Irish Club Teams In Europe

thejollyrodger

I just started this thread in light of Shels excellent result last night. Can someone there give the exact low down on what is our co-efficients and our current ranking. How does it work and how can the league improve?

Also how much would the league need to rise in order to enter directly into the 2nd round of the Champions league or the 3rd round??

If Shels win their UEFA cup legs, where do they go from there? Can a club team get into UEFA cup without going through the C/L ?

StickyMcGinty

yea i'd love to know where you can seee the coeff ranksings. when liverpool, united and arsenal all got to the quarters of the champo league, only then did the premiership get the 4th qualifiying place dont ye know!

Drag00n79

Lads, you'll get plenty of co-efficient info from this site. Serious reading!!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/

Big Ears

if im calculating right Shels beating Deportivo would put us up 6 places .
we are curently 40th .

Drag00n79

if im calculating right Shels beating Deportivo would put us up 6 places. we are curently 40th.

I think it's impossible to say what will happen with these co-efficients before matches because everything is affected by every match. You don't know the your overall position until all matches in a particular round etc. are played.

thejollyrodger

UEFA Country Ranking
The basis for the UEFA rankings is the performance of teams in the European Cups during a five year period. During that period each team gets two points for a win and one point for a draw. From 1999 on these points are halved for qualification matches: one point for a win and half a point for a draw. One bonus point is allocated for reaching the quarter final, the semi final and the final. Reaching the group stage of the Champions League yields three bonus points (before 1996: 2 points, from 1996-2004: 1 point). As of the 2004/05 season teams qualifying for the first knock-out round of the Champions League will be awarded with an extra bonus point. The so-called UEFA coefficients are calculated by taking an average, based on the total number of points divided by the total number of teams of each country. See the country coefficients of 2004 for an example of such a calculation.

The UEFA country ranking is computed by the sum of 5 coefficients in the last 5 years. See the country ranking of 2004 for an example of such a ranking list. To determine the participants in the Champions League and the UEFA Cup the last year ranking is used, because each country should know at the start of the season how many places it disposes.

UEFA Team Ranking
The UEFA team coefficients are calculated as the sum of the number of points of each individual team, and 33% of the country coefficient. Before 2004 the contribution of the country coefficient was 50%. See the team coefficients of 2004 for an example of such a calculation. For the calculation of the team coefficients games played in qualifying rounds are not taken into account.

The UEFA team ranking is computed by the sum of 5 coefficients in the last 5 years. See the team ranking of 2004 for an example of such a ranking list. In this list the yellow lines with country information indicate the lowest possible value for a team of that country (even if that team didn't play any game in the last five years). The most recent team ranking is used for seeding of clubs for draws in the Champions League and the UEFA Cup.

Before 1999 a number of strong teams in the UEFA Cup were seeded such that those teams do not meet in the first two rounds. To determine these teams, the sum of the ratio of the number of points achieved, divided by the number of games played by each team, was calculated for the past five years.

Results
The results of the European Cup matches, the UEFA coefficients, the UEFA country ranking and team ranking are available in the database.






Cup Win Draw Loss Bonus Points Average 41
Ireland 3 teams 1 0 7 0 1.0 0.333
Bohemians Dublin CL 1 0 3 0 1.0
Derry City UC 0 0 2 0 0.0
Shelbourne UC 0 0 2 0 0.0

So its looks like its 1 point for a win, 0.5 for a draw, 0.0 for loosing and the sum total is divided by 3.

If the Eircom league wants to progress and go straight in at the 2 group stage then it needs to raise its seeding from 41 to 25. Slovenia is currently at 25 and has a average of 2.166.

So the Eircom league teams need to win around 4 of their games and draw 3. Thats tough enough, and to get into the group stages needs another quantum leap.

I think the Eircom league can do well getting into the 3rd qualifying round and then seeing how they get on in the UEFA cup. I dont know if there is much prize money but some of the teams must be smaller than Deportivo

thejollyrodger

from the Irish Independent.....

(Shelbourne) They are guaranteed a place in the first round proper of the UEFA Cup even if they lose to Deportivo - a win over two legs there would guarantee them another four matches as this season Europe's secondary competition adopts a group format. However, they would need to beat one of the UEFA Cup's seeded teams, among them Newcastle, Middlesbrough, Auxerre, Stuttgart or Real Zaragoza. There would be rich television incomes amongst most of the seeded bunch.

Now that would be a huge boost of cash for the club:D