Scumbag paralyses child, wants €99 compo back

Sleipnir

Solution - take this subhuman scum to a forest and shoot him once in the back of the head.
From unison.ie



A TEARAWAY teen who knocked down a seven-year-old boy, leaving him in a wheelchair, is trying to claim back the (euro) €99 he has paid in compensation to the victim.

A British court ordered Sajid Hussain to pay Stg£2,555 (€3,327) to Daniel Hennessy, the young Dubliner who has been paralysed since he was hit by a stolen car in Rochdale, Yorkshire.

But he has paid only Stg€67 (€99) and yesterday his solicitor asked a court to return that money and cancel the rest of the award.

Daniel, from Ballymun, has been paralysed from the waist down since he was hit by the stolen car near his grandmother's home in Rochdale in August 2002.

Hussain, who was 16 at the time, was convicted of failing to stop, banned from driving for two years and ordered to pay the compensation.

Yesterday Daniel's grandmother, Bridget O'Connor, said she would fight all the way against the application to have the compensation order quashed.

"I can't let this go," she said. "I want him to suffer the way he made Daniel suffer. I'll do time for him if I have to. That scumbag's making a laugh of us. He doesn't give a damn."

Mrs O'Connor, who is originally from Finglas, recalled how Daniel and his then two-year-old sister Rebecca were on holiday with their mother Debbie at her home in Rochdale when the accident happened.

"Daniel found 10p on the ground and I gave him another 40p to buy toffee for himself and his sister. He was hit as he came out of the shop.

"He got head and spinal injuries and it was touch and go. Three surgeons worked on him."

The boy spent six weeks in hospital in England and a further nine months in hospital in Dublin because of his horrific injuries.

Six months after knocking Daniel down, Hussain was back in court after seriously injuring a lollipop lady in another collision. He served nine months of an 18-month sentence for that offence.

Mrs O'Connor, who has lived in Rochdale for the past 30 years, added: "It seems that Daniel's life is worth nothing."

Daniel's mother Debbie said: "I don't feel anything for the driver, he's a scumbag. I just want to get on with our lives now."

This week Hussain's solicitor told Rochdale magistrates that the original compensation order had not been within the power of magistrates and claimed that such cases involving uninsured drivers should instead be dealt with by the UK's Motor Insurance Bureau. He added his client was also entitled to be reimbursed the €99 he has so far paid.

There was uproar in court when the magistrates agreed to adjourn the case to a date yet to be fixed. The case is now expected to be re-listed in about a month when the Crown Prosecution Service could decide to challenge Hussain's move.

In the meantime, with the help of friends and neighbours' fundraising, Daniel is going to France for pioneering electronic treatment.

The treatments cost over €2,000 at a time and the little boy will need a total of 16 treatments. The aim is to get him to walk with the aid of calipers.

ixoy

Between this scumbag and scumbags suing over slops, my contempt for solicitors is reaching an all time low. Sleipnir's solution has the ring of good old harsh justice to it...

I honestly wonder what goes through the heads of scum like Hussain. Is the notion of responsibility really that hard to grasp? Does he not realize what he's done, how he's destroyed lives? Can anyone fathom how their brains work? Or how a solicitor can take on such a case? Can anyone else see a case now where a solicitor sues on behalf of a client who took candy from a baby because he felt the baby didn't deserve it?

Hobbes

Hope the new case makes him pay more.

KdjaCL

Anyone se his pciture in the paper?

Doesnt look to bothered at all.

kdjac

jill_valentine

I say he gets paid back. I say we insert 99 euro coins into him in various creative and appropriately distressing ways.

Kone

jill_valentine wrote:

I say he gets paid back. I say we insert 99 euro coins into him in various creative and appropriately distressing ways.

I agree, but let's make it 50c pieces instead, 198 round 50c pieces!

koneko

I'm sorry, I know it's not politically correct but I hope to God some vigilante gang beats him to within an inch of his life. What a scumbag.

Mossy Monk

koneko wrote:

I'm sorry, I know it's not politically correct but I hope to God some vigilante gang beats him to within an inch of his life. What a scumbag.

good plan. i heard about this a little while ago. it is unbelievable

dub45

ixoy wrote:

Between this scumbag and scumbags suing over slops, my contempt for solicitors is reaching an all time low. Sleipnir's solution has the ring of good old harsh justice to it...

I honestly wonder what goes through the heads of scum like Hussain. Is the

I honestly wonder what goes through the heads of solicitors who take on these cases? While obviously everyone is entitled to some form of representation I think solicitors as a group really need think about what they do.

I was thinking a lot about this recently when I saw the defence put forward by a solicitor on behalf of the guys who beat to death a man in limerick w while ago. The murder happened in a public park late at night.

He had over 200 blows and injuries to his body, if I recall, he must have really got an awful death and by all accounts was a kind caring man. The solicitor put forward a 'defence' along the lines that his client had been provoked because he saw the murdered man perform a sexual act with another man! Not with his client mind you but with another man!!!! Nor was it claimed that had his client been approached by this man. Now a presumably intelligent educated guy was willing to destroy a man's reputation in an attempt to get this scumbag off! Its incredibly really.

Again if I recall correctly one of these guys had absconded from jail and the other was out on bail!

ixoy

koneko wrote:

I'm sorry, I know it's not politically correct but I hope to God some vigilante gang beats him to within an inch of his life. What a scumbag.

Here's a piccie in case any gangs are reading:

How hurt must the family be to see that picture? It reminds me of that Limerick scum two-fingering the media as he walked away from a court too terrified to testify.

jill_valentine

What a charmer...

Re: Lawyers. I've come to the conclusion that they actually aren't real people at all. They just don't think like we do.

"How do you sleep at night?"

"On a big pile of money..."

Gizzard

Sleipnir wrote:

Solution - take this subhuman scum to a forest and shoot him once in the back of the head.
From unison.ie
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Can you shoot the human garbage lawyer while your at it also

Gizzard

on the subject of lawyers I really think they live in their won lawver world, for example I was shopping around for a lawer recently over half of them would not give me even a general price to do some standard paperwork, i was only looking for a ballpark figue, they were really shocked that i would even ask.

this lawyer in this particular case is beyond scum

grumpytrousers

FIRSTLY. Don't deny that Sajid Hussain and his brief are indeed somewhat below scum.

QUESTION. Whose fault was the f*** up that's given him the leeway to mount this appeal. Jesus wept - i mean, isn't there some class of a system that you knock somebody down and are liable and should pay damages then the magistrates KNOW how much they can fine you and if they cant' fine you enough they boot the case on to a higher court...

Most of these 'scum getting off on a technicality' cases tend to (whether we like it or not) be attributable to a screw up by either the prosecutor or the police...(cf Circuit court judges, child porn, out of date search warrent)

Again, I don't for a second say that that yer mans application here is morally right or anything...morally and legally are *edit* NOT bedfellows, but it's a point that needs to be made...

Paladin

koneko wrote:

I'm sorry, I know it's not politically correct but I hope to God some vigilante gang beats him to within an inch of his life....

...and then take that inch!

Gizzard

bullet in the head is too good for him, perhaps cripple him also, break his fingers and arms, then couple of months later, shoot him in the head

ionapaul

An old roommate in the States' father was a lawyer there - had to give up after a few years. He just couldn't go on defending murderers, rapists, and other scumbags he knew to be guilty. Couldn't live with himself doing that. I know a good few trained lawyers who had to stop because of that reason.
This lawyer, the lawyer in Limerick, and the vast majority of lawyers are in it for the money and don't give a rat's ass about justice or morality. One of the reasons why I cannot watch or hear Ivana Bacik or her ilk anymore without losing it - the 'criminals are the real victims' lobby make me want to become a criminal myself!
If only we could have the perfect state, ruled by a wise king who would make all decisions...I nominate myself*

*should point out that I would be forced to execute a few thousand 'undesirables' at the beginning of my otherwise peaceful reign

Scruff

I believe lawyers were accurately protrayed for what they really are in the film Devil's Advocate. :eek:

And dont mind this jail crap where they can hone their skills and get addicted to drugs. Bring in gulags and make them work for their crimes!

DukeDredd

Just shows that the laws are on the side of the scumbag criminals and not the decent law abiding citizens. If i get 2 penalty points for speeding, appeal it in a court and lose i end up with 4. Joyriders have the right to appeal and have nothing to lose, and alot of the time get away with it over and over.

If i was related to that poor kid, that Hussain guy would be lying in intensive care with every bone in his body crushed. Shooting someone like that in the head is too good for them - too quick and painless.

l3rian

And dont mind this jail crap where they can hone their skills and get addicted to drugs. Bring in gulags and make them work for their crimes!

that would be the best thing ever, but instead of sending to siberia, they could be send to mayo or donegal to a huge cheaply built prison camp with unlimited spaces

if the government held a refendum on this tomorrow, it would pass

imagine the satisfaction of driving past a long line of scumbags, all chained together with orange suits on, cleaning the roads or some other hard labour

im sure this happens in the usa, they really know how to threat scumbags

Gizzard

DukeDredd wrote:

Just shows that the laws are on the side of the scumbag criminals and not the decent law abiding citizens. If i get 2 penalty points for speeding, appeal it in a court and lose i end up with 4. Joyriders have the right to appeal and have nothing to lose, and alot of the time get away with it over and over.

If i was related to that poor kid, that Hussain guy would be lying in intensive care with every bone in his body crushed. Shooting someone like that in the head is too good for them - too quick and painless.

yeah i agree, life is to shot for this kind of ****

Mossy Monk

l3rian wrote:

driving past a long line of scumbags, all chained together with orange suits on, cleaning the roads or some other hard labour

that would be a dream come true

Blisterman

Sajid Hussien
Wonder if he's related to Saddam.

Deadwing

Gulags are too good even for this type of filth.
My vote goes with concentration camps. That motherf*cker would be first in line for a nice relaxing shower. In zyklon b. Id shove his fu*king 99 euro down his neck and gas the scum.
I mean seriously, concentration camps were an outrage when they were used to kill millions of innocents, but would anyone really shed a tear if we rounded up guttercrawling filth like this and put an end to them?? Whod miss them?? Society certainly wouldnt.

HashSlinging

I'd love to give some money towards his treatment, any ideas where.

Winters

Bring back the old fashoned ways. Public stonings.... i have some nice stones i could sell you.

egan007

pure and utter scum
it will be a crying shame if he gets a penny

egan007

Winters wrote:

.... i have some nice stones i could sell you.

....Na, they have them lying on the ground,



.....life of brian plot evolving?

Renegade_Archer

Those perps taking legal action claiming their human rights have been violated.... what about the human rights of their victims?? We should introduce hard labour, instead of 10 years sitting in their cells watching tv and doing leaving cert courses they should get 10 years breaking rocks in the cavan wastelands.


And yes, driving by a line of chained perps cleaning the road would give me a certain sense of satisfaction. They have taken away from society, they should give back.

Winters

egan007 wrote:

.....life of brian plot evolving?

Are there any women here?

ionapaul

Heard of Joe Arpaio, America's toughest sheriff?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

Knows how to treat criminals (would probably send Ivana and her cronies into a fit). We need a Joe of our own.

HashSlinging

Renegade_Archer wrote:

Those perps

you got my vote.

Blisterman

I think chain gangs would be a great idea.
And for shoplifters, those "I am a shoplifter" signs.
Public humiliation is good.

l3rian

Are there any women here?

are there any women here today?

orangerooster

Run them up and down crowe patrick several times a day in nothing but Abu Grahbe(sic) hoods-then showers fluxuating wildly between scalding heat and freezing cold.That'd sort most of the scum out the ones it fails on can be "processed" queitely and inexpensively.

grumpytrousers

orangerooster wrote:

Run them up and down crowe patrick several times a day in nothing but Abu Grahbe(sic) hoods-then showers fluxuating wildly between scalding heat and freezing cold.That'd sort most of the scum out the ones it fails on can be "processed" queitely and inexpensively.

Aye, and if any of 'em mention Jehovah....

Sleipnir

l3rian wrote:

are there any women here today?

I always wanted that get-up for fancy dress and the like.
Or even just to walk down grafton st in with a BT bag and serious look on my face.

skywalker

Winters wrote:

Bring back the old fashoned ways. Public stonings.... i have some nice stones i could sell you.

alright. ill take 3 flats and a packet of gravel.

cilamc

"Sub-human scum"?

"I hope he is made to suffer the way our son was made to suffer"?

"Public humiliation is good"?

"Publc stonings" (I bet you weren't even joking....)?

You're advocates of a just and tolerant society, are you?

Are you bloody idiots or what?

Have you ever considered even for a moment that some of the ideas you put around CONTRIBUTE to the culture of crime?

Ok so it's a heck of a cheek that the guy resposible for the accident is trying to claim back compensation, but for once and for all IT IS A LEGAL PROCESS AND THE NEWSPAPERS WHO PRINT THIS INFLAMMATORY NONSENSE ARE OF MORE DETRIMENT TO SOCIETY THAN ANY SINGLE BLOODY HOOLIGAN.

When oh when will the readers of tabloid newspapers, the middle class chatterers and the people who DO NOT LIVE IN DEPRIVED AREAS and therefore do not know what it is like to grow up in a place where the likelihood of ending up in prison outweighs the chance of getting a decent education learn to bloody well shut up or think before they speak?!

P.S. Wasn't the whole point of that scene in "Life of Brian" a satire about the type of people who dictate law and decide "who may cast the first stone"? Just a thought.

ionapaul

You're right. The criminal is the real victim here. Jail, fines, and reprimands of any kind are counter-productive, they only make the criminal-victim feel worse and adds to his/her detatchment from society. Criminal-victims need to be cherished and have additional resources spent on them to prevent society from forcing them to commit crimes (which are merely signs of society's failings after all). Forced redistribution of wealth will solve society's problems and eliminate the misfortune of the criminal-victim.

cilamc

ionapaul wrote:

Criminal-victims need to be cherished and have additional resources spent on them to prevent society from forcing them to commit crimes (which are merely signs of society's failings after all).

Hmmnnn. Multipy my sentiment 1,000 times and you can come up with nicely ironic counter-argument, eh?

Of course I'm not suggesting the "cherishing" of "criminal-victims" (whatever that might be). What I am in favour of is intelligent debate and not tabloid hysteria or people smugly commenting on how "the scumbags are ruining society" and need to be "shot in the back of the head" or "kicked to death" or some other such horror. It seems some people are incapable of debate unless things are made black or white (i.e. "let's round them all up and shoot them" vs. "let's release them from the prisons and send them on a nice holiday"). It's exactly the kind of guff you hear on inane radio phone ins and in The Sun/The Mirror/The Evening Herald.

How about getting rid of ideas of people as "scum" in the first place. At most the boy responsible in this case is an uneducated, ill-mannered teenager with lots to learn about life. Yes, a spell in prison may be useful if it's rehabilitative. Let's drop the "let's torture him because we're oh-so-well-adjusted moral bastions" claptrap.

ferdi

+ = Justice

ionapaul

I definitely don't think anyone should be tortured. Executed as painlessly as possible, yes, tortured just for the sake of it, no.
Got to admit I am fine with the concept of 'scum' - it is certainly something I believe in. I do not see everyone as having equal worth. Some are better than others*. This may be down to many factors INDEPENDENT of how or where they were brought up, but rather due to genetic factors such as pre-dispositions to violence, etc...

*not saying I am any better than any specific individual or indeed the general population

passive

good imput from cilamc... the rest of you are acting like complete children. yes, the guy should have recieved proper punishment through the legal system (something remotely proportional to the devestation he caused) and he should be forced to pay the full compensation, not to mention not get a f*cking cent back. that goes without saying and it's screwed up that he pretty much gets away with it. but you can't just scream "kill him, break his legs, viciously torture him in new and incredibly painful ways" because you've been shocked by what the guy did... it's completely reactionist and insane!

This may be down to many factors INDEPENDENT of how or where they were brought up, but rather due to genetic factors such as pre-dispositions to violence, etc...

you've gotta be joking, right? it's blatantly and undenyable clear that there are larger amounts of crime in poor/deprived areas but you're saying you choose to disregard that, it's all lefty crap, kill the criminals. yes, you have to punish people & prevent them from commiting crimes in the future (rehabilitation, prison, supervision, whatever, etc) but you also have to deal with the causes of all these problems! as climanc said, this modern day scum and people like him "grow up in places where the likelihood of ending up in prison outweighs the chance of getting a decent education" or similar circumstance. that's screwed up...

yeah the guys an absolute bastard... my first reaction is slit his throat, shoot him in the face, blow him up, all that crap..but it's not the proper reaction, people shouldn't end up like that. I/you/we have been raised right and have properly developed senses of right and wrong and responsibility and social obligation. Not everyone else grew up the same way... they didn't decide, from the same kind of mind you were in: "oh, i know..today i'll be an absolute scumbag, rob stuff and kill people"... circumstances forced people that way.. the people in charge and we, the people who put them there, need to fix the city & world around us so people like that are the exception rather than the expectation in all areas...

ferdi

chill man, i'm being ironic

passive

hey, i gave no mention to your picture , that was mostly to ionapaul and the general impression from all previous posts...

ionapaul

passive wrote:

yeah the guys an absolute bastard... my first reaction is slit his throat, shoot him in the face, blow him up, all that crap..but it's not the proper reaction, people shouldn't end up like that.

Funny, I think most people feel like that but I rarely feel the desire to inflict pain or suffering 'just for the sake of it' on these people. I would just want what I define as justice visited upon them, be it a lengthy and extremely restrictive prison sentence or painfree execution, rather than an ultimately unsuccessful attempt at rehabilitation or re-engagement with society. I suppose that might be a more cold and calculating view that most hold.

Calibos

Yes, we should try to eliminate the root causes of the 'scum' mentality. ie alleviate poverty, better education etc etc etc but for the current generation the die has been cast. They are scum and will always be scum and deserve the kind of treatment that a joyrider got in England a few years back. He was nailed to a fence at the side of a road. There was uproar at the time, what a disgrace, inhuman treatment etc etc. Couldn't help but smile and say to myself that the f*cker deserved it.

Why do you joyride?

Cause ders nuttin ta do around here!

What about the bowling alley, youth club, amusement arcade, snooker club, football pitches etc etc

Sure, I'm barred from all a dem!

All of them?

Yeah, I stabbed some hippy for his mobile in da bowling alley, beat up a youth leader in da youth club cause he told me not ta sniff me lighar fluit in de jacks, I set fire to a bin in the snooker club, pulled down da goalposts wih me pony before I shoved a quater stick up its arse for a laugh...............



Yeah poor scum, nothing to do

cilamc

I kinda hope the majority of posts in this thread were ironic, if not it paints a fairly depressing picture of the level of debate on this board!

And I agree with you Passive - except your typo "cilmanc" which would be a particularly ironic name for me given the discussion! I have no desire to kill Mancunians.

grumpytrousers

I f***ing hate to have to quote Tony Blair, but he kinda had the right idea when he said that you don't just attack crime, but also the causes of crime. I'm not sure that impaling joy-riders on fences actually has as much of an effect on crime figures as some on this board would like to think.

Leave your blood lust sated, perhaps. But what will your bloodlust demand when the 'mob' decides to punish a rapist? A Child molestor? A Murderer. A Thief. A thief who molests kids and then kills 'em....

get real folks....

jill_valentine

Good points. It's frustrating, and nice to vent that frustration, but yeah, you guys are right. A society is defined by how it treats its lowest members right? Just took a few steps to the Brass Eye side of the force...