Importing from the UK - definitive guide (Q&A)

bazz26

6 months from date of original registration.

Tea drinker

bazz26 wrote: »

The whole idea of a non refundable deposit is for the dealer to protect themselves from somebody just changing their mind for no valid reason or weed out the messors who had no intention of buying anyway. However if you agree a price and are happy to buy the car pending an inspection then I see no reason why a dealer should not refund the deposit if the car fails the inspection for something serious or they are not willing to rectify minor things found by the inspection.

Kind of hobbles the negotiation too?

Happy4all

Is the VRT bookings usually a 3 week backlog?

bazz26

Tea drinker wrote: »

Kind of hobbles the negotiation too?

Your not going to be doing much negotiating with UK dealers anyway.

Gumbo

Happy4all wrote: »

Is the VRT bookings usually a 3 week backlog?

Yes. It was for me last month.
Brought car in on 4th and couldn’t get a booking h til the 21st.

Couldn’t book online either so had to call.

Horse1920

Happy4all wrote: »

Is the VRT bookings usually a 3 week backlog?

Same here for last month and then after vrt inspection it took 10 full days to get the payable amount so I'd budget a month time wise. It was mentioned by one of the dealers in the queue to be inspected, that you'd want to be clearing vehicles by the middle of March if hard brexit is on the cards.. could get to a situation that if your vehicle isn't plated and done by the UK crashing out then vat will be due. I would hopefully think that they'd be a grace period for anybody pending a vrt amount.

wassie

I don't intend to import again until the middle of the year. Personally, Im betting that the brexit deadline will be extended. Despite all the noise, just seems there is too much at stake for all sides (UK, IRE & EU) for a disorderly exit if the deadline arrives and a deal isn't done. However, I do sympathise for the dealers & businesses who don't have such a luxury and must plan for such a scenario.

BadSanta

Used vehicles imported from the United Kingdom
Revenue is aware that the UK Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency has withdrawn the Certificate of Permanent Export from circulation. This was an alternative to the standard V5 registration certificate for the purposes of re-registering a vehicle in the State. From now on the UK authorities will only be issuing V5 certificates to persons resident in the UK.

Customers are reminded that foreign registration documentation is required when presenting a used vehicle for registration in the State. Furthermore customers are reminded that the vehicle must be accompanied by this documentation. Vehicles presented without all the correct documentation will be refused registration.

It should be noted Revenue will continue to accept a Certificate of Permanent Export where it is presented.

Published: 06 February 2019

Hardtochoose

BadSanta wrote: »

Used vehicles imported from the United Kingdom
Revenue is aware that the UK Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency has withdrawn the Certificate of Permanent Export from circulation. This was an alternative to the standard V5 registration certificate for the purposes of re-registering a vehicle in the State. From now on the UK authorities will only be issuing V5 certificates to persons resident in the UK.

Customers are reminded that foreign registration documentation is required when presenting a used vehicle for registration in the State. Furthermore customers are reminded that the vehicle must be accompanied by this documentation. Vehicles presented without all the correct documentation will be refused registration.

It should be noted Revenue will continue to accept a Certificate of Permanent Export where it is presented.

Published: 06 February 2019

What does this mean? If you don’t get the V5 from the dealer you’re screwed basically, as the DVLA won’t issue you one?

SeaFields

Lads, can someone recommend a vehicle inspection service for Northern Ireland. Dekra said they don't cover it. Thanks.

Isambard

Hardtochoose wrote: »

What does this mean? If you don’t get the V5 from the dealer you’re screwed basically, as the DVLA won’t issue you one?

probably not but the alternative would be to go through whatever the procedure is for registering a car for the first time. Sounds like, as a general rule, it would be best not to buy a car with no V5C

wassie

Last car I bought from a major dealership (3 y.o. used) in 2017, dealer wouldn't give me the V5 - insisted I tax it and register it before leaving the forecourt by providing a UK address - no proof of address needed, they just simply entered the details straight into their system. I provided a Northern Irish address and new V5 was issued in my name and mailed out some weeks later at NI address.

melon_collie

Hardtochoose wrote: »

What does this mean? If you don’t get the V5 from the dealer you’re screwed basically, as the DVLA won’t issue you one?

Bought a car in the UK about 3 weeks ago from a reputable dealer. Requested the V5c from the salesman. He told me he couldn't give it to me because of "data protection". He sent half off to DVLA with our details and gave us the other half.

Got letter from DVLA last week saying that they worn be issuing V5c back to us and no cert of exportation will be issued. So in a bit of a fix at the moment.

Got back in touch with dealer. He admitted the mistake and apologised profusely. He referred the issue on to management and they have made an application to DVLA for V5c in my wife's name at the dealership address. If that doesn't work I'm not sure what to do.

Any ideas if the worst case scenario occurs??

Amouar

melon_collie wrote: »

Bought a car in the UK about 3 weeks ago from a reputable dealer. Requested the V5c from the salesman. He told me he couldn't give it to me because of "data protection". He sent half off to DVLA with our details and gave us the other half.

Got letter from DVLA last week saying that they worn be issuing V5c back to us and no cert of exportation will be issued. So in a bit of a fix at the moment.

Got back in touch with dealer. He admitted the mistake and apologised profusely. He referred the issue on to management and they have made an application to DVLA for V5c in my wife's name at the dealership address. If that doesn't work I'm not sure what to do.

Any ideas if the worst case scenario occurs??

I would bring it back to the UK dealer and get your money back if you can't register it here.

melon_collie

Amouar wrote: »

I would bring it back to the UK dealer and get your money back if you can't register it here.

Really hoping it won't come to that. But yes that's what I will have to do if there's no other option.

Amouar

melon_collie wrote: »

Really hoping it won't come to that. But yes that's what I will have to do if there's no other option.

That's the only solution unfortunately.

That's why is very important to not leave the dealer without the full V5C, even if it means cancelling the sale and taking a flight back home.

Isambard

Amouar wrote: »

That's the only solution unfortunately.

That's why is very important to not leave the dealer without the full V5C, even if it means cancelling the sale and taking a flight back home.

agree


In fairness that has been said probably dozens of times on this thread and still it happens. Going to be even more grief from now on .

ballybro

Got a car up in Northern Ireland 2 weeks ago and the Dealer handed us the full V5C without question. Id say some of the dealers in the UK are not sure what to do with the the V5C when selling to an Irish buyer and out of caution want to send it to thr DVLA.

bfa1509

BadSanta wrote: »

Used vehicles imported from the United Kingdom
Revenue is aware that the UK Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency has withdrawn the Certificate of Permanent Export from circulation. This was an alternative to the standard V5 registration certificate for the purposes of re-registering a vehicle in the State. From now on the UK authorities will only be issuing V5 certificates to persons resident in the UK.

Customers are reminded that foreign registration documentation is required when presenting a used vehicle for registration in the State. Furthermore customers are reminded that the vehicle must be accompanied by this documentation. Vehicles presented without all the correct documentation will be refused registration.

It should be noted Revenue will continue to accept a Certificate of Permanent Export where it is presented.

Published: 06 February 2019

Have you got a source for this? I had a quick google around but couldn't find any info.


Edit: It's ok found it! Thx. https://www.revenue.ie/en/news/articles/used-vehicles-imported-from-the-united-kingdom.aspx

kennypowers

melon_collie wrote: »

Bought a car in the UK about 3 weeks ago from a reputable dealer. Requested the V5c from the salesman. He told me he couldn't give it to me because of "data protection". He sent half off to DVLA with our details and gave us the other half.

Got letter from DVLA last week saying that they worn be issuing V5c back to us and no cert of exportation will be issued. So in a bit of a fix at the moment.

Got back in touch with dealer. He admitted the mistake and apologised profusely. He referred the issue on to management and they have made an application to DVLA for V5c in my wife's name at the dealership address. If that doesn't work I'm not sure what to do.

Any ideas if the worst case scenario occurs??

I was in a similar position early December.Dealer posted off full v5c form to dvla despite my insistence. Quoted data protection.I called up dvla in Swansea explained my story .very helpful .got my v5c form in the post following week.Did you call them?

michellie

melon_collie wrote: »

Bought a car in the UK about 3 weeks ago from a reputable dealer. Requested the V5c from the salesman. He told me he couldn't give it to me because of "data protection". He sent half off to DVLA with our details and gave us the other half.

Got letter from DVLA last week saying that they worn be issuing V5c back to us and no cert of exportation will be issued. So in a bit of a fix at the moment.

Got back in touch with dealer. He admitted the mistake and apologised profusely. He referred the issue on to management and they have made an application to DVLA for V5c in my wife's name at the dealership address. If that doesn't work I'm not sure what to do.

Any ideas if the worst case scenario occurs??

A letter from the DVLA with all the vehicle details on it if you can't get the v5.

homer1982

I've just sent payment to buy a car in Nottingham this afternoon. I then read here about the trouble with the V5 form, I rang the dealership straight away and told them the V5 form is absolutely vital for me to register the car here. In fairness he told me he had it and would put it in the customer pack with the car on its way over with NVD. He did say that the DVLA are usually very easy to deal with and any hassle and I should call them. Hope it works out for anyone in the same situation

bazz26

ballybro wrote: »

Got a car up in Northern Ireland 2 weeks ago and the Dealer handed us the full V5C without question. Id say some of the dealers in the UK are not sure what to do with the the V5C when selling to an Irish buyer and out of caution want to send it to thr DVLA.

It tells them what to do with selling a car for export on the DVLA website to be fair.

Damo W

Hi Guys,

The invoice I received from the UK seller/dealer states 'second hand margin scheme supply invoice' (first time getting one of these where the actual VAT amount is not shown) will this have any impact on my VRT calculation or will there be any VAT implication here.

Car is over 6 months old with over 6000km done.

Thanks

bazz26

Shouldn't make any difference imo. They don't care what or how you paid for the car in another country. They are only interested in the invoice to make sure it's the car as described, bought from a valid source and the sales date is within the 30 day VRT rules.

Hardtochoose

Looking at a 67 reg . Month of registration is January 2018 though. 67 reg goes from sept - feb in the UK. Will this translate to a 181 reg here?

WestWicklow1

Hardtochoose wrote: »

Looking at a 67 reg . Month of registration is January 2018 though. 67 reg goes from sept - feb in the UK. Will this translate to a 181 reg here?

Yes it will.

WestWicklow1

WestWicklow1 wrote: »

How long does it take for NCTS to issue a cert after they receive the MOT cert from you?

Answering my own question for anyone wondering.....

It takes about a week.

Hardtochoose

Anyone heard of a dealer refusing to release a car to non UK buyer? Nissan dealer saying their policy is only to let it be taken out by a transport company on a flatbed truck for transport to Holyhead. I’ve never heard this they’re insisting on it though . I’ve informed them I’ll have my own insurance and can tax the car while in the garage.

Old diesel

Hardtochoose wrote: »

Anyone heard of a dealer refusing to release a car to non UK buyer? Nissan dealer saying their policy is only to let it be taken out by a transport company on a flatbed truck for transport to Holyhead. I’ve never heard this they’re insisting on it though . I’ve informed them I’ll have my own insurance and can tax the car while in the garage.

If you aren't in the UK yet and THEY are paying the transport then I'd consider letting them at it.

MIght work out handier for you to travel to Holyhead as foot passenger* pick the car up there and drive back on the next sailing.

If the dealer wants YOU to pay the transport then I'd be telling them to do one.

Paying for transport because YOU choose to do that as some people do - is one thing - doing it because of a silly policy is another thing entirely.

*check with your Ferry company that it's possible to do that first.