Bikers Pulled

Dan_B

Cops seem'd to be pulling bikers everywhere this morning around the city center.
Anyone here pulled or know what it was all about?

uberwolf

I saw that! I presumed it was because the chap I saw wasn't wearing a full face helmet. But then noticed there were 2 others pulled up as well waiting there turn

Gillo

Coppers pulling bikers..

Sorry but it's very tempting to make an immature joke.

They are more than likely doing one of their traffic blitz's, either that or near teh end of teh month and targets have to be met, and all will be fine in a few days
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ChipZilla

Saw cops in Cork with a string of bikers pulled over the other day. Looked like they were checking the cans on a couple of them, but I've never known them to bother with stuff like that before...

AidoX

Wonder that its all about, maybe the are clamping down on bikes in bus lanes which will be a pitty.

davej

I too saw a number of bikers/mopeders pulled up this morning on the N11 near Donnybrook.

Perhaps it is a bus lane thing?

davej

iMax

Saw a bunch of them pulled in fairview this morning, all from the bus lane (which is only right). The Garda wearing the leathers with a cap just had an air of the blue oyster bar about him...

BUMP!

Saw a bunch of them pulled in fairview this morning, all from the bus lane (which is only right).

Why? Its not like they're holding anyone up. Leave em off...

Dan_B

That's more or less what I thought, Pitty!

tk123

They were just asking to see tax disc and licence.;)

Sleipnir

Originally posted by BUMP!
Why? Its not like they're holding anyone up. Leave em off...

Si I can do it in a car if the bus lane is empty then? Cool.

Dan_B

It's usually people in cars that have a problem with bikes in bus lanes.
Just green eye'd monsters.
Bikes don't congest bus lanes like cars would if they used them.
Cops used to turn a blind eye to this, I have often driven past them in the bus lane and was not stopped......

Sleipnir

Actually, I'm all for allowing bikes in the bus lane; do it today Dublin City Council.
Really, I think it's a stupid law.
It's the bastards in cars who use it that annoy the bejeesus out of me.

But, bikes are not allowed in the bus lanes by law, unfortunately, so if you can break the law "because it's alright, really." then so can I.

tk123

Ahh the bus lane!! I can't help singing "Life in the bus laaaaaaaaane"(sung to the tune of Life in the fast lane) when i'm driving in one!! Ahhhhhhhh

AidoX

MAG are pushing for bikers to use bus lanes same as it is out in Oz.

The whole idea is begin tested up north at the moment for 4 months (or something like that). I read that on MAG Ireland.

I drive a car and ride a bike (not at the same time), bike is much better for getting around the city, to work etc

My only pet hate about this country is road tax!! its a rip of roads a ****e. Should be more like the UK tax system agian dont know specifics off hand but its cheaper

Luckly they dont class bikes by engine cc, ****e shouldnt have said that in case they are watching!!

iMax

Originally posted by BUMP!
Why? Its not like they're holding anyone up. Leave em off...

Because they're called bus lanes... for buses, they're not called bus and bike lanes

tk123

Originally posted by iMax
Because they're called bus lanes... for buses, they're not called bus and bike lanes

Well they're not called Bus+Taxi+Bicycle lanes and taxis and bicycles can use them!!

Dan_B

Cyclists are allowed to use them!!!
Should they be called buy and cyclist lanes?
Then they would fit in to your perfect world:D

Dan_B

damn, beat me to it!
Gotta learn how to type.

tk123

Aww sorry Dan...

RicardoSmith

Not allowing bikes in bus lanes is just plain stupid. IT would be safer for the motorbikes, and it wouldn't hold up traffic. I would also reduce bikers weaving through traffic and passing you on both sides. I wonder would it cause accidents with cyclists though. Somehow I doubt it.

Not all rules make sense. Just like 24 hr bus lanes on a route that doesn't have buses 24hr

Dan_B

Here here!

iMax

Originally posted by tk123
Well they're not called Bus+Taxi+Bicycle lanes and taxis and bicycles can use them!!

But legislation provided for public service vehicles (Buses & Taxis) to use them & bicycles as a matter of safety...

Legislation didn't allow for motorbikes to use them, therefore bikers are breaking the laws by doing so.

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
Not allowing bikes in bus lanes is just plain stupid. IT would be safer for the motorbikes, and it wouldn't hold up traffic. I would also reduce bikers weaving through traffic and passing you on both sides. I wonder would it cause accidents with cyclists though. Somehow I doubt it.

By bikers weaving through traffic & passing on both sides (both illegal BTW), I somehow doubt bikers are primarily concerned with safety...

krinDar

Originally posted by iMax

By bikers weaving through traffic & passing on both sides (both illegal BTW), I somehow doubt bikers are primarily concerned with safety...

<sarcasm> Wow, you mean, if you are on a motorcycle you are never allowed overtake someone ? </sarcasm>

The Rules of the Road documents the occasions on which you can pass vehicles on both sides. This does not become invalid for any reason.

That said if it is done in a dangerous manner you could be prosecuted for careless/dangerous driving.

As in almost everything else, there are all sorts of motorcyclists; good, bad, stupid, dangerous etc.
The problem is the bad ones stick in your mind more.

echomadman

I somehow doubt bikers are primarily concerned with safety...

?
As the most vulnerable road users we tend to be more safety conscious than most car drivers.
I think too much time in traffic jams watching bikes filter past has soured you iMax.

seamus

Originally posted by iMax
Legislation didn't allow for motorbikes to use them, therefore bikers are breaking the laws by doing so.

Legislation did allow for bikers to use them, but only when stated. The bus lane down Dawson (?) Street being the good example. Motorcyclists are allowed turn left onto college green along with the taxis, buses and cyclists.

By bikers weaving through traffic & passing on both sides (both illegal BTW), I somehow doubt bikers are primarily concerned with safety... [/B]

Because all bikers weave and overtake on the left. :rolleyes: A lot do, and give a bad name to the rest of us.
Known as filtering, overtaking on the right and driving between traffic lanes is both legal and perfectly safe when practiced sensibly.

RicardoSmith

Originally posted by iMax
But legislation provided for public service vehicles (Buses & Taxis) to use them & bicycles as a matter of safety...

Legislation didn't allow for motorbikes to use them, therefore bikers are breaking the laws by doing so.




By bikers weaving through traffic & passing on both sides (both illegal BTW), I somehow doubt bikers are primarily concerned with safety...

Personally anything that reduces, the odds of me hitting one I'm all for.

Seth Brundle

Originally posted by iMax
By bikers weaving through traffic & passing on both sides (both illegal BTW), I somehow doubt bikers are primarily concerned with safety...

When knocked down by a motorist, what is the first thing said motorist will say to the biker?
"Sorry, I didn't see you"

Most motorbike related incidents, are usually caused by a car driver not looking around them properly and subsequently pulling left or right.
Bikes would be better off being legally allowed in the bus lanes and it is stupid of our legislators not to allow this.

RicardoSmith

Originally posted by kbannon
When knocked down by a motorist, what is the first thing said motorist will say to the biker?
"Sorry, I didn't see you"

Most motorbike related incidents, are usually caused by a car driver not looking around them properly and subsequently pulling left or right.
Bikes would be better off being legally allowed in the bus lanes and it is stupid of our legislators not to allow this.

Well that might be true its impossible to watch 360 around a car all at the same time. So if you have to look both sides of the car because bikes and cyclists are passing you both sides, in the split second it take to lok one side and the other, a bike can be on top of you. Thats not making an excuse, thats just the reality of it.

ChipZilla

What, like it's a car driver's fault when someone's riding between two lanes of traffic in their blind spot?

seamus

Originally posted by ChipZilla
What, like it's a car driver's fault when someone's riding between two lanes of traffic in their blind spot?

Legally, yes.
Although it's never black and white. Both parties in any crash can learn a lesson to avoid it happening again, regardless of who's to blame.

Bikers only legally have to follow the same safety rules as other vehicles, but they really do have a duty to heir own safety to ensure that they avoid things like driving in blind spots, sudden overtaking, as well as maintaining observation for motorists who just aren't watching.

Well that might be true its impossible to watch 360 around a car all at the same time. So if you have to look both sides of the car because bikes and cyclists are passing you both sides, in the split second it take to lok one side and the other, a bike can be on top of you. Thats not making an excuse, thats just the reality of it.

Common sense would dictate that you look in the mirror on the side that you're turning to last, so that your information is as fresh as possible.
So for a left turn, look in your left side mirror, indicate, rear-view mirror, right side mirror, left side mirror, look over your left shoulder, and go. Shouldn't take more then 2-3 seconds after indicating. There should be no more than half a second between looking in your left mirror and turning. In the looking over your shoulder and then moving, should be close to instantaneous, but prepared to not go if there's something there. If you don't go, you return to the step after you indicate.

Reverse for right-hand turn.