Rooney Arrives at Man United

Villain

Its being reported that Wayne Rooney has arrived at Man Uniteds training ground to undergo a medical.

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IMO I think €25million is a little OTT, Alex will probably leave 2 of RVN, Saha, Smith and Rooney on the bench every week when there all fit!

I think Smith won't be too happy to see him arrive.

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Good news, I think it's a good signing.

I know people will go on about the need for a left winger, but when a player of this calibre becomes available it's good to see that United can sign him, no matter what other positions need filling.

As I have said before on here, teams need 4 quality strikers to compete at any decent level, and Rooney fits this bill.

Grimlock

Agreed though 25mill is very OTT, for that cash united could have had Reyes & Smith, ok they already have Smith but i'm trying to put this in persective.

Rooney is good but he's not that good, they could have bought better for that cash, ie a good defender, they don't half need one, and a left winger.
If I where a utd supporter i'd have prefered to see Duffer and King come in, and i'd say both could have been bought for 25.

O'Shea to newcastle now?
Does anybody else think this opens the door for VanHorseface to move to Real, less likely now with Owen there but it's very hard to find a striker who will happily sit out the first 70mins of matches and like Solskjaer did and not complain.

Boro

Well they have the option of playing smith on the right wing (ala solskjaer) and rooney looked good in linking attack and midfield (like scholes) so theoretically they could play all 4 strikers at the same time without being too lopsided.

It gives them a lot more options like playing 4-5-1 with rooney and smith breaking from midfield, or anything with 3 up front. While a defender or another winger would have been nice, i dont think that they could pass up on rooney.

sharkman

More about the transfer on Guardian Unlimited Football

K!LL!@N

What about looking at the move from Rooney's point of view.

I think it's a fantastic move for him and probably the best one he could have made.
He'll be at a team playing at top of the premiership, challenging for titles as well as playing in Champions League.
He has competition for places from other good players but i think he'll get a bit more understanding if he doesn't perform straight away.
He's no doubt seen as a long term investment but one who could preform straight away.

I can see him doing really well at united and then everyone will say what a great buy he was.

Killian

The Rooster

ManU have informed the Stock Exchange they have reached "outline agreement" for the transfer of Wayne Rooney from Everton.

Iago

Manchester United have confirmed to the Stock Exchange that they have an 'outline agreement' with Everton over the transfer of Wayne Rooney.
The Toffees striker was pictured arriving at Carrington on Tuesday morning to discuss the terms of his move to Old Trafford.
Everton had stressed that no deal had been agreed, but United have now revealed that they expect to sign the teenager, subject to the completion of his medical.
Although still recovering from the foot injury he sustained at Euro 2004, Rooney is expected to come through the tests, which took place in a hospital in Manchester.
It looks as though United are on course to beat the transfer deadline and snare one of the country's most exciting talents in a deal worth more than £25 million.
Newcastle United appear resigned to defeat*in the race for the Merseyside marksman's signature, with a central defender surely the priority for the manager-less Magpies before the close of play on Tuesday.
More developments are expected as the deadline creeps ever closer.

knobbles

K!LL!@N wrote:

I can see him doing really well at united and then everyone will say what a great buy he was.

ditto, they've got a class act, just 18 but he'll make a massive impact at united though they still look a shade of the current arsenal team.

Dr. Dre

I don't think this is a great deal for Utd. Even Ferguson seems to be getting caught up in the Rooney hype.
They already have a very good strikeforce, Utd. need to concentrate on defence and midfield, some really tough central midfielders are a must, and as for defence, well, they may just as well start from scratch - bar keeping Keane, G Neville and Rio (when he's back) - the rest are a flippin waste of space tbh i.e. Silvestre, O'Shea etc..

Imagine now, you have the two hottest headed footballers, playing up front together (neither of them are unused to seeing red cards pointed at them)........interesting times indeed.

beer enigma

Dr. Dre wrote:

I don't think this is a great deal for Utd. Even Ferguson seems to be getting caught up in the Rooney hype.
They already have a very good strikeforce, Utd. need to concentrate on defence and midfield, some really tough central midfielders are a must, and as for defence, well, they may just as well start from scratch - bar keeping Keane, G Neville and Rio (when he's back) - the rest are a flippin waste of space tbh i.e. Silvestre, O'Shea etc..

Agree totally with you Dre........

Saha ain't gonna be happy with this & whilst I'm delighted to see two English players in the team, its defence & midfield that are more pressing. They've looked very uncomfortable at the back

20 Times 20 Times

good signing for united and over time he will prove worth his money .. think the defence will sort itself out once rio is back

The Muppet

Great signing for United. Who cares whether the other strikers are happy or not. If will keep them all on their toes and they can not afford to be as complacent as they have been of late or they will loose their place. I'd say Alan Smith has the least to worry about with Rooneys arrival as he has been playing very well .

United dont need to spend on a defender as they have one of the best in the world back from suspension in a month and another just back from winning an olympic gold not to mention brown. I would like to see the same competion for places in midfield as there will be in the front line once Rooney arrives. I expect fergie to play him in Scholes current position "in the hole " allowing Scholes play in his best position of center midfield.

yop

"Agree totally with you Dre........

Saha ain't gonna be happy with this & whilst I'm delighted to see two English players in the team, its defence & midfield that are more pressing. They've looked very uncomfortable at the back"

Agree totally, we do not need him. As said once Rio comes back in 2 weeks we will be steady at the back but it is 2 midfielders we need, an attacking midfielder and a ball breaker to replace Keane. Massive season for both Djemba *2 and Kleb, final season for them if they do not make a big impact

GuanYin

I think Rooney is overrated. He is a decent player and yes, he has a wealth of potential, but he is certainly not a 25 million player. Utd's inability to score at the moment, may suggest they are lacking in striking options, but I think their problems run slightly deeper than that.

I'm not so sure its a good move for Rooney, another year at Everton would have been better for him, after all he hasn't actually played a full season yet. As it stands I'd put him at 4th choice after Van Nist, Smith and Saha. It looks like Bellion will be frozen out now too. A head scratching transfer.

MisterAnarchy

This could be the straw that breaks the camels back .
United dont need anymore strikers.
The reason they are not scoring enough goals is because the midfield is bereft of creative play.
They are lacking wide players who can deliver good ball into the box.
Fortune,Fletcher,Djemba,Miller and Philip Neville are all destructive players.
Roy Keane is too old and Scholes form has been very poor for the last year.
I see this year being a very poor one for United ,a team that has been in steady decline since 1999.
This may also be Fergusons last season .

Bannor

MisterAnarchy wrote:

Fortune,Fletcher,Djemba,Miller and Philip Neville are all destructive players.

Have you seen them play?

Big Ears

Bannor wrote:

Have you seen them play?

I think he ment defensive .
While all of them(mainly Darren Fletcher and Liam Miller) may not be defensive minded , none of them are attack minded players .

EKRIUQ

United have always been missing out on the big players, Roanaldino last year and look what he did in in Spain

And if he doesn't work,,,, mmm... what the hell, There's other strickers there

BKtje

The reason they are not scoring enough goals is because the midfield is bereft of creative play.

I'd agree with that to a certain extent but iots not like they having been making chances. Against Blackburn and Everton heaps of possesion and a fair ferw chances which whould have been put away with a bit more luck (of course everton could say the same).
Ronaldo, Giggs, Kleb (looking better abd better for me) and scholes. Plenty of creativity there but atm none of them are playing to their best. I think thats the main problem personally.

There is really a very strong team there for the future. Oshea, Spector, Brown, Djemba, Ronaldo, Fletcher, Bellion, Rooney, Miller, Eagles and Richardson. While the present may not be too rosy the future is definitely bright and orange.

Big Ears

the future would be bright if Wenger wasn't putting such a good squad of young players together himself , and Chelsea won't but youth players but will keep buying players of a very good calibre , for as long as Roman is involved .

Man United have finnished 3rd on two occasions since the Premiership began .
In the next 10 years I think they will finnish 3rd more than twice .

smemon

everton head of supporters really slaughtering rooney on skysportsnews. real hatred there, not just disappointment!

great boost for utd, even if it is a bit ott but he is a big marketing tool and he should pay for himself. at least he cant play against us and hurt us, we'd be saying 'what if' and 'should have'. a buy for the future and will set us up excellently for many years to come.

cant wait to hear the reception he gets at anfield.

Big Ears

smemon wrote:

everton head of supporters really slaughtering rooney on skysportsnews. real hatred there, not just disappointment!

great boost for utd, even if it is a bit ott but he is a big marketing tool and he should pay for himself. at least he cant play against us and hurt us, we'd be saying 'what if' and 'should have'. a buy for the future and will set us up excellently for many years to come.

cant wait to hear the reception he gets at anfield.

Smemmon is it just me , or do you constantly change you're opinion of Wayne Rooney ?

eirebhoy

6 year deal for a possible fee of £27m.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3611234.stm

smemon

he's over-rated and i dont like the hype around him but he does have talent.

severly over-priced imo but has been everton and england's best player over the last year. we dont need him as such and i would have liked to see maybe a defender and midfielder come for that price but none the less he's not exactly a waste of money.

he's got about 15 years left of his career so its another good asset to have for the future.

at this moment and time id say he's a good player, not a great player. however playing with manu and in a winning side that will probably change.

Jivin Turkey

United sign their second striker that has received more premiership bookings than scored premiership goals. Id say Arsene Wenger is quaking in his boots.

Very good player but over priced, and still has alot to prove, he wont have the same effect on English defenses as they know what to expect. Could be the end for RVN which Im more than happy with.

Big Ears

Players don't pick up as many bookings at United so I can't see his discipline being much problem for them .

Although 17 goals in 77 league game isn't exactly a frightning record .
9 Goals in 17 Internationel games is very impressive and considering he's an 18 year old that an incredible record , its all a matter of which Rooney will play for United .

eirebhoy

Big Ears wrote:

Although 17 goals in 77 league game isn't exactly a frightning record.

soccerbase says 15 in 67, 40 starts. Not bad considering he started at 16 and was playing in weird position, in and out of the team for Everton.

The Muppet

eirebhoy wrote:

6 year deal for a possible fee of £27m.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3611234.stm

£20 million with the possibility of it rising to 27 to 30 million depending on performances and appearances. 25% sell on clause. It sounds ok to me and if he turns out to be the next Shearer it will be money well spent for a player that could possibly give 17 years service to the club. Its a bit of a gamble as are all transfers but as I said earlier I think he is a great signing .

knobbles

Big Ears wrote:

Although 17 goals in 77 league game isn't exactly a frightning record .

67 games, 15 goals.
many of those would be substitute appearances, especially his first season.

Big Ears

eirebhoy wrote:

soccerbase says 15 in 67, 40 starts. Not bad considering he started at 16 and was playing in weird position, in and out of the team for Everton.

SSN have been saying something that is not fact for 3 or 4 days now then .
Id be suprised they got it wrong though .

Pigman II

Lucky United!

Rooney and VanNistelrooy are gonna be like a partnership from fantasyland as far as I'm concerned!

Big Ears

Pigman II wrote:

Lucky United!

Rooney and VanNistelrooy are gonna be like a partnership from fantasyland as far as I'm concerned!

ROFL

jesus_thats_gre

Pigman II wrote:

Lucky United!

Rooney and VanNistelrooy are gonna be like a partnership from fantasyland as far as I'm concerned!

http://www.intrafin.be/html/archive/products/figurines/mcfarlane/shrek_plush/images/all.jpg

One of the best posts ever..

cournioni

He has everything to prove. Hopefully he'll out do his expectations and United will be a force again.

I'm still a little pissed off that we won't be able to sing any songs about t'Leeds or Liverpool. We'll see what happens though.

Dewey

I cant belive the fee could rise to £29million. Rooney hasnt scored that many in the Premiership but he was in a stuggling Everton side.
I think its way to much for the lad. I think Fergie will be under huge pressure to deliver. Remember David Gill said lasy week that its bad business to buy Rooney for £30million so fergie must of put some pressure on the board to buy. I would be delighted if we win the Champions League and come 3rd in the league.

cournioni

£27 million. Not £29 million.

Here's the pictures of the graffiti outside Goodison Park...
http://evertonblogcouk.blogspot.com/2004/08/exclusive-photos-of-appalling-rooney.html

Check out the spelling on the second picture... Stupid scousers...

Dewey

PORNAPSTER wrote:

£27 million. Not £29 million.

Here's the pictures of the graffiti outside Goodison Park...
http://evertonblogcouk.blogspot.com/2004/08/exclusive-photos-of-appalling-rooney.html

Check out the spelling on the second picture... Stupid scousers...

Sky Sports News are saying £29million.

The best graffiti message had to be:

"ROONEY COULD OF BEEN A GOD. BUT INSTEAD CHOSE TO BE A DEVIL"

Seen that in one of the papers today.

woosaysdan

some people are taking this a bit too seriously!!! e's a player with great potential but should of stayed at everton for another year to improve a develop a bit more!!!

Dr Bolouswki

muppet has it right - rooney in the hole, horse prick up front and scholes back in his normal posisition looks tasty for united fans...

and rooney wasn't evertons best player over the last 18 months - that would be Thomas Gravesen...

MisterAnarchy

rooney wasn't evertons best player over the last 18 months - that would be Thomas Gravesen

I concur.
How could Rooney be the best player he only played every second game at best.

jesus_thats_gre

United announced to the stock exchange that it was 29.7 million I think.

leeroybrown

Sky Sports News are saying £29million.

Six year contract.
No. 8 (vacated by Butt).
An initial fee of £20 million. Half now, half on 1st August 2005.
Performance fees of £7 million in total. £3 million based on him still being a United player on 30th June 2007. The rest on appearances, etc.
According to Sky Everton have a 25% sell on clause.

I'd say that Pro-Active Sports Management, Rooney's agents have taken a rather nice fee.

The Rooster

I'd say that Pro-Active Sports Management, Rooney's agents have taken a rather nice fee

The agents get £1m up front and another £500k if he stays with United for 6 years.

Villain

Theres still a legal battle over who is his agent isn't there? It was featured in a program by Des Cahill during the summer!

talla

While I think that the overall price is inflated for Rooney, I think United have structured the deal very well, no huge outlay of cash straight away. Very like the way Real structured the deal for Beckham.

talla

irish1 wrote:

Theres still a legal battle over who is his agent isn't there? It was featured in a program by Des Cahill during the summer!

Yeh there is still a dispute over who his agent is. I was listening to the last word last Friday and Mark Lawrenson was saying that at the time Paul Stretford(i think thats his name), the owner of the company currently representing Rooney, were pushing Rooney to go to Newcastle because Uniteds new policy was to publicly declare all agents fees. Supposedly he didn't want the crowd from London that used to represent Rooney knowing exactly how much in agents fees had changed hands as there was still legal action pending.

leeroybrown

talla wrote:

I think United have structured the deal very well, no huge outlay of cash straight away.

I think this is due to a change in the way deals between English clubs can be structured. Previously clubs in the Itallian, Spanish and other leagues always used split payment schemes when playing big fees for players (including to English clubs) but an internal transfer between two English clubs had to be an up front fee.

leeroybrown

talla wrote:

Yeh there is still a dispute over who his agent is. I was listening to the last word last Friday and Mark Lawrenson was saying that at the time Paul Stretford(i think thats his name), the owner of the company currently representing Rooney, were pushing Rooney to go to Newcastle because Uniteds new policy was to publicly declare all agents fees. Supposedly he didn't want the crowd from London that used to represent Rooney knowing exactly how much in agents fees had changed hands as there was still legal action pending.

I've yet to hear anything about Pro-Active Sports Management that paints them in a good light in a good light!

Grimlock

No time wasted by the United press board........
http://tinyurl.com/5ntsf

Still think they've paid too much!

The Rooster

I dont think there's any doubt that Rooney is a sensational talent, who could become the best footballer in the world. No doubting also that it is a gamble for United, he may be injury prone, he may always be too fat, he may be too thick to be a great. But given United's coffers, it was worth the risk. As a Liverpool fan I would much preferred had he stayed at Everton.

However it could be argued that United could have spent their money in a better way. I'm certainly glad they didnt come to Liverpool with a £25m offer for Gerrard, which may have been too much to turn down.

Cannavaro was just sold for €10m. So United could potentially have got him and say Duff for under £25m. Probably more valuable to the United team than just Rooney.