Is my new Spec a bit expensive

jessy

Just wondering if anyone had €4000-5000 would they spend that much building a new machine.

I built up a nice spec on paper but its costing 4000+

Maybe im just been a Miser!!

Sunbeam Transformer Gaming ATX Case - Black (No PSU) (CA-011-SB)€109.51

Antec TrueControl 550 Watt ATX12 power supply w/ front control panel CA-018-AN) €134.80

Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra (Socket 939) Motherboard (MB-018-GI) €193.72

AMD Athlon FX55 (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-099-AM) €875.31

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS3 (GE2GB3200BDC) (MY-046-GL)€379.37

2 x Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD) €357.27

2 x Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB 6B300SO SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (6B300S0) (HD-040-MD) €404.48

MSI NX6800 GT-TD256 GeForce 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-026-MS) €437.66

Sony SDM-S94 19" LCD Monitor - Black (MO-001-SO) €577.81

WaterChill KT03A-L20 Antarctica CPU Power Cooling Kit - 120mm Radiator/
Fan (03-L-5012) (WC-014-VP) €218.11

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy ZS Platinum Pro 7.1 - Retail (SC-018-CL) €219.55

2 x LG GSA-4120BB Dual Layer 12x DVD±RW ReWriter - OEM (CD-025-LG) €139.94

OcUK Value Floppy Drive - Black (HD-001-OK) €10.70

OcUK Value 1GB Removable USB2.0 Drive (MY-00O-OK) €101.08

So all i really asking is can someone build a cheaper one of the same power??

Lump

2 x Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD) €357.27

That seems a little expensive, why not buy one 250 Gb drive, it'd work out cheaper and more space.


John

jessy

The 2 x 300gb hard drives will take care of the space, the raptor are for speed (Raid 0)

quarryman

Can you sell me some of the seeds to your money tree?

I'll give you the small change and a 25c Bus receipt in exchange.

jessy

Believe me mate I wish I had a money tree, but I don’t(will be paying this one back for many a year to come), this is a once off build for me. Just one of those thing on me list of thing to do.

ViperVenoM

im not very good in euros but with 4000-5000 euros ..what £3000!!..id be expecting dual 6800 ultras! tbh

Creamy Goodness

tbh 2gig's of ram is overkill

and what will you need 2 dvd burners for?

jessy

6800 ultras are a waist of money the gt's can be flashed to ultra.

jessy

Cremo wrote:

tbh 2gig's of ram is overkill

and what will you need 2 dvd burners for?

like i said mate i thinking ahead here, longhorn is out in the next 1.5 year.

BloodBath

Tbh I think you would be much better off with 1-1.5ghz of high performance ram instead of that cheap high latency stuff you listed there.

I think your crazy spending that much money on a pc as well. There wouldn't be a whole lot of performance difference between one of the new 90nm 3.2 a64's overclocked and a fx-55. Not enough to warrant spending an extra 600e anyway.

I'd drop the raptors as well. They aren't worth the price for the small performance difference in raid compared to those maxtors in raid. Not for the small amount of space you get.

Use the grand you save on illigal substances and cheap women. A lot more fun.


BloodBath

pickarooney

If you really think ahead, specs like that will cost you about a grand in a couple of years.

jessy

pickarooney wrote:

If you really think ahead, specs like that will cost you about a grand in a couple of years.

you could spend the rest of your life saying that, but the point is to have a top spec now not wait a couple of years and then buy an average spec

jessy

BloodBath wrote:

Tbh I think you would be much better off with 1-1.5ghz of high performance ram instead of that cheap high latency stuff you listed there.

I think your crazy spending that much money on a pc as well. There wouldn't be a whole lot of performance difference between one of the new 90nm 3.2 a64's overclocked and a fx-55. Not enough to warrant spending an extra 600e anyway.

I'd drop the raptors as well. They aren't worth the price for the small performance difference in raid compared to those maxtors in raid. Not for the small amount of space you get.

Use the grand you save on illigal substances and cheap women. A lot more fun.


BloodBath

was thinking about droping the raptor, but didnt realise the 90nm was so good.

secret_squirrel

I think you're mad you could get 90-95% of the horsepower for 60-75% of the cost.

I dont believe an FX-55 and watercooling is the way to go. For that price you could get watercooling and 2-3 Winchester (3000's or 3200's) (90nm) core A64's and test each one for maximum overclock - selling the ones that will overclock the least.

Ditto what bloodbath said for the ram. Get 1gig of top quality low latency stuff.

The Raptors are a waste of time too imho. Hell - you'd be better off putting a bigger raid-5 array together.

2 DVD burners???? are you really going to burn 2 things at the same time?

What does longhorn offer that requires 2 burners? Also bear in mind that bits are being dropped from longhorn left, right and center.

Also bear in mind even it you get your rig as shown - it will have lost at least half of its value in a years time whereas if you get a 3000/3200 you will be able to drop in a better quality 90nm cored athlon in a years time. Bear in mind the dual core a64's will be coming through next year. (not sure if they will be pin compatible tho) although the A64 was designed from the start with multiple cores in mind.

dubdvd

if its ahead of the pack today heres what id go for
http://systems.scan.co.uk/Systems/ConfigureSystem.ASP?SavedSystemID=&SystemID=102
for anyone out there who buys CUSTOM-PC MAG you will have seen this baby in the last issue
but now that i think of it ...this big steel block in front of me wasnt to far of the price that your talking about
but honestly i wont go for the case ,its a real boy-racer case ...if your going to be putting thode types of parts together you should put them into something a bit more classy and solid and as the lads have said no sooner will you have bought the 90mm amd chip and both intel and amd will have there dual-core 64bit chips out ..one thing i would do is stay away from the new intel 1066fbs chips they have turned out to be a flop ...would you argee bloodbath

pickarooney

Of course, but you should say that and not kid yourself that it's for future proofing. If you're the kind of person who has to have the absolute best (nothing at all wrong with that), then you'll be upgrading within a year.

jessy

secret_squirrel wrote:

What does longhorn offer that requires 2 burners? Also bear in mind that bits are being dropped from longhorn left, right and center.

noting i was talking about the RAM

secret_squirrel

jessy wrote:

cremo wrote:

tbh 2gig's of ram is overkill

and what will you need 2 dvd burners for?

like i said mate i thinking ahead here, longhorn is out in the next 1.5 year.

Sorry - your poor quoting skill confuzzled me

2 burners is still overkill for no good reason though.

Praetorian

Jessy you copied my old color scheme for my specs in your signature. I'm telling mommy!

secret_squirrel

dubdvd wrote:

if its ahead of the pack today heres what id go for
http://systems.scan.co.uk/Systems/ConfigureSystem.ASP?SavedSystemID=&SystemID=102

Again its complete overkill though - how many mainstream pc applications can take advantage of dual xeons? Very few - to be honest. Would also be interested to how much dual opterons would cost.

ViperVenoM

jessy wrote:

6800 ultras are a waist of money the gt's can be flashed to ultra.

i know..but i was just stating what id expect for that sort of cash

im not gonna to say 2 dvd burners are overkill though..ive got 3 :rolleyes:

jessy

secret_squirrel

i do have poor typing skills. but as for the 2 dvd burners, copying dvd's. insted of ripping the disk to you hard drive you can just copy it from the second dvd drive.

secret_squirrel

um- you only need a burner and a dvd-rom drive to do that?

And you're just greedy ViperVenom

jessy

the difference between a dvd rom and burner is minimum

in cost

jessy

dubdvd wrote:

but honestly i wont go for the case ,its a real boy-racer case ...if your going to be putting thode types of parts together you should put them into something a bit more classy and solid

what would you recommend?

ViperVenoM

secret_squirrel wrote:

um- you only need a burner and a dvd-rom drive to do that?

And you're just greedy ViperVenom

...3 dvd writers 2 dvd roms/cdrw and a cd writer ...and i only use 2 :rolleyes:

dubdvd

http://www.savrow.com/site/sr71.html
or maybe of the desktop range here
http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product_class_include&files=chassis.html
or maybe one of these ..
http://www.lian-li.com.tw/english/product.php?action=viewPrd
if you have ever had one of the above cases you will know that the quality and build of these are way above some of the tin cans out there with plastic flash faces cases

jessy

Ok here is the revised spec. Taken into consideration advice.


Akasa Eclipse-62 Aluminum Case (CA-005-AK) €133.91
Antec NeoPower 480W PSU (CA-022-AN) €126.71
Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra (Socket 939) Motherboard (MB-018-GI) €194.38
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-101-AM)€277.89
4x OCZ 512MB PC3200 Platinum Series EL-DDR CAS2 (MY-016-OC) €554.98
2x Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB 6B300SO SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (6B300S0) (HD-040-MD) €403.16
2x NEC ND3500 16x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-012-NE) €138.23
2x Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-007-WD) €211.37
MSI NX6800 GT-TD256 GeForce 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-026-MS) €440.60
Samsung SM-910N 19" LCD Monitor - Silver (MO-011-SA) €466.52
WaterChill KT03A-L30 Antarctica CPU Ultra Extreme Cooling Kit - Triple 120mm Radiator/Fan (WC-016-VP)€296.61
Zalman Multi Fan Speed Controller ZM-MFC1 (OA-001-ZA) €34.56
4x Zalman ZMF1 80mm Silent Case fan - 3 pin (FG-000-ZA) €34.56
OcUK Value Floppy Drive - Black (HD-001-OK) €10.70
OcUK Value 1GB Removable USB2.0 Drive (MY-00O-OK) €101.80

TOTAL €3,313.49

jesus_thats_gre

Maybe im just been a Miser!!

I think your are an attention seeker, see below:

AMD Athlon FX55 (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-099-AM) €875.31

GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS3 (GE2GB3200BDC) (MY-046-GL)€379.37

2 x Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD) €357.27

2 x Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB 6B300SO SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (6B300S0) (HD-040-MD) €404.48

2 x LG GSA-4120BB Dual Layer 12x DVD±RW ReWriter - OEM (CD-025-LG) €139.94


The components are complete overkill. Why would you want 2 DVD burners being the most obvious.

jessy

Anyone who complains about overkill obviously doesn’t get the idea of this forum. Every thing we do hear is overkill.

As for why I have included 2 x DVD burners Read the Above post’s.

Woden

jessy wrote:

Ok here is the revised spec. Taken into consideration advice.


Akasa Eclipse-62 Aluminum Case (CA-005-AK) €133.91
Antec NeoPower 480W PSU (CA-022-AN) €126.71
Gigabyte GA-K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra (Socket 939) Motherboard (MB-018-GI) €194.38
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester 90nm (Socket 939) - Retail (CP-101-AM)€277.89
4x OCZ 512MB PC3200 Platinum Series EL-DDR CAS2 (MY-016-OC) €554.98
2x Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB 6B300SO SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (6B300S0) (HD-040-MD) €403.16
2x NEC ND3500 16x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-012-NE) €138.23
2x Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-007-WD) €211.37
MSI NX6800 GT-TD256 GeForce 6800 GT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-026-MS) €440.60
Samsung SM-910N 19" LCD Monitor - Silver (MO-011-SA) €466.52
WaterChill KT03A-L30 Antarctica CPU Ultra Extreme Cooling Kit - Triple 120mm Radiator/Fan (WC-016-VP)€296.61
Zalman Multi Fan Speed Controller ZM-MFC1 (OA-001-ZA) €34.56
4x Zalman ZMF1 80mm Silent Case fan - 3 pin (FG-000-ZA) €34.56
OcUK Value Floppy Drive - Black (HD-001-OK) €10.70
OcUK Value 1GB Removable USB2.0 Drive (MY-00O-OK) €101.80

TOTAL €3,313.49

you really wanna be waiting for nforce 4 ultra boards and getting a sli system based on two 6800 GT's or whatever you have.

also there are other psu's worth looking into like the antec neopower which are completely modular like the ultra X-connect psu.

another point to note that dual dvd burners aren't always the way forward espcially off the same manufacturer. some drives are much better at reading than others my normal dvd drive for example hammers through safe disc protection as it supports fast skip error blocks while my writer doesn't the result being its better to rip with one and burn with the other. i wouldn't have this option if i had two indentical drives which is something to bare in mind