Religion and the State

AngelofFire

Why is banning sex before marriage wrong? Why is it right

A lot of people would ask the question; since when was authority given to the state to interfer in the sexual practises between two consenting private citizens.

omnicorp

AngelofFire wrote:

A lot of people would ask the question; since when was authority given to the state to interfer in the sexual practises between two consenting private citizens.

It wasn't, but it shouldn't be given to the Church either.
Those Protestants were on the right track, leaving the Catholic Church.
But they went wrong.

AngelofFire

Actually Omnicorp im in the church of ireland myself and my religions attitude towards pre marital sex is not much different to that of the catholic church. Its just that sociological studies show that historically protestants in ireland have been less likely to follow their churches attitude towards pre marital sex.

I dont see anything wrong with pre marital sex humans need practise, we cant just learn how to do it on our wedding night.

omnicorp

AngelofFire wrote:

Actually Omnicorp im in the church of ireland myself and my religions attitude towards pre marital sex is not much different to that of the catholic church. Its just that sociological studies show that historically protestants in ireland have been less likely to follow their churches attitude towards pre marital sex.

I dont see anything wrong with pre marital sex humans need practise, we cant just learn how to do it on our wedding night.

yeah, I don't believe in many Catholic "Laws" buut nor do I believe in Protestant "Laws".
Can someone tell me where in the Bible it tells you to go to Mass every Sunday?

AngelofFire

remember that you keep holy the sabbath day. I think that thats the 3rd commandment.

omnicorp

AngelofFire wrote:

remember that you keep holy the sabbath day. I think that thats the 3rd commandment.

Yes, not sit through ritual bable.

rien_du_tout

Sleepy wrote:

However, laws forcing others to abide by a religeon's customs for any of these holidays is an affront to their personal liberties. Think about it: how would you like to be forced to observe Ramadan?

but when does someone's belief in something stem from religion or not....... if two people believe the same thing, say, that homosexual sex should be outlawed, but 1 has a belief due to his acceptence of his religions line on the issue & the other just thru gut instinct why should 1 the religious mans opinion be disregarded?

The way I see it for too long the institution of the church played a hand directly in politics. Instead it should preach to the people, who on consideration should use their power to promote their religions views on certain issues if they so which. If the majority are a certain religion then certain laws are inevitably going to be based in some part on their religion. Even here in ireland when the churchs power has long faded its effect will still be felt through our christian based moral laws.......... natural law sometimes needs to take charge. whats difficult is finding the balance between our moral rules and our laws......... with regard to a restraint on religious laws while keeping the law firmly based in morals.

Bit hazy and mixed up post sorry, at work & have gone too long without sleep:) Nice to see the regulars I once read a year or two ago still posting!

seán

sliabh

omnicorp wrote:

yeah, I don't believe in many Catholic "Laws" buut nor do I believe in Protestant "Laws".
Can someone tell me where in the Bible it tells you to go to Mass every Sunday?

Take a look at Liviticus [http://www.studyjesus.com/bible/leviticus.htm].

Most of the crazy rules running through Judaeo-Christian religions have their origins there. Everything from stoning adulterers to pig meat is bad. It's an eye opener to read. You will laugh at what is in there.

Well you would if it wasn't for the fact that millions of people around the world think you should live your live according to these 2500 year old rules dreamt up by a backward tribe that thought the world was flat and bad odours caused disease.

omnicorp

It makes you wonder why the Vatican don't clean up the church laws.

sceptre

Was there a real reason to drag up a thread that had no replies in 39 days for that?