Beckham to Liverpool?

Oriel

Ok:
I've been to see Liverpool twice now, but I was in Manchester there last week, and decided to go on the Anfield tour.

Now, the guy hosting the tour knew his stuff. Some people in the tour asked him some pretty detailed questions, and he was very able to answer the questions (random questions, about the team) to the fine details, without any hesitation at all.

According to him:
Liverpool were in talks about signing Beckham, from a direct swap between him and Baros with Real Madrid if Vieira went to Real M. According to him, he got this information from the same source at Melwood (Liverpool's training ground, and braincentre of the team) who knew about Benitez's "definate" move about 3 weeks before the signing.

Now that Vieira has signed for R.M., what do you think about this?
I don't think there's much point in talking about the Liverpool/Man Ure rivalry in any of this, seeing as anything like that has gone out of the window, as far as Beckham is concerned anyways.

So, is this tour-hype/entertainment, or what?
S.

The Clown Man

Well I wouldn't fancy Beckham to stay at Real much longer but I would have thought they would at least keep him for another year just so it looks like he was a player. But maybe they have got all the marketing out of them they need and maybe he did help build the image of the team. Maybe they want to concentrate on getting some football played this year so maybe he will be shown the door.

And why the hell not Liverpool? Or Chelsea for that matter. But I would believe that he will be back in England fairly soon.

I would have thought they would have given him at least one more year though. Then again, maybe he knows he will be sidelined for the year ...

LegacyUser

No chance whatsoever.

mayordenis

whats unusual is i couldnt see him at any other club if he leaves real because we know he wont be back at united and as for chelsea i couldnt see them buying him when they have about 400 midfielders as is.

PiE

Don't think Victoria would be too happy living on Merseyside. Wouldn't particular want her there either, nor him. Unless it was for Tranmere.

Oriel

Completely off-topic;
PiE: Liverpool is only 45 minutes from Manchester.

Anywho...

p.pete

PiE wrote:

Don't think Victoria would be too happy living on Merseyside. Wouldn't particular want her there either, nor him. Unless it was for Tranmere.

Most Liverpool players don't live in Liverpool and they wouldn't either. If they still have whatever family home they used for Manchester then I'd imagine they could use it again.

I don't like Beckham but then again I don't like Owen either and he could sort out the right side of midfield for us quite nicely. I'd imagine he could improve on his performances from last season, he'd be more settled back in England.

It's an interesting one....

BrookieD

Theres no way Beckham would move to LFC, I am a huge LFC Fan and also watched a lot of Madrid last few years, although Beckham played great in some matches his overall performance on the season was not that great.

The only team with the kudos to sign Beckham and have the finance to make it real would be Chelsea. I may be wrong but his buy out is around €124mil no way LFC have that cash around, if they did theres a dam site better to buy on the market then one player who likes looking at his mirror more than playing the game.

No Way would Beckham be a Real red next season

p.pete

The biggest problem could actually be Becks wages - he's probably on a packet at Madrid.

If Madrid get Vieira then it's possible that they would want to offload him, it wouldn't be a case of paying to buy him out.

The wage thing could be resolved by giving him more marketing freedom / rights.

Still not sure I like the idea though....

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I like it better than the idea of Thomas Gravesen though.

Villain

Veira has NOT signed for Real and IMO wont.

p.pete

irish1 wrote:

Veira has NOT signed for Real and IMO wont.

At this stage you are probably (possibly (maybe)) right - Beckham will go nowhere unless they have someone else in there 1st

The Rooster

I believe that if Beckham was picking a team in England to join, for football reasons alone, he would pick Liverpool. Reason: Owen and Gerrard. He gets on great with both of them, and loves playing with Stevie G in particular.

Could Liverpool afford his wages? Doubtful

No doubt that Posh would prefer Arsenal or Chelsea.

Would Madrid really want Baros given the strikers they already have.

Baros has apparently said he wants to play for Barca. Would hardly go down well with the Madrid faithful!

I'm not sure Madrid would want rid of Beckham anyhow, even if Vieria came. The team line-up could be:

Salgado - Samuel - Helguera - Carlos
Figo - Vieria - Beckham - Zidane
Ronaldo - Raul

Kone

It won't happen... ever.....

midget lord

Firstly Benitez has stated on a number of occasions that he wants 4 strikers available to him for the season. Baros is one of those four. Baros has also publically stated that he is staying at liverpool.

However, i think SG, MO, DB and the new god DC would link particularly well. DC is good in the air and could latch on to DB high balls while MO would thrive on DB's through balls. But could you imagine the reception he'd get in the theatre of silence?

Bottom line, i dont think it will happen.

Villain

midget lord wrote:

Baros has also publically stated that he is staying at liverpool.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=218174&CPID=23&CLID=&lid=2&title=Baros+calls+for+Barca+move

Bannor

Lorenzo Sainz (former Real Madrid president) in his campaign to be re-elected opened negotiations with an agent claiming to represent Milan Baros. The agent was looking to make a quick buck and didn't have the permission of Baros or Liverpool to broker a deal. As part of his campaign he said if he was elected he would sell Beckham and Ronaldo to Chelsea and buy Milan Baros from Liverpool. A couple of weeks ago Beckham was seen out in Liverpool with Gerrard and Barton (Gerrard's mate at Man City). Fill in the dots and you've got what some might consider a credible rumour.

Liverpool have spoken to Real Madrid about signing a player, but it's supposedly Figo. The player has been told that he can sit out the remainder of his contract at the club. He had an offer from Chelsea but that was before Mourinho arrived and it has since been withdrawn. I was told Real have been approached by two Premiership teams about the player - one is Bolton who want to take him on loan for the season. The other I've been told is Liverpool but it could just be a tease and I doubt it will happen.

Drag00n79

According to him:
Liverpool were in talks about signing Beckham, from a direct swap between him and Baros with Real Madrid if Vieira went to Real M.

Heard this too last week. Can't see it happening though.

midget lord

"I said to the manager if somebody else came in I wanted to stay. I always wanted to play in England.

from that link that irish1 posted.


Besides its $ky, you should never take them seriously!

Villain

midget lord wrote:

"I said to the manager if somebody else came in I wanted to stay. I always wanted to play in England.

from that link that irish1 posted.


Besides its $ky, you should never take them seriously!

That link also quotes Baros as saying:

"When I was a kid it was my dream to play for Barcelona," said Baros. "To move to them would be nice but, if not, then I will stay here.

midget lord

That link does indeed say that, and again i will say its $ky, you should never take them seriously.

Baros finished top scorer in euro 2004 and unless liverpool receive an offer they cant refuse they wont let him go. IMO beckham for Baros would be a good move, the former being an unprecedented cash cow.

Raskolnikov

The Rooster wrote:

I'm not sure Madrid would want rid of Beckham anyhow, even if Vieria came. The team line-up could be:

Salgado - Samuel - Helguera - Carlos
Figo - Vieria - Beckham - Zidane
Ronaldo - Raul

There's not a hope in hell that Zidane would tolerate beeing shifted over to the left to accomodate Beckham. If Veira goes to Real, then Beckham has no other position than substitute.

irishgeo

A deal for a certain english player at Madrid was done and dusted but he changed his mind and wanted to stay in spain to prove himself.

The Rooster

Raskolnikov wrote:

There's not a hope in hell that Zidane would tolerate beeing shifted over to the left to accomodate Beckham. If Veira goes to Real, then Beckham has no other position than substitute.

He wouldnt be stuck on the left, he'd be swapping occassionally with Figo, and also floating around a lot - exactly like he did last season when Beckham was always in central midfield.

Zindane didnt play more than a couple of games (if any at all) as being one of a two man centre midfield. He was always on the wing or behind the front men. Now if Vieira does join it does open up the possibility of playing a PV ZZ centrefiled partnership. But its more likely they'd stick with Becks (at least at the beginning). Zidane would then play exaclty as he played last year. There's no question whatsoever of him not "tolerating being shifted over to the left".

Raskolnikov

The Rooster wrote:

He wouldnt be stuck on the left, he'd be swapping occassionally with Figo, and also floating around a lot - exactly like he did last season when Beckham was always in central midfield.

Zindane didnt play more than a couple of games (if any at all) as being one of a two man centre midfield. He was always on the wing or behind the front men. Now if Vieira does join it does open up the possibility of playing a PV ZZ centrefiled partnership. But its more likely they'd stick with Becks (at least at the beginning). Zidane would then play exaclty as he played last year. There's no question whatsoever of him not "tolerating being shifted over to the left".

Solari plays on the left side of midfield and has done for most of Real's games last season and so far in pre-season. If Veira does come to Real then he'll take over Beckham's holding role in midfield. Figo and Solari will continue to act as wingers and Zidane will have a free role. Maybe there is room for Beckham but I doubt it.

eirebhoy

Raskolnikov wrote:

Solari plays on the left side of midfield and has done for most of Real's games last season and so far in pre-season. If Veira does come to Real then he'll take over Beckham's holding role in midfield. Figo and Solari will continue to act as wingers and Zidane will have a free role. Maybe there is room for Beckham but I doubt it.

They would be stupid paying £23m on Vieira if they are planning on using him as a holding midfielder. They could get a proven holding midfielder for a quarter of the price.

Raskolnikov

eirebhoy wrote:

They would be stupid paying £23m on Vieira if they are planning on using him as a holding midfielder. They could get a proven holding midfielder for a quarter of the price.

They did it with Beckham

By holding, I meant playing Veira in a defensive role as he does with Arsenal making the occasional break forward.

eirebhoy

Raskolnikov wrote:

They did it with Beckham

By holding, I meant playing Veira in a defensive role as he does with Arsenal making the occasional break forward.

Where did they finish again last seasoN?

Tell me a team that play (and have been successful) without a holding midfielder and your second point will have a little validity.

Big Ears

irishgeo wrote:

A deal for a certain english player at Madrid was done and dusted but he changed his mind and wanted to stay in spain to prove himself.

yes but Steve Macmanaman has since gone to Man City .

PiE

Sinecure wrote:

Completely off-topic;
PiE: Liverpool is only 45 minutes from Manchester.

Anywho...

Precisely, she didn't wanna hang around Manchester very much either so I don't think she'd be willing to return anywhere up North, not just Liverpool.

Apart from her, the last thing Liverpool need now are some new spice boys. Literally.