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    #122
    flogen
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    RE*AC*TOR wrote:
    Hey flogen you'll have to change your sig if Kerry wins!

    :D I know, I meant to draw 2 up for each possible result... never got around to it... I will though (hopefully I'll need to anyway!)

    flogen


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    #123
    kencleary
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭kencleary


    Virginia to Bush - I am disappointed though, damn reporters getting my hopes up.


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    #124
    aidan_walsh
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    PBS adjust: 78, 81 Bush


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    #125
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,993 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Fatest growing Politics thread ever?

    Question: Why are the queues so long? Why aren't there more polling stations? Are there a fixed number? Why not increase it, especially given what's happening in Ohio! Anyone know?


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    #126
    aidan_walsh
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    BBC: 77/94 Bush
    CNN: 87/77 Bush

    Strangest I've seen so far is Alabama is only 51% Bush, thats a very strongly Republican state...


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    #127
    RE*AC*TOR
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    ixoy wrote:
    Fatest growing Politics thread ever?

    Question: Why are the queues so long? Why aren't there more polling stations? Are there a fixed number? Why not increase it, especially given what's happening in Ohio! Anyone know?
    Yeah, mostly spam, but hey! This is fúcking important dammit!


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    #128
    OfflerCrocGod
    Registered Users Posts: 6,316 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Bob Dole is coming from NOWHERE to grab the lead WHOOOO! What excitement!! BOB DOLE 4 PREZ!!! :D Go Bob Dole.


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    #129
    aidan_walsh
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    West Virginia drops to 49.2% Bush, 50% Kerry. Previously declared a Bush win unanimously.


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    #130
    OfflerCrocGod
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    94-78 Bush BBC.


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    #131
    kencleary
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    ixoy wrote:
    Fatest growing Politics thread ever?

    Question: Why are the queues so long? Why aren't there more polling stations? Are there a fixed number? Why not increase it, especially given what's happening in Ohio! Anyone know?

    Ummmm I would hope there are fixed polling stations, anything else could be a disaster given the dirty tricks and suspisicion around this election.

    So there are long queues - in the grand scheme of things it only means results are delayed by a few hours. Better that then the chaos of having demand based voting stations.


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    #132
    Chucky the tree
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    doodle_sketch wrote:
    BBC: 77/94 Bush
    CNN: 87/77 Bush

    Strangest I've seen so far is Alabama is only 51% Bush, thats a very strongly Republican state...



    108-77 for bush on skw news


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    #133
    enda1
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    The yahoo.com home page is good for a quick glance at the recent predictions.

    108-77 bush. sky news.


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    #134
    RE*AC*TOR
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    doodle_sketch wrote:
    West Virginia drops to 49.2% Bush, 50% Kerry. Previously declared a Bush win unanimously.
    :eek:

    wooohooo!


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    #135
    aidan_walsh
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    MSN.com very confused. They have 81/77 bush on one side of the frontpage then 78/66 kerry on the other... :s


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    #136
    OfflerCrocGod
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    RE*AC*TOR wrote:
    wooohooo!
    It could turn around again once the hounds of hell - sorry - the lawyers are released.


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    #137
    aidan_walsh
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    CNN declare North Carolina for Bush, 102/77 Bush


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    #138
    OfflerCrocGod
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    doodle_sketch wrote:
    MSN.com very confused. They have 81/77 bush on one side of the frontpage then 78/66 kerry on the other... :s
    Just older values not being refreshed. Still 94 - 78 on BBC.


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    #139
    aidan_walsh
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    CNN - Bush gaining in Ohio, Kerry leads by 2%


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    #140
    Tiriel
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    102:78 bbc bush


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    #141
    RE*AC*TOR
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    doodle_sketch wrote:
    CNN - Bush gaining in Ohio, Kerry leads by 2%
    its like the fecking eurovision!


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    #142
    mike65
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    Vermot for Kerry by 2:1

    Mike.


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    #143
    billy the squid
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    Got a feeling this forum would be hopping tonight

    morning all

    Listening to bbc 5live who are saying that there have been numerous challenges in ohio.

    bbc website stating Bush 81 Kerry 79


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    #144
    OfflerCrocGod
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    102-78 to Bush BBC.


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    #145
    nutkase
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    Ohio closing at 8:30, there is at least a three hr wait outside


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    #146
    OfflerCrocGod
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    RE*AC*TOR wrote:
    its like the fecking eurovision!
    Don't vote for the Turkey.


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    #147
    RE*AC*TOR
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    OfflerCrocGod wrote:
    Don't vote for the Turkey.
    Dustin? :confused:


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    #148
    Tiriel
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    25% voting on new machines, in Ohio 70% counted on same machines as used in Florida in last election.. confident?


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    #149
    flogen
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    Pennsylvania being led by Kerry, hopefully things will stay that way that's a dodgy state and one he needs to hold

    flogen


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    #150
    nutkase
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭nutkase


    California has almost 100% voter turnout


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    #151
    kencleary
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    Sorry to spam the thread but there's a great story up on theonion.com atm:

    U.S. Inspires World With Attempt At Democratic Election

    NEW YORK—Observers from around the world report that they were inspired and moved by America's most recent attempt to hold a public election in accordance with the standards of a democratic republic.

    "After all of the recriminations, infighting, and general madness before the election, the people of this fractured nation still found the courage to show up at the polls," said Anas Salman, an Afghan U.N. official who was in New York during the American electoral experiment. "More than half of America's citizens—a large portion of them women—made a valiant attempt to choose their own leader, even though there was no guarantee their votes would be counted. It was truly inspirational."

    In the weeks leading up to the election, both of America's political parties alleged fraud in voter registration. Additionally, experts debated the reliability of electronic voting machines, which experienced problems in trial runs and leave no paper trail. Election officials also bemoaned many states' use of outdated punchcard machines.

    Considering such disputes, Salman said he was "touched and gladdened" that voter turnout for the U.S. election nearly approached voter-turnout rates for Afghanistan's first popular elections in October, when 69 percent of citizens cast ballots.

    "True, voter turnout in many parts of the world tops 90 percent," Salman said. "But it's understandable that the rate is lower in countries such as Afghanistan, where the government has raised fears of possible terrorist attacks at the polls. Our people showed great courage."

    The last American presidential election, held in 2000, was also rife with problems. Myriad scandals arose concerning alleged fraud and ballot tampering. Although the Democratic candidate won the popular vote by a margin of half a million votes, the Republican candidate won the presidency with a strenuously disputed 537-vote lead in Florida, a state governed by his brother.

    "Despite the specter of corruption in 2000, and even though the procedural problems which surfaced during the previous election were never remedied, the American people chose to put their faith in the system once again this year," said Joseph Mtume, a Kenyan diplomat who traveled to Ohio to view America's democratic proceedings. "You can't help but feel touched by the determination of these citizens who put their doubts aside to collectively participate in the democratic process. All this in a nation divided by war, where dissent is widespread and the rift between citizens has rarely been higher. It was truly stirring."

    Carlos Cruz, an Argentinian diplomat who observed the election in Miami, said he was profoundly moved by America's democratic election.

    "With my own eyes, I saw people from all walks of life waiting in long lines to cast their votes, and very few of them were turned away," Cruz said. "They believed in the democratic process, despite the existence of racial gerrymandering of the sort most recently seen in the redistricting of U.S. House seats to negate the impact of Hispanic and black voters in Texas."

    Cruz said he was impressed that average citizens still participate in the "current money-dominated electoral process," even though legislators have largely ignored their repeated calls for campaign finance reform.

    "Their wide-eyed earnestness was humbling," Cruz said. "Truly, my heart leaps up. I can only hope that, under such demoralizing circumstances, my countrymen would similarly rise together to try and make democracy work."

    The multinational watchdog group Organization for Security and Cooperation sent 600 official observers to monitor proceedings, from countries as disparate as North Korea, Syria, and China. Many reported that they came away deeply touched.

    "To see a country with such overwhelming problems—problems that affect every last citizen—have so many of its voters feel that they can still influence their leadership... words fail me," said Dae Jung Kim, a North Korean OSC delegate. "Certainly, my report to my own government will emphasize this. I will recommend that my leaders implement such American election-time strategies and tactics as would fit the North Korean model of personal freedom, such as their elegant Electoral College and the inscrutable voting machine."


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