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Going watercooling again, should i consider innovatek?

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  • 25-07-2004 11:03am
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    Registered Users Posts: 20,055 ✭✭✭✭


    Ive watercooled a few times before and i always went with the danger den maze 1/2" big eheim solution, worked fine but that big tubing can be hard to fit in a case!!

    Ive looked at the innovatek gear hitide are selling and it looks nice, i know that ze germans prefer a different style of wc to the americans hence the slow pump, but the eheim 1046 really worrys me,

    how does a single rad innovatek setup perform with cpu and gpu cooling, is it much better or much worse than a danger den set up with bigger tubing and pump?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭CombatCow


    I got the XXS set from hitide and currently i have 1 rad,the cpu and gfx card hooked up.The cpu is 45'C idle( 2800+ Barton) atm and the gfx card is 40'C (5900Ultra) ,thats with 1 x 120mm fan at 5Volts...

    The european WC set have smaller tubing and ''slow pumps'' where as the americans have huge tubing and powerful pumps,From the reviews of waterblocks i have seen the max differance in temp cpu due to a faster flow rate of water was 2-3'C Max.

    I find nothing wrong with the 1046 tbh...within the next week im gonna have a 3800+ and 6800Ultra hooked up with 2 rads hopefully with 2x120mm fans on each of em, im expecting that there should no problems with temps.

    CC


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,055 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    45 degrees idle on the barton, not great is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭CombatCow


    Nope, but as i said it's with 1 rad and 1 120mm fan at 5Volts with the 5900Ultra aswell.;)

    I should get some sweet numbers next week when im fully finished modding my pc.


    CC


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭unklerosco


    I the same basic kit as combat only its a twin rad setup(no GFX block) on a p4 2.8 i get 30c Idle and 35c on load....

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=171568&highlight=watercooling


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭BadCharlie


    Combatcow

    You should check out the forums at www.overclockers.co.uk there is going to be a price drop in the Amd64's which might be a intrest to you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭CombatCow


    Well i bought the 3800+ 2 weeks ago, now...it's gone down by E60...a well :rolleyes:

    CC


  • Registered Users Posts: 177 ✭✭jow


    Originally posted by Cyrus
    Ive watercooled a few times before and i always went with the danger den maze 1/2" big eheim solution, worked fine but that big tubing can be hard to fit in a case!!

    Ive looked at the innovatek gear hitide are selling and it looks nice, i know that ze germans prefer a different style of wc to the americans hence the slow pump, but the eheim 1046 really worrys me,

    how does a single rad innovatek setup perform with cpu and gpu cooling, is it much better or much worse than a danger den set up with bigger tubing and pump?
    Hi,

    the thing is: size doesn't matter (ok, ok I know it does, but not with watercooling ;)

    The eheim 1046 provides around 300 litres per hour which comes down to around 5 litres per minute (the new eheim HPPS provides a little more).
    When used with 8mm tubing, the flow is reduced to around ~3 litres per minute.
    Innovatek (like most other watercoolers available) are designed to work with maximum efficiency at ~2 litres per minute.

    So, when you install a bigger pump, bigger tubing etc. it is relatively sure that you won't get a much lower temps (the water needs time to absorb the heat, thats why the xx-flow "swirls" the water to provide more contact area for heat transfer).

    The thing with the single rad is: A single rad is absolutely ok when you don't want to overclock it to the extremes. My current setup is a XP3200, graphics card, two harddrives connected to the single rad and my temps are around 45 degrees when playing battlefield vietnam. And the fan runs with 7 volts.
    So I would say it works quite well (by the way: all what counts when watercooling is the watertemperature, which should not exceed 40 degrees for a longer time).

    You can always connect a fan controller to the rad-fan, and if necessary run that thing with 12 volts when you need it.

    regards,
    jow


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