For nightowls watching US election

billy the squid

Nevada goes to bush
Michigan goes to kerry

mike65

Wyoming to Bush (as expected!) Hawaii to Kerry.

242/254

Mike.

billy the squid

beat me to it

mike65

Illinois for Kerry.

Thats worth 21

Mike

meepmeep

Bush - 254 Kerry - 242 according to CNN.

Ohios gonna be the decider, and it looks like Bush has that wrapped up.

mike65

Wisconcin for Kerry, Mitchigan for Kerry But he must win Ohio too. Nader has nearly 1% of vote in Wisconcin and he wont stop Kerry.

Mike.

aidan_walsh

Hah! That'll teach my American contact for telling me Ohio was a non-event...

meepmeep

Hes so far ahead in Ohio, i'd say its just a formality at this stage. Another 4 years of Bush peeps...

Watching CNN here at the moment

Theres only 1500 votes between Bush and Kerry there now with 99% counted

Nader has 3500 there-they are saying he's done the damage.

New mexico

meepmeep

1,500? Hmm it was 150,000 when i left the house this morning, and that was on CNN

mike65

56 million votes to 52 million in the popular vote. So what happened to the recruitment drive? The Ohio vote could last for days, they'll have to go through the provisonal papers I'd say.

Mike.

billy the squid

well before bush decides to blow up the rest of the world its been nice knowing ye

Im out of here

meepmeep

meepmeep wrote:

1,500? Hmm it was 150,000 when i left the house this morning, and that was on CNN

Cough* new mexico* cough* new mexico

mike65

Kerry for Minnisotta.

Mike.

meepmeep

Earthman wrote:

Cough* new mexico* cough* new mexico

oh

meepmeep

Apparently Bush is getting ready to come out soon and announce his victory, without waiting for Kerry to concede defeat (if thats even gonna be the case).

p.pete

Earthman wrote:

Nader has 3500 there-they are saying he's done the damage.

Can Nader off-load his votes or form a coalition of sorts with Kerry?

Hobbes

Yea he hasn't won yet at all. So he shouldn't be declaring it. Democrats are right, everyones vote should be counted even if it means Bush gets more votes.

Kinda symtomatic though of the way things are going...
Again on CNN I've just seen Senator Tom Daschle outgoing Democrat minority leader in the senate losing his seat in South Dakota.
Or rather just about losing it with 99% counted and his opponent declaring victory.

unkel

doodle_sketch wrote:

Hah! That'll teach my American contact for telling me Ohio was a non-event...

:eek: You need a new contact

Ohio and Florida were going to be the main battlegrounds!!!

Turned out this time Ohio was close - not as close as Florida last time

billy the squid

RTE radio one Bush 254 kerry 252

all down to ohio now

mike65

Bush 254 Kerry 252. Wisconcin is now head heat with Nadar the joker in the pack again.

Mike.

BattleBoar

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

You're going to lead a one man charge againts her

I voted for Kerry but I definitely wouldn't have voted for Hillary. The democrats need to find a candidate with mainstream appeal. Hillary would, in some ways, be the worst possible candidate they could pick.

OfflerCrocGod

Ohio is 99% finished and Bush has a lead that can't be assualted, it was over at 2 a.m. this morning. Sorry but that's the truth :mad:

GoneShootin

How many electoral seats are in Ohio ? Theres still New Mexico and Iowa to go!

I went to bed at 4am - just couldnt stay up any longer...

RE*AC*TOR

GoneShootin wrote:

How many electoral seats are in Ohio ? Theres still New Mexico and Iowa to go!

I went to bed at 4am - just couldnt stay up any longer...

20, Ohio decides it.

aidan_walsh

Doesn't look like its over for a few weeks yet, not if the provisional and absentee ballots are counted.

GoneShootin

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

20, Ohio decides it.

I need a hug....

flogen

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

Ohio is 99% finished and Bush has a lead that can't be assualted, it was over at 2 a.m. this morning. Sorry but that's the truth :mad:

No it's not. While it would unusual for Kerry to swing the state, there are only (just over) 100,000 votes in it. Sounds like a lot, but there are still around 1/4 of a million votes left to count, and possibly more.
I'm not being unrealistic, I know Kerry will be lucky to win, but its not over just yet.

flogen

p.pete

So basicly democrats would need roughly 75% of the total absentee ballot. Probably not too likely if either a) the Democrats were also blocking voters or b) any sizeable amount of the blocks are upheld.

flogen

p.pete wrote:

So basicly democrats would need roughly 75% of the total absentee ballot. Probably not too likely if either a) the Democrats were also blocking voters or b) any sizeable amount of the blocks are upheld.

I never said it would be easy, I just said it was possible

flogen

RE*AC*TOR

flogen wrote:

I never said it would be easy, I just said it was possible

flogen

Might be more likely that Michael Moore uncovers massive voting fraud on the diebold machines in Florida....

flogen

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Might be more likely that Michael Moore uncovers massive voting fraud on the diebold machines in Florida....

To be honest I'm expecting many conspiracy theories no matter what happens in the next few hours/days/weeks. The way Florida was won so easily was a surprise, but I'm not going to even begin to claim fraud because I dont know.

My scepticism tells me that any claims of fraud by the dems will be ignored, and any claims of fraud by the republicans will be studied carefully. Why? Well the republicans are likely to hold both houses of congress, meaning they will block any possible fraud claims from the dems. If Kerry wins the houses will do what they can to break him down.

(I just heard an anti war movement in Ireland are going to picket outside the US embassy tomorrow against the re-election of Bush... muppets! I dont want to see him win, but if it happens it happens, you can't try and protest against the will of the American people... unless they can prove the result was not the will of the American people)

flogen

RE*AC*TOR

flogen wrote:

(I just heard an anti war movement in Ireland are going to picket outside the US embassy tomorrow against the re-election of Bush... muppets! I dont want to see him win, but if it happens it happens, you can't try and protest against the will of the American people... unless they can prove the result was not the will of the American people)

Agree totally. Feel the same about a lot of the bile being spewed on some of the threads on the Politics board.

therecklessone

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Agree totally. Feel the same about a lot of the bile being spewed on some of the threads on the Politics board.

Same here. Think I'll give politics a miss for a few days.

flogen

therecklessone wrote:

Same here. Think I'll give politics a miss for a few days.

I dont have that luxury... I have my politics class on Thursday!!

BBC state that Bush now has a lead of around 130,000 votes in Ohio... thats made it tighter by around 10 - 20,000 votes. Lets hope this keeps up

/edit BBC also state that there are around 140,000 provisional ballots still to be counted, meaning Kerry would need to get 95% of them or so. Word is he's due to concede some time today.

flogen

OfflerCrocGod

100% counted in Ohio Bush: 51% Kerry: 48.5%, he never really had a chance