I would rank them.

If Rooney's move to Man Utd goes ahead and they hold on to Van Nistelrooy then they will have the best strike force in the Premiership.

In terms of potential, Liverpool have a very young strike force Michael 'past it' Owen is only 24 and he's the oldest of the strikers at the club. If he can strike up a partnership with the others this year then I would agree with Benitez but until then it's Arsenal/Man Utd.

Villain

Originally posted by Bannor
Arsenal: Henry/Bergkamp/Reyes/Aliadiere
Man Utd: Saha/Van Nistelrooy/Smith/Forlan
Newcastle: Shearer/Bellamy/Ameobi/Kluivert
Liverpool: Owen/Baros/Pongolle/Cisse
Chelsea: Gudjohnsen/Mutu/Kezman/Drogba

In terms of proven Premiership performance that is the order I would rank them.

If Rooney's move to Man Utd goes ahead and they hold on to Van Nistelrooy then they will have the best strike force in the Premiership.

In terms of potential, Liverpool have a very young strike force Michael 'past it' Owen is only 24 and he's the oldest of the strikers at the club. If he can strike up a partnership with the others this year then I would agree with Benitez but until then it's Arsenal/Man Utd.

WOO there

Angel-Vassell-Cole-S & L Moore are a great set of strikers

mike65

Sigh! Its not the players that matter its the way they're used. So all bets are off for now.

Mike.

p.pete

Originally posted by Bannor
Arsenal: Henry/Bergkamp/Reyes/Aliadiere
Man Utd: Saha/Van Nistelrooy/Smith/Forlan
Newcastle: Shearer/Bellamy/Ameobi/Kluivert
Liverpool: Owen/Baros/Pongolle/Cisse
Chelsea: Gudjohnsen/Mutu/Kezman/Drogba

In terms of proven Premiership performance that is the order I would rank them.

In terms of proven you can only actually rate your first 3 - bit pointless at looking at what's proven really.

I'm thinking Chelsea will mop up this season - they will be allowed to have a settled strikeforce and the supply will be excellent.

Henry will be 1st or 2nd top goal-scorer but the rest of Arsenals goals will be distributed among the team - so I don't rate that as a partnership, so I'd go for United second. Saha and RVN have a great chance of gelling.

I hold out great hopes for Cisse/(Owen or Baros) combination but time will tell. I'll rate them above any Newcastle partnership but no higher.

p.pete

Originally posted by mike65
Sigh! Its not the players that matter its the way they're used. So all bets are off for now.

Mike.

It's never too early to speculate:D

yom 1

Originally posted by mr_angry
Who needs a partnership when you've got Henry?

I think Arsenal have been very lucky with Henry in terms of injuries
fair enough Reyes & Aliadiere are good players with potential but they
are no Henry, & if Henry went out through injury i think Arsenal would be
seriously be lacking firepower

I hold out great hopes for Cisse/(Owen or Baros) combination but time will tell. I'll rate them above any Newcastle partnership but no higher.

I'd fully agree with that

Bannor

Originally posted by irish1
WOO there

Angel-Vassell-Cole-S & L Moore are a great set of strikers

I said proven Premiership performance

cruiserweight

Originally posted by irish1
WOO there

Angel-Vassell-Cole-S & L Moore are a great set of strikers

I didn't say great, I said good! Angel was one of the highest scorers in the premiership last year, Vassell is an England international, Cole and the Moore brothers have a lot of potential(although I think one of them is more of winger, I might be mistaken)

I can understand your suprise although seeing them compared with Liverpools strikeforce:D

Villain

LOL

Angel is a proven striker Bannor, and Vassell is not far off.

I have money on Villa finishing ahead of the Pool this cruiserweight, so your right I would be surprised to see Liverpools strikers compared to Villa's I mean going on last season Angel is better than anything Liverpool have.:D

StickyMcGinty

Originally posted by irish1
LOL


I have money on Villa finishing ahead of the Pool this cruiserweight,

typical villa fan to enjoy throwing his money away!


Cisse & Baros next year, with owen on the bench, and perhaps amoruso is he comes.

I think owen should be on the bench, houllier was afraid to do it cause of the reactions from the fans. Owen has NEVER fitted in with any partner houllier/Evans had given him, so maybe OWEN is the problem?

AngelofFire

Chelsea- Drogba,Kezman,Mutu,Gudjohnsen

Newcastle-Kluivert(enough said),Shearer, Bellamy

Man U-Van Nistelrooy,Saha,Smith,Solsjaer,Bellion

L`Pool-Cisse,Owen,Baros,

Villa-Angel,Vassel,Cole,S.moore,L.moore.

are the ones worth talking about.

p.pete

Originally posted by irish1
I have money on Villa finishing ahead of the Pool this cruiserweight,

I'm pressuming that's because a) your a Villa supporter and you fancy them to do well and b) the odds were favourable - both of which are perfectly natural:D

I'd go along with AngelofFire's assessment - forgot about Kluivert, his inclusion definitely makes Newcastle more of a threat (depending on Kluivert - if he turns up hoping just to collect his wages then maybe not).

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Originally posted by AngelofFire
Chelsea- Drogba,Kezman,Mutu,Gudjohnsen

Newcastle-Kluivert(enough said),Shearer, Bellamy

Man U-Van Nistelrooy,Saha,Smith,Solsjaer,Bellion

L`Pool-Cisse,Owen,Baros,

Villa-Angel,Vassel,Cole,S.moore,L.moore.

are the ones worth talking about.

You forgot about Pongolle for Liverpool, top scorer at the youth championships and still 19!

Spurs have a pretty good strikeforce Keane, Kanoute and Defoe and Doherty(okay forget the last one)

Dont be at yourself

I think everybody is being a bit premature with regards Cisse. He hasn't been tested outside the french league, apart from a handful of UEFA cup matches. If he can carry his form into the premiership, I think Baros would play well off him, with Owen being quite effective off the bench towards the end of the game, seeing as he's about pace and direct balls.

The forward quality amongst the top 7 or 8 teams in the league is quite staggering though, and should ensure quite a spectacle this season!

eirebhoy

Originally posted by cruiserweight
You forgot about Pongolle for Liverpool, top scorer at the youth championships and still 19!

If you were to include Pongolle you'd have to include Bellion and Milner. Pongolle has done nothing at the top level yet.

StickyMcGinty

Originally posted by eirebhoy
If you were to include Pongolle you'd have to include Bellion and Milner. Pongolle has done nothing at the top level yet.

you didn't see him playing last season then did ye?

Man utd game, to name one, played a stormer and should have had a penalty!

this boy is gonna be seriously good, like millner, but Bellion had, will and can do nothing!

eirebhoy

Originally posted by VinnyL
you didn't see him playing last season then did ye?

He started 3 league games last season. Potential is all.

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Originally posted by eirebhoy
He started 3 league games last season. Potential is all.

He has a lot of potential an will be given a chance this year! Benetiz has indicated that Pongolle will be one of his main strikers and could start 15-20 games, we will see then what he is like!

I think that Milner will be a big hit also at Newcastle his year, but I don't know about Bellion we will have to wait and see a little longer I suspect!

JohnnyBravo

Originally posted by AngelofFire
Chelsea- Drogba,Kezman,Mutu,Gudjohnsen

Newcastle-Kluivert(enough said),Shearer, Bellamy

Man U-Van Nistelrooy,Saha,Smith,Solsjaer,Bellion

L`Pool-Cisse,Owen,Baros,

Villa-Angel,Vassel,Cole,S.moore,L.moore.

are the ones worth talking about.

Kluivert is fat and lazy i dont think he will be great at newcastle

mayordenis

Originally posted by syke
Saha and Van Nist any day of thr week, and perhaps twice on a Sunday.

sorry but i cant agree van nist was as bad or worse than owen last season and saha is mediocre.
cisse and baros

cournioni

Originally posted by VinnyL
should have had a penalty!

:rolleyes: Tripping yourself into a player isn't a penalty

smemon

Originally posted by mayordenis
sorry but i cant agree van nist was as bad or worse than owen last season and saha is mediocre.
cisse and baros

baros couldnt get a game against heskey, thats how good he is.

Villain

Originally posted by smemon
baros couldnt get a game against heskey, thats how good he is.

in GH eyes!!!.

Heskey was sold Baros was not!!!

StickyMcGinty

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Tripping yourself into a player isn't a penalty

yea i forgot, Mr. President of thr Rio Ferdinand fan club...


everyone with 20:20 vision saw it was a penalty.

we wont know until about 10 games in which is going to be THE partnership of the year!

JohnnyBravo

viduka and jimmy

cournioni

Originally posted by JohnnyBravo
viduka and jimmy

Could well be right, but I can't see them playing together somehow. Too alike. But we'll have to see...

And VinnyL, I have perfect vision. Maybe yours is a little rose tinted? It would have been a very harsh if that had been given. He was half way down to the ground before the United player touched him. I think he was suffering from a little Heskey syndrome.

jesus_thats_gre

CLOSE THE THREAD PLEASE GOD :cool:

StickyMcGinty

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
Could well be right, but I can't see them playing together somehow. Too alike. But we'll have to see...

And VinnyL, I have perfect vision. Maybe yours is a little rose tinted? It would have been a very harsh if that had been given. He was half way down to the ground before the United player touched him. I think he was suffering from a little Heskey syndrome.

a variant of Van Nistelrooy syndrome methinks...

ANYWAY....

Yea i forgot bout jimmy & Viduka, its up to both of the mto get the finger out though, they both can be lazy at times, especially viduka

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Viduka played well for Middlesborough last night in a friendly, however how long will it be before one of them throws their toys out of the pram?

I think Viduka will be better for Boro than Hasselbaink though

Bannor

Tim Howard in an interview on Fox Sports World (U.S. channel) when asked about the stikers at Man Utd:

Ruud, Saha Smith and ROONEY are gonna be a handful for any defence

Do ye reckon he knows something?

JohnnyBravo

Nope i reckon he doesnt
Although they have let forlan go
And do need four top strikers

p.pete

Originally posted by JohnnyBravo
Although they have let forlan go

And do need four top strikers

I'm presuming these two sentences are unrelated

Boro

Originally posted by JohnnyBravo
viduka and jimmy

For what its worth i reckon that middlebrough will have a very good season - maybe even finishing in a uefa spot.

Viduka and JFH are both proven quality goalscorers and middlesbrough have a very good midfield (reinforced by the signing of Parlour) and a solid defense.

Only problem is as Pornapster said, they might have trouble gelling. Heres hoping though!

*this message was brought to you by a completely impartial observer

LegacyUser

Originally posted by Bannor
Tim Howard in an interview on Fox Sports World (U.S. channel) when asked about the stikers at Man Utd:

Ruud, Saha Smith and ROONEY are gonna be a handful for any defence

Do ye reckon he knows something?

Would he not be slated by SAF for saying something like that? I am amazed I can not find him saying this through google. Any links Bannor?

PS: Do you personally think Rooney will be at Utd next season?

The best strikeforce in my opinion is Arsenal's judging by last season. Man Utd's strikeforce does have potential, but I am not sure if I am convinced with the signing of Smith yet and judging by his past goal scoring record, taking into account he was played in midfield I am still not convinced. What is clear is he has determination and fire but I am yet to be impressed by his technique and skill.

Van Nist and Saha if both are on song will be the best strikeforce in my opinion but then again, if Reyes and Henry are on fire, I would have to go for them.

talla

Pottentially Van Nistleroy and Saha if they get the chance to gel will be the best, one of them was always injured last year. Im still convinced Smith has been brought in as Keanes long term midfield replacement.

LegacyUser

Im still convinced Smith has been brought in as Keanes long term midfield replacement.

Now that would be something special. Can you imagine it?

The Muppet

Originally posted by talla
Pottentially Van Nistleroy and Saha if they get the chance to gel will be the best, one of them was always injured last year. Im still convinced Smith has been brought in as Keanes long term midfield replacement.

He certainly has the same type of temprement as Keano but I think I read somewhere that Smith doesn't like playing in midfield even though he has done so on occasion at Leeds. That said it would make sense of why United are trying to buy another striker ie Rooney.