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stupid damn mini metalers - part 2

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  • 23-08-2004 10:06pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭


    i'm 16, and my fav bands are slipknot, slayer, chimiara, and cradle of filth.

    am i a stupid damn mini metaler?


    have you ever listened to a slipknot album?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Repli


    derrylahan wrote:
    i'm 16, and my fav bands are slipknot, slayer, chimiara, and cradle of filth.

    am i a stupid damn mini metaler?


    have you ever listened to a slipknot album?

    1047000469_hangrygoth.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    derrylahan wrote:
    am i a stupid damn mini metaler?

    For dragging up a stupid topic like this? Yes.

    I can't see this one lasting very long at all.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Repli wrote:
    1047000469_hangrygoth.jpg
    Spot on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭derrylahan


    @repli - lmao


    @karl hungus - the first post got 85 replies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    Spot on.

    Not a bit spot on, actually...
    Goth music is considerably different from Metal altogether, and seeing that it came from the whole 80's Post-Punk scene, with key bands like Bauhaus, Siousxie And The Banshees, Joy Division, Fields Of The Nephilim and as such has exactly nothing to do with the bands the original poster professed to enjoy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    derrylahan wrote:
    @karl hungus - the first post got 85 replies

    And the thread was locked after massive amounts of muppetry... And I don't see this getting much better either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    derrylahan wrote:
    i'm 16, and my fav bands are slipknot, slayer, chimiara, and cradle of filth.

    am i a stupid damn mini metaler?


    have you ever listened to a slipknot album?

    I've only heard slayer out of all that lot. I only like some of their stuff. Is this not all just "thrash" metal as I would call it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭dimerocks


    i personaly regret me starting the first thread but as i did i reply that whiule slipknot would be considered a mini band i dont think they are bad, that said it was mainly through hearing mick thompson play on a total guitar cd about 2 years ago and then i wouldnt listen to knot till volume3 came out and i heard the blister exists. at metalica they were fantastic though i think they would be more suited to playing indoor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Fobia


    Hi,
    this thread is stupid, there are too many styles of music out there to put anyone into certain groups or categories. If you have a closed mind then it's your own fault, no-one else's.

    Guide to opening your mind with regards to music:

    Don't judge anything until you have heard it not once, but twice. This applies to any genre and "sub" genre's.

    Listen to other people, but don't take their opinions for granted, they can be wrong. Great minds think alike, musical minds often don't.

    Karl-Hungus: Lock the thread, it's null and void :mad:

    que


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Not a bit spot on, actually...
    Goth music is considerably different from Metal altogether, and seeing that it came from the whole 80's Post-Punk scene, with key bands like Bauhaus, Siousxie And The Banshees, Joy Division, Fields Of The Nephilim and as such has exactly nothing to do with the bands the original poster professed to enjoy.
    :confused:

    What can we call them then?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    derrylahan wrote:
    i'm 16, and my fav bands are slipknot, slayer, chimiara, and cradle of filth.

    am i a stupid damn mini metaler?


    have you ever listened to a slipknot album?

    You listen to Slipknot voluntarily so you must be missing brain cells OK :D

    I wouldn't say that I've listened to a Slipknot album as "been involuntarily subjected to a Slipknot album". They are dire, I'd rather listen to Beyonce TBH...


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    derrylahan wrote:
    have you ever listened to a slipknot album?

    yup
    I have
    and I still think they're crap
    saw them at the Metallica gig, thought they were crap then too


  • Registered Users Posts: 767 ✭✭✭nesthead


    nahh slipknot aint that bad (they redeem themselves with thier live show) however Chaimara suck.

    Slayer, yer on the right track thier

    COF, not my favs... but have some great tracks, check out some Dimmu Borgir, i way prefer em.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Yes you are a mini metaller,

    COF sold out far too much and they try to hard with pathetic titles for their songs.Mayhem, Darkthrone, Darkfuneral and so many others pwn COF and its funny that those bands are so much better and kids rather listen to crap like COF just because they have some outrageous song titles and a "scary" look.

    Slipknot - Terrible, mainly just a fad.
    Chiamiria - Haven't heard much but from what Ive heard I dislike.
    Slayer - Very good band although their latest works have gone downhill a little.

    Scroll through the What Rock/Metal/Punk song are you listening to thread and check out a few of the bands mentioned.

    I recommend In Flames, Immortal, Opeth, Children Of Bodom, Meshuggah, Mayhem and Burzum to start off with.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Dathai wrote:
    I recommend In Flames, Immortal, Opeth, Children Of Bodom, Meshuggah, Mayhem and Burzum to start off with.
    Good stuff to get started out on! Try some Morbid Angel too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    This is what we call the "fag-core mallgoth." No offense, and the music is (bar Slayer) referred to as "mallcore" or "trendcore."

    That aside, I would also recommend Soilwork, Testament and if you want something that's crazy I would recommend Misery Index. Death/Grindcore band. If you want amazing musicianship with originality, Spastic Ink is your friend. Ignore Opeth, they're crap. I would agree, Dimmu Borgir are at least 10X better than COF. Don't go along with the latest fads (CHimaira, Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, A7X, Shadows Fall, God Forbid, Lamb of God) just because your pals say they're so hip and "in" and FUNderground. They are anything but. If you actually enjoy their music then fair enough. But try to listen to them without the hype that propels them.

    Children of Bodom rule. First 2 In Flames albums are must haves. Last 3 Dimmu Borgir albums are actually good. Immortal would be a good stepping stone for "real" black metal. As for death metal, I would recommend firstly trying Death, Deicide, Necrophagist and Cryptopsy. 4 varying degrees of death metal. Soulseek is a great program to find out about bands and music you'd never have found out about otherwise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 767 ✭✭✭nesthead


    yeah, i listened to ****e before i started looking at this forum, and these guys pointed me in the right direction. check out all that stuff recommended and metal maturity will not be far off.
    Originally posted by LightofDarkness Ignore Opeth, they're crap.

    not many people around here would agree with you on that one.... and I would be one of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Fobia


    Not one mention of Arcturus in all these recommendations? I am outraged.

    As such, I recommend Arcturus, in terms of songs, Ad Astra and For yet to end again are my favourites to date (I don't have all albums so I can't judge fully).

    que


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    derrylahan wrote:
    i'm 16, and my fav bands are slipknot, slayer, chimiara, and cradle of filth.

    am i a stupid damn mini metaler?


    have you ever listened to a slipknot album?
    If you actually care what everyone else will say, then yes. Yes you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Dathai wrote:
    COF sold out far too much and they try to hard with pathetic titles for their songs.Mayhem, Darkthrone, Darkfuneral and so many others pwn COF and its funny that those bands are so much better and kids rather listen to crap like COF just because they have some outrageous song titles and a "scary" look.

    While I'd agree with you that COF gone completely ****e, and I'd say they are basically the English version of Slipknot right now. But their earlier work really does stand out well over their current excretion, Vempire is still one of the best albums to have ever come out UK Extreme Metal scene back when you could actually call the band extreme with a straight face.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭derrylahan


    yeah i'll check out those bands,

    btw slipknots live shows are second to none -
    it was their live dvd which captured me -
    the album version of songs are still not as good (imo) to the live versions

    also thier cant be a fukin trend of metal bands (can their?)
    afsik trends are in pop, hip-hop


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Slipknot's live shows second to none!? You've obviously never seen Vader play, have you? :D

    And yes, of course there can be trends in metal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭derrylahan


    no i have never seen vader play wat are they like live?
    but that cant still cant take away from slipknots performance


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Fobia


    There are trends in everything. If this thread was to be a discussion of how good slipknot are good then why didn't you call it "slipknot be good live ROCK ON" or something?

    Close the thread, this has all been discussed before, and led to nothing, therefore the chances of it being intresting this time are....well.......none.

    que


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Tommy Vercetti


    before it's closed I'd like to second the Arcturus recommendation!


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭derrylahan


    all i want to make clear is that just because you dont like a band doesnt mean you should compare it to a technically better playing band and tell kids to listen to them instead

    music is about the energy it gives out - not who is better at playing their instruments

    btw slipknot arent metal, their hardcore/goregrind according to blackgoat.com
    and i'd agree


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Fobia


    I don't know how good technically slipknot are.

    Generally, being better at playing instruments and being creative means that you can make good music, this is why most bands who are good at playing their instruments (when I say instruments, I don't mean their cocks), result in being good bands.

    You appear to have a closed mind with regards to music in general, not just the heavy scene.

    Bands/artists I'd recommend you listen to now: Arcturus, Yes, Sigh (only heard of them last night, they be well good), Children of Bodom, Joe Satriani.

    These bands/artists stretch over several different genre's, but it's all good music.


    That is all,

    que


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    LOLROFLLMFAO!

    Slipknot are nothing close to goregrind!
    Honestly, try listen to Pig Destroyer and tell me with a straight face that Slipknot are goregrind.

    How about you actually try and listen to some of the bands suggested. God knows, you might actually enjoy it more than Slipknot?


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭derrylahan


    well let me tell you jeoys a fantastic drummer
    and for mick check out the line 6 website


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  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭derrylahan


    fuk i'm not rich
    where am i going 2 get these cds?


    i have joe satriani -he is mind blowin


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