CCCP Tshirts

Waestrel

I wear this because I think its cool even though I have no knowledge of what it means or stands for!

Anyone with me!

Seraphina

err isn't that something to do with the soviet empire or something?
methinks the letters stand for something in russian.

and no im not with you, because tbh from your posts so far, you sound like a bit of a pretentious prat

Healio

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics = USSR
the russian version is CCCP

Gordon

An ex (Russian) girlfriend of mine used to abhorr people wearing these shirts because they had either no idea what it meant or why they were wearing it.

CCCP = Russia, but it could be the old Russia I really have no idea.
the letters sound like S S S R - not as we say C C C P. Therefore the last S and R are Soviet Republic afaik.

Personally, I find it mad that you would want to wear something that you have no idea what it means. I used to have a Tshirt with Arabic on it and people would come up to me asking if I knew what it meant (they spoke Arabic) but I did know!

So... you like Russia do you? What is it about Russia that you like?

ah there you go, Healio proves me wrong

Jivin Turkey

One of my t-shirts says "Jack and Jones" what does that stand for?

tribble

Seraphina wrote:

err isn't that something to do with the soviet empire or something?
methinks the letters stand for something in russian.

and no im not with you, because tbh from your posts so far, you sound like a bit of a pretentious prat

Yup, she's right on both counts.
As Helio said USSR = CCCP
I can understand some American kids wearing them to piss of their 'red under the beds' fearing parents - but not Europeans.

Healio

Jivin Turkey wrote:

One of my t-shirts says "Jack and Jones" what does that stand for?

I think they were senior figures in the CCCP.

tribble

Jack Jones, the son of a docker, was born in Liverpool in 1913. The family were very poor and after leaving school at fourteen worked as an engineering apprentice. Jones joined the Labour Party and the Amalgamated Society of Engineers (AEU) and soon became involved in union activities.

Converted to socialism by reading The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell. Jones later explained how the book "was passed from hand to hand among people in the Labour movement and had a remarkable effect on our thinking." In 1931 Jones became secretary of the Liverpool Labour College and used extracts from books by authors such as Tressell, Karl Marx, Frederick Engels, G. H. Wells, James Connolly, Robert Blatchford to educate young people.

Jones joined the Labour Party and the Amalgamated Society of Engineers (AEU) and soon became involved in union activities. After the Wall Street Crash Jones lost his job but was eventually able to find employment with a firm of signmakers and painters. Later he joined his father as a Liverpool docker. He became a member of the Transport and General Workers Union (TGWU) and was elected as a shop steward and was a delegate on the National Docks Group Committee.

A strong opponent of Oswald Mosley and the National Union of Fascists, Jones organized protest-meetings against the fascists holding meetings in Liverpool. On one occasion he was beaten up by a group of Blackshirts armed with knuckle-dusters.

After the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War Jones became active in the Aid Spain campaign in Liverpool. After hearing a speech given by Paul Robeson in June 1937, Jones decided to join the International Brigades. Jones fought for many months before being seriously wounded at Ebro in July 1938.

When Jones returned to England he became a full-time official of the Transport and General Workers Union (TGWU) in Coventry. During the Second World War he helped to keep the city's munitions industry working through the Blitz.

After the war Jones served as the Regional Secretary of the TGWU and was responsible for organizing the work force in the car industry in the Midlands.

In 1968 Jones was elected General Secretary of the TGWU, a position he held for nine years. He was also a leading figure of the Trade Union Congress and was its principal spokesman on international and economic matters. In 1977 he gave the BBC Dimbleby Lecture.

Jones was also Vice-President of the International Transport Workers Federation and since retiring from the TGWU has been a campaigner for pensioners' rights. His autobiography, Union Man, was published in 1986.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SPjonesJ.htm

Healio

oh it mite be a bit late, but is this the right forum??

tribble

I don't think there is a pinko liberal forum - so i posted here

Healio

tribble wrote:

I don't think there is a pinko liberal forum - so i posted here

i was talking more about the first post.

rainbow kirby

Fashion/Appearance anyone?

ChRoMe

Its the same ignorance that allows people to wear Che Guevera t-shirts as something thats cool. If anyone actually looks a the concept closely its bizzare. A rebel who was a symbol of communism in its extreme is now being merchandised and sold as t-shirts and posters to middle class people. Its kinda funny and sad at the same time. Thats without even getting into the fact that Che wasnt really doing anything other than picking fights he couldnt win and managed to fail at recruiting even one bolivian.

ChRoMe

fletch

Jivin Turkey wrote:

One of my t-shirts says "Jack and Jones" what does that stand for?

You are advertising the shop & paying for the privelege.... :rolleyes:

Jim

ChRoMe wrote:

Its the same ignorance that allows people to wear Che Guevera t-shirts as something thats cool. If anyone actually looks a the concept closely its bizzare. A rebel who was a symbol of communism in its extreme is now being merchandised and sold as t-shirts and posters to middle class people. Its kinda funny and sad at the same time. Thats without even getting into the fact that Che wasnt really doing anything other than picking fights he couldnt win and managed to fail at recruiting even one bolivian.

ChRoMe

Its the same as anything really, if you try to make a stand against anything it eventually becomes marketed.

There was a punk/metal type guy (can't remember his name) in the 80's, he recorded a song which basically was sounds of war and screaming etc... mixed with clips from Pespi commercials. 10 years later he was approaced by Pepsi asking could they use the song in a commercial.

beardedchicken

in the worst twist of irony possible, i saw some che guevara tshirts in the men's section of dunnes stores recently. eeeeuch!

rainbow kirby

Uh-oh. Spaghetti-oh's.

Third_Echelon

As for the original poster... shut the hell up please... roisch!!

I have to say the whole che t-shirt thing really annoys me..

My brother was in a band that played rage against the machine songs and they all had these che shirts... I asked them who he was.. they knew his name but they didnt actually know who he was or what he did...

I thought it was a bit stupid to wear something like that, when you really haven't got a clue what it means or stands for... in fact it could go totally against what you actually stand for or believe in!!!

Admitingly, I didn't know a whole lot about che etc, so I actually got a book and read about him and his struggles etc... If more people would do that the better... In fact the only way you should be able to get one of these t-shirts is by buying the book...

MatthewVII

Since when did your clothes have to define your viewpoints? Why can't somebody just wear a Che Guevara tshirt just because its a famous picture and they think it looks good? I'm not one of those ppl myself, but i feel that people who look down on others for wearing such apparel are just being overly pedantic and need to find something better to do with their lives.

Third_Echelon

MatthewVII wrote:

Since when did your clothes have to define your viewpoints?

They dont have to... they usually do... mods, rockers, hippies, goths etc etc...
These people dress in a certain way, which makes a statement about them. Usually, but not always, a political viewpoint or thought process/frame of mind is attached to that group of people...

MatthewVII wrote:

Why can't somebody just wear a Che Guevara tshirt just because its a famous picture and they think it looks good?

you're taking the p1ss, right?

Because its misinformed... lets pretend i know nothing about hitler.. is it ok for me to wear a t-shirt with his face on it then, just because its a famous picture?

People would then think i was some sort of nazi, wouldn't they?

MatthewVII wrote:

I'm not one of those ppl myself, but i feel that people who look down on others for wearing such apparel are just being overly pedantic and need to find something better to do with their lives.

yawn... :rolleyes:

OfflerCrocGod

Third_Echelon wrote:

you're taking the p1ss, right?

Because its misinformed... lets pretend i know nothing about hitler.. is it ok for me to wear a t-shirt with his face on it then, just because its a famous picture?

So you think people should take a degree in "Clothes Symbology" before they have the right to buy and wear what they think is good/nice/trendy? Cop on.

Waestrel

omg lol :rolleyes:

u ppl shud relax!!! :eek:

just becasue i wear a shirt with a picture, letters, anything on it, it dont mean that i support what it stands for. its just fashion!! :cool:

but anyways, the cccp was not that bad. it never got a chance becuase of the USA.

neGev

Tell that to the millions of people culled by Joseph Stalin et al.

Waestrel

next time i see them.

They got the first man in space. Gagarin is king! LOL! if he wasnt killed four years later in a test plane crash.

Jim

Waestrel wrote:

but anyways, the cccp was not that bad. it never got a chance becuase of the USA.

I don't know why I'm pointing out this comment. I just felt I had to.

Jim

I don't usually make, rash insults with little basis.

But you sir, are a moron.

Waestrel

You're very perceptive

neGev

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

I don't usually make, rash insults with little basis.

But you sir, are a moron.

Concur, the USSR might have put Gagarin into space but the communists killed (directly and indirectly) millions upon of their own people and fúcked up the country for years and years to come. Pick up a history book before making comments about the greatness of the USSR.

Third_Echelon

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

So you think people should take a degree in "Clothes Symbology" before they have the right to buy and wear what they think is good/nice/trendy? Cop on.

i didnt say that. i said they should actually know something about what they are promoting before they splash it across their chest... doesn't that make sense to you?

Are you telling me that you would buy a t-shirt with a symbol or face of a person without actually not knowing about its meaning?

That my friend is stupid.. cop on to yourself...

Third_Echelon

Waestrel wrote:

omg lol :rolleyes:

u ppl shud relax!!! :eek:

just becasue i wear a shirt with a picture, letters, anything on it, it dont mean that i support what it stands for. its just fashion!! :cool:

but anyways, the cccp was not that bad. it never got a chance becuase of the USA.

again so its ok to wear a hitler t-shirt because i think he looked really cool.. and oh my god that moustache looks really good on a t-shirt.... unfortunately if you said to someone that 'its just fashion', you wouldn't get away with it im afraid...

are you a comedian or something? or just a fool? russia didn't get a chance because of the USA.. that has to go down as quote of the day.... nice one

OfflerCrocGod

Third_Echelon wrote:

i didnt say that. i said they should actually know something about what they are promoting before they splash it across their chest... doesn't that make sense to you?

Yes it does, but that's me most people couldn't give a fuc5 and frankly I don't see the problem with that. Welcome to the West, land of the Ignorant and Rich; buy what you want wear what you want.

Third_Echelon wrote:

Are you telling me that you would buy a t-shirt with a symbol or face of a person without actually not knowing about its meaning?

Nope, but I won't give out to people who do, what difference is it to me? These people aren't out on the streets marching to bring back the CCCP, they are just out wearing what they believe looks good on them. I'm sure your clothes have symbols that you may *never* understand, it's not keeping you or me up at night worring about it, now is it?

Third_Echelon wrote:

That my friend is stupid.. cop on to yourself...

It's on my to do list

Jim

I'd rather be fat than be confused.

People are told what looks good. Range A of clothing is now in fashion, pick out something that looks good on you. I generally don't like tshirts with writing on them, band tshirts being the exception.

Think I'll get that "Hitler Bad, Vandels Good" tshirt.

Third_Echelon

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Yes it does, but that's me most people couldn't give a fuc5 and frankly I don't see the problem with that. Welcome to the West, land of the Ignorant and Rich; buy what you want wear what you want.

thats no excuse...

If you are trying to make a statement by wearing some symbol etc, then fair enough. If not you are just a bit mad...

i just think its silly to do something like that. if more people paid attention to this the world may be a better place...

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Nope, but I won't give out to people who do, what difference is it to me? These people aren't out on the streets marching to bring back the CCCP, they are just out wearing what they believe looks good on them.

It doesn't make a lot of difference to me either, but i just think people who do are silly...

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

I'm sure your clothes have symbols that you may *never* understand, it's not keeping you or me up at night worring about it, now is it?

haven't you been reading my posts or something???

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

It's on my to do list

glad to hear it...

OfflerCrocGod

Third_Echelon wrote:

thats no excuse...

It is, they are not breaking the law so ignorance is a fine defence.

Third_Echelon wrote:

If you are trying to make a statement by wearing some symbol etc, then fair enough. If not you are just a bit mad...

So when you buy these kinda clothes you afto make a statement else your "just a bit mad..." Ye. OK. Whatever.

Third_Echelon wrote:

i just think its silly to do something like that. if more people paid attention to this the world may be a better place...

How??? Is that person wearing that CCCP t-shirt or that Che t-shirt or whatever t-shirt oppressing me, harassing me, harming me in some form I can't see?! No. So why the fück should I oppress them in their choice of clothes!! Oh, right they are morons because they don't know what they are wearing - sorry forgot about that, lets round them up and burn their clothes.....the trendy, clueless assholes. How dare they.

Third_Echelon wrote:

It doesn't make a lot of difference to me either, but i just think people who do are silly...

So we agree on that.

Third_Echelon wrote:

haven't you been reading my posts or something???

I have......and??......

Mr Nightingale

i'm with Waestrel. i sport a cccp t-shirt cos i hear that communism is all about sharing and caring. plus the one i have shows off the bod and if that doesn't get the ladies i throw them the old stories about me and my captaining the winning team of the Leinster Schools Rugby Senior Cup team. in like flynn!

Third_Echelon

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

It is, they are not breaking the law so ignorance is a fine defence.

Ignorance is never an excuse...

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

So when you buy these kinda clothes you afto make a statement else your "just a bit mad..." Ye. OK. Whatever.

what are you trying to say here?

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

How??? Is that person wearing that CCCP t-shirt or that Che t-shirt or whatever t-shirt oppressing me, harassing me, harming me in some form I can't see?! No. So why the fück should I oppress them in their choice of clothes!! Oh, right they are morons because they don't know what they are wearing - sorry forgot about that, lets round them up and burn their clothes.....the trendy, clueless assholes. How dare they.

Again, I am not talking about you in particular. You dont seem to care to much, nor do I.

I didnt say that they were opressing me or anybody. Im not saying people shouldn't wear them. All i am saying is that they should know a bit about what they are promoting across their chest... thats all..

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

So we agree on that.

Yes

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

I have......and??......

good boy...

Third_Echelon

Mr Nightingale wrote:

i'm with Waestrel. i sport a cccp t-shirt cos i hear that communism is all about sharing and caring. plus the one i have shows off the bod and if that doesn't get the ladies i throw them the old stories about me and my captaining the winning team of the Leinster Schools Rugby Senior Cup team. in like flynn!

ya. ok. roisch. thank you for your input <insert random irish name>... :rolleyes:

Intel

i'm with Waestrel. i sport a cccp t-shirt cos i hear that communism is all about sharing and caring

In an ideal world that is what it would mean but unfortunately for ppl living under it, it means fear and oppression.

We in the west are lucky to be living in a free world - people are free to wear whatever clothes/t-shirts with whatever symbols on them they want. However, a bit of sense is required, dont wear a Bin Laden t-shirt and go parading around New York or wear a Hitler t-shirt and walk into a synagogue. And for heaven's sake, find out what any symbol means before wearing it - have a bit of respect for people who understand what it means and may be offended by it before you head out!

OfflerCrocGod

Third_Echelon wrote:

All i am saying is that they should know a bit about what they are promoting across their chest... thats all..

How can they be promoting something if they don't know what this writing/symbol means? They must be very special people. You see that's my point they are not promoting anything, they don't care what the slogan means - all they care is that it looks good. Do you really believe people going around with CCCP t-shirts are agitating for the overtrow of our goverment? Anyway this is going nowhere to me this is a free country and people should be able to wear what they want when they want you feel differently and I don't think we will agree on this so I'm quitting this nationally important argument and I'm going to the Slydice special thread. Bye

Third_Echelon

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

How can they be promoting something if they don't know what this writing/symbol means?

They must be very special people. You see that's my point they are not promoting anything, they don't care what the slogan means - all they care is that it looks good.

by wearing it on your tshirt... if you are wearing a soccer jersey for example and it has a sponsor, you are promoting that sponsor by the very nature of you wearing that shirt... eircom, vodafone, O2, emirates airlines, chang beer... promotion, sponsorship etc etc...

anytime you buy a tshirt with GAP or diesel or whatever, that is free promotion of that company by you, and you are paying the privelage of doing it for them.... even if you dont know what it means.... :rolleyes:

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Do you really believe people going around with CCCP t-shirts are agitating for the overtrow of our goverment? Anyway this is going nowhere to me this is a free country and people should be able to wear what they want when they want you feel differently and I don't think we will agree on this so I'm quitting this nationally important argument and I'm going to the Slydice special thread. Bye

some people just cant stand it when they lose an argument or discussion... makes me think that you never believed in your points in the first place... :cool:

OfflerCrocGod

Third_Echelon wrote:

some people just cant stand it when they lose an argument or discussion... makes me think that you never believed in your points in the first place... :cool:

Your just not reading what I post people who buy GAP t-shirts may know what GAP is, people who wear CCCP t-shirts may not know what it means and are just wearing it because they like the look. I like those american basketball/baseball t-shirts and I go and buy one that has the name of some team on it - according to your logic I'm all of a sudden a fan of this team? I couldn't give a flying **** how the team does all I care is that the t-shirt looks good. You don't go out shopping looking to promote some cause you go out shopping looking for something that you believe will look good on you. Jesus I can't see the difficulty in that argument! Maybe you think "I wonder what cause I will support today" when picking clothes but the rest of us think things like "I wonder if my ass looks big in this*" Pretty simple idea.



* well women do anyway

Third_Echelon

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Your just not reading what I post people who buy GAP t-shirts may know what GAP is, people who wear CCCP t-shirts may not know what it means and are just wearing it because they like the look.

We were just talking about promotion in the last reply. I was explaining how someone could be promoting a brand etc simply by wearing it. By the very nature of wearing the label you are promoting it. Someone walking down the street will see that label or brand and think 'oh yeah i was gonna buy a jumper... thats a nice GAP jumper....'

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

I like those american basketball/baseball t-shirts and I go and buy one that has the name of some team on it - according to your logic I'm all of a sudden a fan of this team?

No thats not what i said. I said that by wearing that shirt with its sponsors etc on it you are promoting the sponsors.. you cant deny that... theres nothing wrong with buying a shirt of a sports team that you like. You mightn't know a whole lot about them, but you have some interest in the team. Maybe just perhaps because you like their colours...

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Maybe you think "I wonder what cause I will support today" when picking clothes but the rest of us think things like "I wonder if my ass looks big in this*" Pretty simple idea.

I haven't bought an irish soccer shirt in about 10 years... not because i dont like the shirts.. its because i hate EIRCOM... i dont want to promote something i hate... simple

OfflerCrocGod

Third_Echelon wrote:

We were just talking about promotion in the last reply. I was explaining how someone could be promoting a brand etc simply by wearing it. By the very nature of wearing the label you are promoting it. Someone walking down the street will see that label or brand and think 'oh yeah i was gonna buy a jumper... thats a nice GAP jumper....'

That's nowhere near the same as someone looking at someone wearing a CCCP t-shirt thinking "time for a revolution!!" and you know that. People going around wearing CCCP t-shirts wear them because they like them not because they agree with the politics or ideals of it, just like your Che example. In the end I just can't see the problem if *they* ( the people who are wearing the clothes ) like it; why should I have a problem with? It might seem amazing to you that people might wear GAP stuff because they like it but you've got to realise that GAP was once an unknow name. To build up a brand takes time and people were buying their clothes over that time for a reason! In the end it's people like clothes == people buy and wear them. It's a simple equation and I don't think we should change it so that people afto go and get educated before buying their clothes.

Third_Echelon wrote:

I haven't bought an irish soccer shirt in about 10 years... not because i dont like the shirts.. its because i hate EIRCOM... i dont want to promote something i hate... simple

I haven't bought one because they look like crap. I don't care what name is written on the front of it, they simply look like **** and they cost a fortune. If someone buys it though it's not to support €ircon it's to support Ireland. When people see the t-shirt they think "an Ireland supporter" not "an Eircom supporter"

Third_Echelon

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

That's nowhere near the same as someone looking at someone wearing a CCCP t-shirt thinking "time for a revolution!!" and you know that. People going around wearing CCCP t-shirts wear them because they like them not because they agree with the politics or ideals of it, just like your Che example.

But by wearing it you are inherintly promoting the ideals of that symbol. The USSR is long gone and its gone for a reason. It wasn't a great regime and they were a bunch of communists... what's cool about that?

Sure what the hell, i like the look of the swastika, why shouldn't i wear that on a t-shirt.. it looks really cool... the hell with everybody else.. as long as it looks good on me, why should i care???

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

In the end I just can't see the problem if *they* ( the people who are wearing the clothes ) like it;

As it could cause offence to others perhaps?

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

It might seem amazing to you that people might wear GAP stuff because they like it but you've got to realise that GAP was once an unknow name. To build up a brand takes time and people were buying their clothes over that time for a reason! In the end it's people like clothes == people buy and wear them. It's a simple equation and I don't think we should change it so that people afto go and get educated before buying their clothes.

I agree, GAP do make good stuff and people do buy it because they like it. In the last example i was talking about promotion of the brand. Its hacking at your sub-conscious. The more times you see a GAP symbol, the stronger the brand recognition is in your head...

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

I haven't bought one because they look like crap. I don't care what name is written on the front of it, they simply look like **** and they cost a fortune. If someone buys it though it's not to support €ircon it's to support Ireland. When people see the t-shirt they think "an Ireland supporter" not "an Eircom supporter"

But dont you see that by buying an irish soccer shirt you ARE promoting eircom.. you have no choice in the matter... its there slapped across the front of the shirt...

First and foremost you buy it because you are an irish supporter.

Jivin Turkey

fletch wrote:

You are advertising the shop & paying for the privelege.... :rolleyes:

Well at least Im getting a t-shirt to keep me warm. Which was the intention when I bought the t-shirt. The fact that it is a decent t-shirt makes it all the better.

Also I find it quite ironic this statement comes from someone with a BMW logo in their signature. But Im sure you receive plenty of benefit from this advertising a kin to me actually having a t-shirt to wear.

Im off now to go search through my wardrobe to ensure that Im not sporting any strange signs/writing "promoting" some awful ideals. Oh wait, no Im not, I couldnt give a bollox, they are just clothes.

OfflerCrocGod

Jivin Turkey wrote:

Im off now to go search through my wardrobe to ensure that Im not sporting any strange signs/writing "promoting" some awful ideals. Oh wait, no Im not, I couldnt give a bollox, they are just clothes.

Sure Mr Turkey, you expect us to believe that? You are obviously a closeted Commie come out and admit it. You're probably even a big fan of €ircom aren't you?! People like you sicken me, all your Capitalistic slogan clothes should be burned!!! Commie Pig!!! No one buys clothes to keep warm or to look good it's all about promoting their causes! We're onto you Mr Jivin Turkey, one wrong move and your ass is grass and I'm a lawnmower.

Third_Echelon

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Sure Mr Turkey, you expect us to believe that? You are obviously a closeted Commie come out and admit it.

hold on a second here... first you are calling him a commie...

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

You're probably even a big fan of €ircom aren't you?! People like you sicken me, all your Capitalistic slogan clothes should be burned!!!

Now he's a capitalist?

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Commie Pig!!!

oh hold on... ah he's a commie again...

Do you know what a capitalist is and what a communist is???? I beginning to think that you do not understand the concepts here... :rolleyes:

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

No one buys clothes to keep warm or to look good it's all about promoting their causes! We're onto you Mr Jivin Turkey, one wrong move and your ass is grass and I'm a lawnmower.

I didn't say that. I said by just buying clothes because they look good you can inenvertingly promote something.. simple...

Eircom on the front of the shirt... you are promoting eircom..

Do you understand the term promotion? I beginning to think you do not.. go get a dictionary.. it might help to explain the terms a little better for you... :rolleyes:

Dave

We should all just go out and buy hemp clothes in a light grey, lest we wear a colour that would support a regime unbeknownst to us.

Failing that if you see an article of clothing you like, get a mundane grey digital camera preferrably with all the capitalist logos removed and take a photo of the said item of clothing, then scan the picture and upload it here, post a new thread and ask is there any historical significance relating to this shirt/pants/t shirt, then spend two weeks studying, or not as the case may be, then you can finally buy the item.

It would probably good idea to take it to a tshirt printing store and print "I know the historical significance of this tshirt and respect it" on the back.

Third_Echelon

Hey. im a raving capitalist... money, money, money... and making loads for a big multination corporation...

All im saying is that people should pay more attention to what they are wearing... that is all.. whats wrong with that?

some people :rolleyes:

Shaque attack

Waestrel wrote:

I wear this because I think its cool even though I have no knowledge of what it means or stands for!

Anyone with me!

does anyone suspect trolling of a very sad kind

Dave

Third_Echelon wrote:

All im saying is that people should pay more attention to what they are wearing... that is all.. whats wrong with that?

some people :rolleyes:

I think you're missing the point that people do pay attention to what they wear, just not in the same context that you do. If they see an item on a rack and think it looks nice, they'll buy it, like the majority of people. I don't think it's fair to criticise people for this. Taking the "holier than thou" attitude is just making some people look pretentious.