Foreign registered cars in accidents???

miju

dcGT wrote:

It was in a shopping centre car park. So you don't NEED insurance in a non-public car park?

DC.

as explained to me by the gardai recently:

"you don't need insurace / is regarded as a civil matter if there's a barrier to the carpark (including the pay barriers)

godfather69er

well, do you all not feel discriminated in your own country??? i dont give a **** if you call me a racist but here is my 1 pence
fair enough foreign nationals you are welcome to come here and work and contribute to the economy and society, but you sure as hell have to obey the rules of the land its about time us irish and our politicians stopped licking major E.U and US ass and stand up for ourselves and tell them to fúck off if they cant obey our laws.
that nob of a defence minister is scared ****less to tell the russians and yanks to stop landing in our airports while transporting ****ing apache and russian military helicopters, and btw i am all for the war in iraq.
spend the money on decent quality roads and not on ****ing tribunirals,
Rant over:D

Anan1

ando wrote:

I also try keep clear of black people driving. Just dunno if their insured or not

Am I the only one who finds the idea of having a racist moderator on the boards a bit repulsive?

RoundyMooney

Anan1 wrote:

Am I the only one who finds the idea of having a racist moderator on the boards a bit repulsive?

Am I the only one that finds a realistic viewpoint instantly condemned as a racist one repulsive?

mike65

Anan1 is that pop at me? Or a previous Mod bearing in mind this thread was started in the summer of 2004.

Its not worth geting excitied about at this stage. While colour is a crude definition I really don't belive Ando was being racist. I try to give cars with KY plates more room cos the driving standards down there are so poor. Am I a Kerryist?

Mike.

KeRbDoG

Wonder what guards do when they have a checkpoint and come across a foreign reg'ed car? Anyone know?
Do they ask if they are on holiday? Where they live? Do they bother to follow up on them if they live in the country?

Anan1

ando wrote:

Originally Posted by ando
I also try keep clear of black people driving. Just dunno if their insured or not

racism Show phonetics
noun (UK OLD-FASHIONED racialism) DISAPPROVING
the belief that people's qualities are influenced by their race and that the members of other races are not as good as the members of your own, or the resulting unfair treatment of members of other races:
The authorities are taking steps to combat/fight/tackle racism in schools.
The report made it plain that institutional racism (= racism in all parts of an organization) is deep-rooted in this country.

RoundyMooney, perhaps you could explain to me how ando's post was not racist?

Anan1

mike65 wrote:

Anan1 is that pop at me? Or a previous Mod bearing in mind this thread was started in the summer of 2004.

Its not worth geting excitied about at this stage. While colour is a crude definition I really don't belive Ando was being racist. I try to give cars with KY plates more room cos the driving standards down there are so poor. Am I a Kerryist?

Mike.

Sorry Mike, my post had nothing to do with you. I didn't check the date on ando's post, I see now that it was some time back. I stand over my assertion that ando's post was racist - check any dictionary definition and you'll find that his post fits the bill exactly.

ds20prefecture

RoundyMooney wrote:

Am I the only one that finds a realistic viewpoint instantly condemned as a racist one repulsive?

Are you saying that it is a realistic viewpoint to avoid people based on their colour as a means of determining if they are insured or not? That is frankly ridiculous. I personally know 4 black people who are fully insured Irish citizens. Will I leap to the conclusion that all black people are fully insured irish citizens, and therefore (somehow) better drivers? Of course not, there's just no logic to it.

Boards is the home of sweeping, ungrounded generalisations - so it is not repulsive that someone so devoid of reason or common sense be made a moderator. It is depressing though.

ds20prefecture

PS: I'd hardly call 8 months later "instantly"

ds20prefecture

godfather69er wrote:

well, do you all not feel discriminated in your own country??? i dont give a **** if you call me a racist but here is my 1 pence
fair enough foreign nationals you are welcome to come here and work and contribute to the economy and society, but you sure as hell have to obey the rules of the land its about time us irish and our politicians stopped licking major E.U and US ass and stand up for ourselves and tell them to fúck off if they cant obey our laws.

Another glorious post from king of reason and tolerance. :rolleyes:

Borderfox

Dont mention paying road tax on your petrol, the government will charge us for that on top of everything else they do....!!!

gibbon75

Being myself and couple of my mates from one of the "new EU member" countries,we have asked two different Gardai officers about running non-Irish registered cars.
First officers answer:If you spend more than a year here,than you must register your car in Ireland.
Second officers answer:If you spend more than half a year here,than you must register your car in Ireland.
How to prove it that you've left the country?Keep the ferry ticket...

So I don't think Gardai officers are prepaired of the regarding rules...
I don't know anything about the other middle and eastern European countries' insurance rules,but I can tell you how does it work in Hungary (as I'm from there).We pay our car insurance every 1/4 year.When you paid the fee your insurer mails you an international proof of insurance (printed in English).It contains every detail you or the police needs in case of an accident.You're not allowed to leave Hungary without this proof (they usually check it at the border).
I think it works the same in the other new EU countries.
But I agree with that you must obey the laws and rules of the country,where are you at the moment (it doesn't matter if you live there,or you just visiting)

Sure I could save some money if I would buy a car at home,but I don't feel like leaving Ireland every year.So I'll just buy a car here

RoundyMooney

Anan1 wrote:

RoundyMooney, perhaps you could explain to me how ando's post was not racist?

Well, I'll happily throw in my tuppence worth. Ando can speak for himself, if he's still about. I too failed to note when the post was actually written, as an aside, and my comments have nothing to do with race. I will also avoid Polish/Latvian vehicles, given the recent sad events on roads up and down the country. Toyota Glanzas too, are given a wide berth. My decision to do so is totally based on my own experiences in this regard and have nothing to do with third party opinions or a desire to follow the chattering masses who see all non nationals as somehow fundamentally inferior. (A viewpoint which is equally reprehensible to me.)

Here are some of my (firsthand) anecdotes.

* Shunted outside Busarus a couple of years back by a Nigerian/Ghanain "gentleman" in a sh1tbox escort who put a nice crack in my bumper while attempting to reverse park. On realising his critical error, said individual immediately pulled out and took off at speed up the street, clipping the bumper of an unhappy Golf that was parked ahead of him. In his urge to escape he nearly blew an elderly pedestrian off the road. Happily his reg number was noted by me, although funnily enough, for a law abiding citizen, the Gardai were unable to trace him...

*Cork city recently; while driving correctly down a one way street, was accosted by another West African gent in a Primera, complete with dents and scuffed hubcaps who was "driving" up the street with blatant disregard for the law. Jumping out of the car shouting incoherently, he was quickly subdued by my threat to have the gardai come out and assess the situation for themselves, at which point he re-entered his vehicle and reversed back down the street. Not before, however I was able to note that his windscreen had no tax, insurance, or any other form of official marking... Tempted as I was to lose the rag in a situation like this, I kept my powder dry, because of the tendency of some of these people to play the "race card" regardless of whether a racial slur is invoked, or not.

*Jack Lynch tunnel roundabout, prior to the traffic light installation here (few months back?) West african lady, complete with spurious headgear, driving a hatchback of some kind navigated roundabout *three* times while her male accomplice sat in the passenger seat gesticulating furiously. I was at the roadside watching incredulously with an engineer from Cork County Council. When I say navigated, perhaps I'm being too kind. Veering wildly from lane to lane, causing traffic behind and to the side to take avoiding action and forcing a cement lorry onto the central reservation would be a more correct description...

I could go on all night, but that would bore both of us.

I can quote anecdotal evidence too in relation to Eastern European vehicles, as I say. Generally when these drivers misbehave, they do so at speed, however, making confirmation of their details difficult. Perhaps you are familiar with recent reports that one in five unhappy road deaths are non-nationals?

My point is, a statement of fact is not a confirmation of a mindset. If I am prejudiced, then I'm bloody sick of being vindicated all the time.

The racist card is overplayed IMHO.

RoundyMooney

ds20prefecture wrote:

Are you saying that it is a realistic viewpoint to avoid people based on their colour as a means of determining if they are insured or not? That is frankly ridiculous. I personally know 4 black people who are fully insured Irish citizens. Will I leap to the conclusion that all black people are fully insured irish citizens, and therefore (somehow) better drivers? Of course not, there's just no logic to it.

Boards is the home of sweeping, ungrounded generalisations - so it is not repulsive that someone so devoid of reason or common sense be made a moderator. It is depressing though.

I'll refer you to my post in reply to anan1, in relation to your first. A lot of people (not just here) assume racism where non exists. This is a very dangerous tendency and invites abuse and spurious allegation.

You're condemning the man a little soon, I fear...

RoundyMooney

ds20prefecture wrote:

PS: I'd hardly call 8 months later "instantly"

Take that up with anan1. It would seem, as is the norm, that his reading of the thread was followed on rather swiftly with his reply, as he confirmed to Mike earlier in the thread.

Gerry

ds20prefecture wrote:

Are you saying that it is a realistic viewpoint to avoid people based on their colour as a means of determining if they are insured or not? That is frankly ridiculous. I personally know 4 black people who are fully insured Irish citizens. Will I leap to the conclusion that all black people are fully insured irish citizens, and therefore (somehow) better drivers? Of course not, there's just no logic to it.

Boards is the home of sweeping, ungrounded generalisations - so it is not repulsive that someone so devoid of reason or common sense be made a moderator. It is depressing though.

Ok, sure how about another one. Everyone has just as much tax and insurance as everyone else. Theres no lack of insurance, nothing to be worried about. Boards has enough members that it can be said to be a fairly good barometer of public opinion ( maybe not a really broad spectrum, but still a large sample of people ).

godfather69er

ds20prefecture wrote:

Another glorious post from king of reason and tolerance. :rolleyes:

and another smart ass comment from irelands number1 ass licker;)

and why should we have to have reason and tolerence with these people who show no respect to this country, piss all over the rules(look at what happens when they are told to fúck off, they go before the courts to waste time and money)
prime example that kunle chap,
that chap pleaded to stay here to finish his leaving cert,we had him on tv in his uniform making us feel sorry for him coz he was thrown out of the country the 1st time without anything,btw did he come here with anything???he got a pardon to sit the leaving so 1yr later why hasnt he gone??hes doing engineering and prob taking a place a irish hopefully law abiding CITIZEN could have.
that fúcker was caught driving a ****box with no tax or insurance, went to court and got fined. they should have put him on the first boat out of here. the government has to stop this ass licking,coz they are walking all over the rules.
i know there are irish ****heads who break the law and i have less sympathy for them but the minority of foreign 'nationals' should tell the law breakers to go home coz the good section of their society is getting tarred with the same brush. if one of those uninsured ****heads crashes into me i will not be responsible for what i do to the ****, it mite be 'bite the kerb' time, and same for the irish scum too. i have had it with them, next uninsured car i see parked there will be no air in two of the tyres when i have finished with it the way i see it if you dont wanna play by the rules you cant play

Anan1

RoundyMooney -

I asked you to explain how you came to the conclusion that ando's post was not racist. You have ando's post, and you have a dictionary definition of racism. Go ahead.

MrPudding

SharpBlade wrote:

So, I guess that if you are a foreign national and your father lives in another European country, you can buy a used car in that other European country (at a discount price in comparison to you what you would pay in Ireland of course), have the car insured, registered and taxed there in the name of the father. You can then drive with that car in Ireland provided you are a nominated driver of the car and that the insurance company covers you in Ireland. So no VRT to pay and everything is above board. You regularly visit your relatives abroad to take the NCT over there (this is funded by the VRT you did not have to pay ;-). Am I right?

No, you are wrong. The only way an Irish resident can drive a foreign registered car in Ireland is if that car is owned but the drivers employer. Somewhere on the revenue website (I can't find it at the moment but will have a look tonight, I need it for another thread as well) i says that Irish residents are not allow to drive a car in Ireland unless VRT has been paid on it. My GF is French and we were hopeing to buy and register a car in her Dad's name in France. Cheap car, cheap insurance and no road tax. No go.

MrP

mike65

You know I'm locking this before everyone gets banned and we end up having to pre-select the posters like the Soccer forum.

Mike.