Racism against Dubliners

Hagar

I wish to protest the constant tirade against Dublin people on the boards. I believe it constitutes a form of racism. Racism is quite correctly banned from these boards. We are not a city of skangers, they form a minority as they do in all communities throughout the country. It is not a dirty place, see the national survey published yesterday. Treat Dubliners with the respect with which you would like to be treated.

If you think I am going over the top, substitute any derogotary term for a coloured person where you see the word "Dubliner" in many of the posts on these boards and if the post is then racist , it was racist before the substitution and should be banned.

Stephen

Of course, then you have every gimp from dublin with a chip on his shoulder whining about "boggers" and "culchies".

it cuts both ways.

Giblet

Dublin isn't a race.

Pigman II

"But 'twas all in good fun!"

I don't mind it. Actually find it funny. They only do it cos they're jealous (and probably bored from having nothing better to do down in their own particular little corner of bog-ville) anyway.

Ste-

Like everything on boards take it with a pinch of salt.

FX Meister

Dublin is a filthy place though, you have to admit that. People in Dublin don't really care about how their city looks and have no problem dumping all over it.

Ste-

FX Meister wrote:

Dublin is a filthy place though, you have to admit that. People in Dublin don't really care about how their city looks and have no problem dumping all over it.

Same could be said about other counties.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0830/litter.html

monkeyfudge

FX Meister wrote:

Dublin is a filthy place though, you have to admit that. People in Dublin don't really care about how their city looks and have no problem dumping all over it.

Well, most European cities actually do a proper job of cleaning up after their citizens. Dublin City Council is useless at this. Those 'Green Machines' are a joke, they just make the pavement slightly damp and leave the ciggerette butts and sweet wrappers on the ground.

And would it be too much to ask for chewing gum to be either banned or heavilly taxed???

stevenmu

I remember being given out to by a a girl from "the country" because *ALL* Dublin people think they're so much better than everyone else and that *ALL* Dublin people believed in the stereotypes of "country people".

Just because *I* think I'm better than everyone else doesn't mean all Dubliners do.





(and I haven't even lived in Dublin since I was 4)

Mighty_Mouse

nothing better to do down in their own particular little corner of bog-ville

Lived in Dublin for a while. Can safely say that the slagging and abuse "culchies" receive from Dublin "skangers/mammy-boys" far outweighs anything the other way.

Batbat

stevenmu wrote:

I remember being given out to by a a girl from "the country" because *ALL* Dublin people think they're so much better than everyone else and that *ALL* Dublin people believed in the stereotypes of "country people".

Just because *I* think I'm better than everyone else doesn't mean all Dubliners do.





(and I haven't even lived in Dublin since I was 4)

Thats becasue Dubliners are better

monkeyfudge

Batbat wrote:

Thats becasue Dubliners are better

Better than Jesus, was my understanding...

Bethlehem was a pretty dirty city too you know...?

kirn

i don't know anyone who would actually treat anyone different because they are from the country or the city. thats not racism. its banter. ban-ter. its like blonde jokes.
people with any sense will know its just a bit of crack.
anyway, skangers are always overreacting...

Paladin

Dubliners are all skangers...

Paladin

Obviously.

And non Dubliners are inferior skangers...

Sleipnir

monkeyfudge wrote:

Well, most European cities actually do a proper job of cleaning up after their citizens. Dublin City Council is useless at this. Those 'Green Machines' are a joke, they just make the pavement slightly damp and leave the ciggerette butts and sweet wrappers on the ground.

And would it be too much to ask for chewing gum to be either banned or heavilly taxed???

Well, Cork was recently found to be the dirtiest city in Ireland.

I do agree with the chewing-gum tax though. O'Connell bridge is just amazing. It's almost art.

da_deadman

Dubliners will make fun of culchies for hours and hours, but if someone says something about Dubliners then they get really defensive straight away.

If you can't take it, then don't give it....

SheroN

to a standard dubliner there's two places in ireland, Dublin and this mythical place called "down the country".

Flukey

Well maybe one of the reasons Dublin is so full of skangers is that half of the people in Dublin are from the country!!!

Anyway, to show that us Dubliners can laugh at ourselves I'll direct you to these two threads in the Humour forum that I posted in recent times:


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=181992

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177373

jank

STFU biatch!!

Giblet

shup ye geebag ye, gissus a jant on yer bike will ye?

ixoy

SheroN wrote:

to a standard dubliner there's two places in ireland, Dublin and this mythical place called "down the country".

I prefer the term "beyond the Pale" but the same general principle applies.
I used to rib one of my friends about coming from those regions. He never really helped himself in the matter because he actually did spend his summers work with actual bog turf. I mean c'mon that's too almost too easy...

combs

What are you all on about? Most people living in Dublin are from somewhere else anyway. These days most of them are foreign!

Dublin people are alright. The place itself needs a shake-up though, in both organisation and appearance.

_blank_

I recently had the misfortune to spend some time in the County of Waterford ( I am a Dubliner by the way ).

What I experienced was nothing short or Racism.

One "club" in Dungarvan refused me entry, although many locals were allowed in after me. I was not drunk, I had 2 pints in a pub nearby. When I questioned why I was being refused entry, one of the locals said "Coz you're a jackeen". The gorilla on the door nodded in agreement. :rolleyes:

Also, I was staying with a family just outside of Dungarvan, they were lovely, one of my friends met the daughter when away, very friendly people altogether.

However, my friend's friends' boyfriend ( sorry ), was nothing short of vitriolic in his apparent hatred for Dubs.

He wouldn't talk to us, ignored us in the house, and made smart comments to his mates at every hands turn. Effin' Dubs this, Bleedin Jackeens that.

Flukey

Well here is a nice view of Dublin:

http://homepage.eircom.net/~flukey/DublinCity.htm

Sarky

According to my calculations, you're all idiots.

Emmo

arent all generalisations rubbish?

Emmo

Cake Fiend

Why do you care what a load of spud-munchers say about Dublin?

FX Meister

I think a lot of other EU citizens take better care of their cities and dont litter as much as we do. Maybe if the corpo clamped down and really went after people littering with fines, and not just dudes dumping their fag butts, then they could afford to better their cleaning systyems.
In regard to the general topic, I prefer to live in Dublin rather than the country, if someone asks me this I will admit it, I'm not slagging boggers but I just wouldnt want to live in the country.

monkeyfudge wrote:

Well, most European cities actually do a proper job of cleaning up after their citizens. Dublin City Council is useless at this. Those 'Green Machines' are a joke, they just make the pavement slightly damp and leave the ciggerette butts and sweet wrappers on the ground.

And would it be too much to ask for chewing gum to be either banned or heavilly taxed???

Hagar

Are people working under the mis-conception that all dirt, litter etc in Dublin comes from Dubliners?
You only have to take a look at the main roads, train stations, bus stations, stage coaches etc leading out of Dublin on Friday to get some idea of the number of non-Dubliners who reside here for most of the week and go home at weekends. I'm sure these "itinerant workers" cause their fair share of gum, McD wrappers etc to be strewn around Dublin.

Ste-

Flukey wrote:

Well here is a nice view of Dublin:

http://homepage.eircom.net/~flukey/DublinCity.htm

It would be if the pictures worked.

ionapaul

Although Dublin has some of the most beautiful people in Ireland living there (Baggot St. after work on a Friday? Mmmmmm...) it certainly and without any doubt has the highest concentration of fuglies. Always strikes me as I walk around O'Connell St. or Henry St. - inbreeding, poor nutrition, or society's preferences colouring my views, who can tell? They are probably nicer than the 'beautiful people' in any case.

Flukey

Ste- wrote:

It would be if the pictures worked.

They do.


Sarky, can we view your calculations?

DrColossus

Those pictures are a load of old bollix,Its amazing how the sun makes it look so lovely. I walk up the keys every morn from heuston and the stink is unbearable. If you look in the liffey its full of manky old tyres and god knows what else. The only reason we know its "water" is cos it moves slightly faster than land. Dublin city is NOT a lovely place. The city is not full of skangers but jaysus man, theres an awful lot of them round o'connell st and henry st.

oh and dont take the boards to seriously, we culchies get the piss ripped out of us just as often,

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oh yeah and dublin isn't a race, you silly fool
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Flukey

I don't think too many people take here to seriously. Look at those two threads in the humour section that I posted above. Both relate to Dublin!

munkeehaven

oh.god.seriously, if ye heard yourselves ffs, i mean this little island is bloody tiny, we are all the same, there is not enough land between dublin and other places to make ye somehow "better" blah blah blah and vice versa.the whole culchies/ townies thing will go on and on like always... :rolleyes: i guess people need to keep themselves occupied *somehow*.snore.

Flukey

Don't forget the southsiders and the northsiders!

munkeehaven

i just think that irish people are very parochial.that can be good in small measures ie for gaa games and whatnot but outside of that, it just gets tiring.

Flukey

Yes we are parochial, but then as has been said above, we don't take it too seriously! The vast majority of it is fun and banter. That is why rival fans can stand beside each other and slag the hell out of each other at a GAA match. You wouldn't get that happening in every country. The northsiders hat the southsiders, the dubs hate the culchies, the Irish hate the Brits, the Europeans hate the yanks, the yanks hate the world, the martians hate the earthmen, the.... All of it is true and none ot it is true. It is all relative and no one takes it too seriously, here at least. The Irish don't take things too seriously. That can have its problems at times, but we enjoy ourselves and get through it. It is better than being stoney-faced all the time. We like to slag and be slagged. Some people do take it seriously. If you try and slag an American, they take it seriously and don't get what we are at. Slagging each other here is all part of the fun. As we know it is not serious, it doesn't bother people. Dubs and culchies love to slag and be slagged and long may it continue!

Tommy Vercetti

munkeehaven wrote:

i just think that irish people are very parochial.that can be good in small measures ie for gaa games and whatnot but outside of that, it just gets tiring.

true true, wasn't life a whole lot simpler when we could just nod in disagreement with prods and brits

Hagar

Flukey, your'e spot on. I had two things in mind when I posted this thread.

Firstly I wanted to provoke discussion regarding the bias shown by "Boards" in moderating political correctness. Is seems it is perfectly acceptable to use/abuse certain stereotypes but others are protected with undue vigour. For instance I can post "The dirty Jackeen ate my apple" or "The thick Culchie ate my my turnip" but if if post "The lazy Niqqer ate my watermelon" I risk being banned. The auto editor won't even let me spell the word. I maintain that all stereotypes should either be banned or allowed.

Secondly I was doing a personal survey on how many boggies could read. Next week the test will be on joined up writing.

BTW Whoever took a rep point from me, you miserable effer, and left the comment "grow a sense of humour" has obviously never visited the humour board. I am a regular poster there and some of my jokes are even funny. Mind you, funny is a relative term.

shoegirl

Hagar wrote:

I wish to protest the constant tirade against Dublin people on the boards. I believe it constitutes a form of racism. ...Treat Dubliners with the respect with which you would like to be treated.

Its more begrudgery. Most non-Dubliners believe that they are hard done by compared to Dublin when in fact the opposite is actually true. There are country towns that have vastly better commuter bus services than smaller Dublin suburbs, for example. And vast swathes of Dublin have little or no access to services such as public swimming pools, etc, whereas most large country towns have them. Parish-pump politics sees to it that there is a perception that country folk are hard done by. Not the case at all. Dublin gets far less in structural investment per person than the rest of Ireland, and in many years has had far more redundancies per head of population.

Having said that, I've lived outside Dublin for most of the last 8 years and find that many people are surprised at why a Dubliner would want to live in Cork or Wexford or wherever? Its such a shame that so many people from the regions see Dublin as the be-all and end-all. Its not!

combs

FX Meister wrote:

In regard to the general topic, I prefer to live in Dublin rather than the country, if someone asks me this I will admit it, I'm not slagging boggers but I just wouldnt want to live in the country.

Dublin is in Ireland. Ireland is "the country." So you are technically living in the country already.

Zulu

Good christ - no I'm not. I've electricty, running water, and sewage! (Not a septic tank out back.)

pretty-in-pink

seansouth wrote:

I recently had the misfortune to spend some time in the County of Waterford ( I am a Dubliner by the way ).

What I experienced was nothing short or Racism.

One "club" in Dungarvan refused me entry, although many locals were allowed in after me. I was not drunk, I had 2 pints in a pub nearby. When I questioned why I was being refused entry, one of the locals said "Coz you're a jackeen". The gorilla on the door nodded in agreement. :rolleyes:

Also, I was staying with a family just outside of Dungarvan, they were lovely, one of my friends met the daughter when away, very friendly people altogether.

However, my friend's friends' boyfriend ( sorry ), was nothing short of vitriolic in his apparent hatred for Dubs.

He wouldn't talk to us, ignored us in the house, and made smart comments to his mates at every hands turn. Effin' Dubs this, Bleedin Jackeens that.

growl hiss spit stupid dungarvan

everyone ive ever had the misfortune to meet from there or indeed the people who love the town and the people *o so much* are scum and so horrible. drug abusing, child molesting, girlfriend beating, gay bashing, inbred ugly, annoying, stuck up, stupid, heinous cretans.

its a waterford thing in a way. they all think they are better then everyone else cause they win a couple of gaa matches. yankers!

Zulu

Your sig is perfect!

Sarky

Flukey wrote:

Sarky, can we view your calculations?

No.

evilbubbs

im just of the opinion that 95% of IRISH people are complete FUPPETTS
the ones that remain are tolerable at best.

as for generalisations and the like. well lets put it like this, i wouldnt start throwing round names about other ethnic groups, but seeing as its irish people arguing the point, it doesnt matter.

for the record i dont care what any1 says knackers arent an ethnic group that re unique etc, they are people who dont want to live in a settled place full stop. (theres another bunch to pick on if you really want to go for a laugh.)

Flukey

OK Sarky, I suppose we'll have to wait until the full report of your findings has been completed and studied by experts in the field before you can release them to the international media and the world. OK, I can wait.

Big Ears

Flukey wrote:

by experts in the field

What do you mean by that ? .

quad_red

points.

Like all these towns with their fantastic sports facilities and uber transport services.

<chokes on laughter> Towns have hinterlands that they support. Hence (for example) the public pool in tralee does tralee (20,000 plus) and a considerable hinterland. So some people travel great distances to use this facility.

Now, are you telling me that 99% of dubliners aren't more than an hour away from a public pool by public transport (which, incidentally, tralee hasn't yet been graced with).

I live in Dublin. I really like it. But the place (in typical irish fashion) is so badly run. People from outside Dublin see cash cows like the Luas and get resentful but thats always the way. Don't take it seriously.

Lets just all live in peace and harmony.