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Love is the Drug

  • 15-11-2004 10:41pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭


    i'm watching the new show on RTE 2 which follows a family in Drogheda and i'm very curious as to why so far i have heard ONE Drogheda accent!
    the main characters all sound very dublin to me....mostly south side.

    why cant RTE for once get their heads out of Dublin 4 and see the rest of the talent the country has to offer. :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭Crania


    Yeah I'm watching this crap show aswell. I thought RTE couldn't get any worse but it officially has. It is one of the worst shows I have ever seen on any channel at any time !!! Its not funny and whats it even meant to be about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    its brutal! the main guy is the biggest southsider "im the bor man from the other noight, d'ya know what i mean loike"

    and i love all the scenic shots of drogheda!! :rolleyes: its the only way you'd actually know where it was set.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I'm watching it and it seems pretty funny tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭klong


    The panning shots from drogheda are exactly as i remember the place- dark and cloudy.
    The acting seems pretty wooden in places.
    No Drogheda accents as far as i could tell which is a good thing, we most definetely had a guy from naaaavan (the bouncer which the facial hair)
    Yes, there are funny moments but also somebizarre ones like where they get "busy-ish" in the back of a van
    Ill have to see more to reserve judgement. How long is it running for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭atgate


    It was based on a play done by a drama group in Drogheda. The director (who also co-wrote it) is from Drogheda as well and so are half the cast......

    just for information purposes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Classic cases of begrugery.

    I thought it was very good, I was expecting a perhaps a repeat bow wow(Piss ripped out of that on the Blizzard Of Odd, now we know what pony is).

    The accents, there were two one from the bouncer and the other from one of the girls. And that was enough thank you very much.

    The acting I can find no fault with it.

    Monday nights on RTE 2 might just return to the good aul days of Monday nights on N2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Elmo wrote:
    Classic cases of begrugery.

    how is it begrudgery to expect decent irish shows for a change?
    Elmo wrote:
    The accents, there were two one from the bouncer and the other from one of the girls. And that was enough thank you very much.

    why is it enough? the show is supposed to be set in Drogheda with people from Drogheda so why, therefore, should the majority of the cast (including the main actors) have Dublin accents?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭klong


    To be fair, theres a lot of people not originally from Drogheda living there now, but the main character lives in Brookville which is on the wrong side of town for the Dubs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Didn't think it was all that bad...certainly, in comparison to some things RTE have served up, it's quality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭sanncoo


    Didn't think it was all that bad either. Way better than that crap known as Bow wow....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭Boberto


    Hey not all people from Drogheda have that horrid accent! :D
    I only caught the last few mins of the show but last time i checked Drogheda wasn't in Dublin. Dublin is the only accent i could pick up.

    Well granted the show is set in drogheda but most movies and shows rarely contain cast from the area in which they're set. I speak mainly of american programmes... That being said, the dubs could have tried to cover up their accent a little :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭BolBill


    Thought it was ok actually. Then Blizzard of Odd, Podge and Rodge and then the f**ked up Monkey Dust, good nights viewing..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    IF THEY USED DROGHEDA ACCENTS NO ONE WOULD WATCH IT. JUST LOOK AT WHAT BLACKY CONNOR DID TO GLENROE....NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THE SOUNDS OF THE INBRED. I did watch the show and thought it was good. Best of what Ive seen RTE make in ages. I knew there would be Drogheda people kicking up a fuss, you should just let it be, it makes a change from the nine o clock news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    I didnt have any expectations for it at all because i hadnt even planned to watch it to be honest!was just one of those nights were i couldnt find anything good on the telly,c checked the guide and found this on!I actually thought it was quite good!Ok it sounded very Dublin like for something that is supposed to be set in Drogheda but i thought it was quite funny!Its something id give another bash or so before i say its crap or not!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 flygirl


    I thought it was great!
    I grew up near drogheda and it was bizarre seeing the action take place in the locations of my misspent youth ;)
    Saw it years ago when it was a play by Calipo theatre group & its been really well translated from the stage to the tv screen...great to see that the original writer and director of the play has been retained for the TV version.
    Loads of genuinely clever humour and originally shot....No excuse for anything like the contrived crap that was the Big Bow Wow to be shown again after this. Looking forward to the rest of the series....
    And the Blizzard of Odd afterwards, excellent :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 manmusic


    how is it begrudgery to expect decent irish shows for a change?



    why is it enough? the show is supposed to be set in Drogheda with people from Drogheda so why, therefore, should the majority of the cast (including the main actors) have Dublin accents?


    Your such a whinge, the show was good just leave it at that. Man some people are just annoying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭embee


    how is it begrudgery to expect decent irish shows for a change?



    why is it enough? the show is supposed to be set in Drogheda with people from Drogheda so why, therefore, should the majority of the cast (including the main actors) have Dublin accents?

    Wah wah wah.

    When was the last time you were in Drogheda? Most people there speak with a stupid goddamn Dublin inflection and have done for some time. A lot of young people from Drogheda sound like they are from Dublin 4.

    That aside, it was good. Hope the rest of the series is as good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭klong


    embee wrote:
    Wah wah wah.

    When was the last time you were in Drogheda? Most people there speak with a stupid goddamn Dublin inflection and have done for some time. A lot of young people from Drogheda sound like they are from Dublin 4.

    That aside, it was good. Hope the rest of the series is as good.


    Having gone to school there, I think i should know about this well enough, and no, a lot of young people from drogheda sound like theyre from drogheda...


    But anyway this fuss over the accent is missing the point of the thread- was it any good or not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    embee wrote:
    Wah wah wah.

    When was the last time you were in Drogheda? Most people there speak with a stupid goddamn Dublin inflection and have done for some time. A lot of young people from Drogheda sound like they are from Dublin 4.

    That aside, it was good. Hope the rest of the series is as good.

    Actually knowing Peachy is from the same town as me id say she has been to Drogheda a few times!I have anyways and they dont sound like theyre from Dublin at all!Its quite distinct actually!Even people from a couple of miles up the road from me like Laytown and Bettystown and the likes have a very different accen t to a Dublin one!Mind you, I dont really care about whether they have Drogheda accents or Dublin accents at all!I quite liked it! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    klong wrote:
    Having gone to school there, I think i should know about this well enough, and no, a lot of young people from drogheda sound like theyre from drogheda...


    But anyway this fuss over the accent is missing the point of the thread- was it any good or not?

    Yeah it was good Klong! I enjoyed it anyways even though i wasnt expecting anything from it!Was funny too! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭klong


    Thank you trigger!

    I dont watch a huge amount of television myself so im not the most qualified to comment on it, but as i said earlier i like the panning shots showing the town; that said, it there weren't the panning shots few people would know it was drogheda (said earlier)A few parts made me laugh alright, it has aroused some interest in me. ill definetely try and watch it next week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭*Page*


    watched it last night for the first time wasnt too impressed seems very shammy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭embee


    Drogheda is in County Louth, tbh.

    What does it matter what accent people have? You watch The Clinic.... it is set in Dublin yet... *gasp* ... What is this madness?!?!?! They don't all HAVE DUBLIN ACCENTS!?!?!?! Or, worse still, the woman on Fair City who is meant to be from Sligo doesn't have a Sligo accent?!?!?!

    Whats the world coming to?!

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    Well i think the point being made is that its supposed to be a Drogheda family and they all have Dublin accents!But you could also argue the fact that they could have been a Dublin family that moved to Drogheda!It doesnt matter anyways really!Not a great thing to rate a show on to be honest!in that case all american shows or films that try and portray an irish accent and it just sounds absolutely crap should be crap then! :rolleyes:

    The scenes done around the town though defineately looked like Drogheda!Was strange in a way cos i reconised a lot of places!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    The three posters at the start:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    embee wrote:
    Or, worse still, the woman on Fair City who is meant to be from Sligo doesn't have a Sligo accent?!?!?!

    I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for that. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    Its yer one Sorcha!

    Supposed to be from Sligo yet she has a dub accent!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    What about Vicky from Eastenders, came over from America with a US accent, after 4 weeks she's a cockney blue blood complete with "naffink, oo's got the 'ump"

    But I degress, will have a look at Love is the drug next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    What about Vicky from Eastenders, came over from America with a US accent, after 4 weeks she's a cockney blue blood complete with "naffink, oo's got the 'ump"

    But I degress, will have a look at Love is the drug next week.

    Hehe yeah i noticed that!....had to laaugh though!really messed up there though!but to be honest her English accent is better than the american one she had!God that was horrid!wanted to break the tv every time she talked! "Sshhhhharrrrrronnnnn!"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 sharp22


    FFS, I've never heard such pathetic whinging in all my life. If your only problem with the show is the accents, you have little to be worrying about. I thought the show had interesting characters, and was hilarious.

    So what if they didn't have mullah Drogheda accents? Who wants to hear that anyway?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Ì had a looksie at this, more to see if it's a case of "The Big Bow 2: This Time It's Really Really ****" or actually half-decent. Fortunately, it's the latter. Sure the acting's not outstanding but it's not wince inducing either. The dialogue seems pretty naturally, as do the characters - not too carboardy.

    Production wise it wasn't too bad either. The songs are primarily contemporary and recognisable as well. There was some "fancy" editing by way of speeded up camera work, etc. but it wasn't too distracting and it fit in fairly well with the show's tone.

    All in all a very big step up from "The Big Bow Wow". Maybe they're finally learning something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    Generally accents reflect where the shows are based eg

    Coronation St - Manchester/Salford
    Eastenders - London
    Emmerdale - Yorkshire
    Fair City - Dublin

    So its natural that a prog based in Drogheda would have people with Drogheda accents. I'm not whinging, I didnt even see the f**king show, just pointing out the obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Coronation St - Manchester/Salford
    Eastenders - London
    Emmerdale - Yorkshire
    Fair City - Dublin

    Emmerdale mmmm bit dodge as far as accents are concerned most of the characters are blow ins.
    Eastenders I think they do good stage eastend accents
    Same with Fair City (Good stage dublin if they are arsed)
    Coronation st. make a point of it. But they all need to learn to pronounce RING.

    I think the people in this show don't have D4 accents but nutral Irish Accents.

    I don't personnel thinks it makes much of a difference. However I would say the Droghead accent is awful, sorry lads but it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Elmo wrote:
    I think the people in this show don't have D4 accents but nutral Irish Accents.

    The thing is that people all over Ireland are switching to the d4 accent.

    I do think it would be hilarious/horrifying if they did a show set in Cork with Cork accents, though. It's the country's second largest city and no soap/series like "Love is the Drug" has been made there afaik.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    Dunno exactly what a d4 accent is!maybe because i dont know anyone there!I dont everyone is getting a d4 accent though!Dublin alone has numerous different ones!I have a North county/Balbriggan accent and if anything i aint losing it but its getting stronger!

    Yeah i have loads of relatives in Cork from my mams side of the family and every time im down there it cracks me up the way they talk!(thats if i can understand them) they dont even have to say something funny, it just is!so a show with actors from down there wont even have to try and be funny it just will! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 flamin moe


    the accent is irrelevant - do people really want the characters to talk like ian harte. it had to be set somewhere, and the writer/producer is from the town so i presume that swung it.

    found it very enjoyable, especially for rte, there were very few cringing moments. not sure if being from drogheda has biased my opinion of it though. it was unusual to see your local on tv :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Lainey


    i thought it was good programme.. i will def watch on monday night.. the fake tan was great and the handing over wrong money haha :)
    most of my friends looked at it and liked it too..


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,078 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Saw it on monday, sorely missing the Panel already. Before I talk about it, I'll chip in about the accents. I really couldn't care less if the accents were accurate or not because, frankly, most accents are a pain in the arse to listen to/decipher if you're not from the place and, of the irish population, most of us *don't* come from Drogheda. Yes, it's annoying and a bit crap that the dublin accent is becoming more prevalent. Then again, it's only a tv show, I'm pretty sure most of us can cope without having to have emotional readjustment classes or anything extreme like that.

    So. Onto the show itself. It wasn't bad, but on the other hand it wasn't very good either. The lad character, for the first time in ages, looks younger than he is supposed to be (he looks more like an 18 year old to me); the songs were, for the first half hour or so, very dated (yes, I know, they're only about 3 or 4 years old; in the world of unremarkable chart dance music that's ancient) and the explanation (the club's a hole with a tight-arse running it) doesn't make sense when they later use more recent songs. There were also some cringeworthy moments which still annoy me, because they felt like someone was trying (and failing) to capture the gloriously awkward feeling that the Office did so well.

    That said, given other programmes that RTE have bestowed upon us, I guess it's a step in the right direction at least. The production was pretty good, in fairness to it, and the cast was pretty good (although the main character didn't really grab my interest enough; hell, I can't even remember his name). Hopefully the script will sharpen up as the series progresses.

    A soap with cork accents would be....well, novel. And horrifying. But I'd probably end up watching it, in the same way that people slow down when they're passing the wreckage of a truck having ploughed into a pram at two hundred miles an hour. There's something compellingly foul about the idea that you just can't resist...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Selik


    I saw the last 15mins or so and I have to say I quite liked it!

    Characters are all a little over quirky, especially those two bouncers but as has already been mentioned -The Big Bow Wow. Try to be too serious and it almost never works.

    Looking forward to the next episode if I remember to watch it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 MastaBlasta


    They're a family living in drogheda but speak with South-Dublin accents.....Maybe they just watch too many RTE produced tv shows.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Bleh. It was alright, but not great. Whether I watch it again or not will depend on something better being on another channel. And given that it was alright, but not great, there probably will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I do think it would be hilarious/horrifying if they did a show set in Cork with Cork accents, though. It's the country's second largest city and no soap/series like "Love is the Drug" has been made there afaik.

    Actually one of the first soaps produced by RTE was based in Cork it was called SOUTHSIDE. It ran for two years. Also based in cork was Falling for a Dancer.

    Waterford had DDU and making the cut And it defo had no Waterford accents. Is sean McGinley from Wexford? Most of the time you did even realise that it was in Waterford, they had a few shots of the garda station and that was it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    Its hilarious that the Big Bow Wow was so absoloutely terrible that its now used as the measuring bar for all RTE comedy drama home produced programming,and will continue to be used as the measure until something worse than Bow Wow comes along(that could be a while)

    I thought this was quite good tbh. Fair enough,one or two RTE dramish moments in terms of awkwardness or cheese,but not a bad show either

    Mind you,the lad was so odd behaving and psychotic looking when he was trying to get with the black girl while she was doing her tour with the schoolkids that hes lucky he didnt get arrested
    And I somehow doubt that a gang of 6 foot well built bikers would give a ****e that an irishman was harrasing a Romanian gypsy. Lads like this I know wouldnt exactly be known for their liberal views-they would be more likely to assume she had conned him in some way

    Anyways,so many Dubs have moved to Meath,Louth,Cavan,Kildare,Wicklow etc that some peoples accents in these areas are starting to Dublizise a bit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Tha Gopher wrote:
    until something worse than Bow Wow comes along(that could be a while)

    I think you have a bit too much faith in RTE.
    And I somehow doubt that a gang of 6 foot well built bikers would give a ****e that an irishman was harrasing a Romanian gypsy.

    I think that was supposed to be the point. A sort of "Look! people acting differently to their traditional stereotypes! How cool is THAT?!" humour. Personally, that was one of the biggest failures of the episode.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,078 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Tha Gopher wrote:
    Its hilarious that the Big Bow Wow was so absoloutely terrible that its now used as the measuring bar for all RTE comedy drama home produced programming,and will continue to be used as the measure until something worse than Bow Wow comes along(that could be a while)

    Let's hope so, I felt violated after watching Bow Wow...sort of like being flashed by a pervy old man, only for the length of an entire episode. Ugh. God, I wish they'd learned from that.

    That said, RTE-made programming misses the mark more often than it hits it, not least because apparently they subscribe to some variant of the infinite monkeys with typewriters school of selecting screenplays & scripts....well, that and the fact that they can't even accurately plan a schedule for the shows they do commision (at least, I assume this from the fact that they had to re-air the first episode of stew one week after what I assume was the last episode aired, to fill a gap in the schedule a few days ago).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    will continue to be used as the measure until something worse than Bow Wow comes along(that could be a while)
    well, that and the fact that they can't even accurately plan a schedule for the shows they do commision

    If only we could give The Big Bow Wow the title of worst Drama ever to come from RTE up to now.

    However, this is not the case.

    The schedulers worked long and hard to find a suitable time for the Drama that was "The Choose".

    12AM ON THURSDAY NIGHT. You might still catch this rubbish and be thankful that Love is the Drug is so good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Fr Dougal


    Has any one seen the ad for tonites episode?

    Shows a guy popping a couple of E's at a party or club.

    I know it happens and it's after 9pm but think they seem to be glamourising drugs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I know it happens and it's after 9pm but think they seem to be glamourising drugs?

    It's based in droghead (sp?) Oh! the glamour. :D

    Sorry just had to. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭bringitdown


    fysh wrote:
    because apparently they subscribe to some variant of the infinite monkeys with typewriters school of selecting screenplays & scripts

    Hey some of those monkeys are cool, its the rest of them uppity D4 monkeys that ruin it for everyone with their rediculous meanderings on the meaning of life whilst feasting on their Donnybrook fair bananas and such. Some of those monkeys have never even been to Drogheda let alone north of the river!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭doh.ie


    I take my TV drama-watching pretty seriously, to the point where most of what I watch drama-wise isn't made in this country. So I didn't expect Love Is The Drug to be much different to The Big Bow Wow are any of the other material RTE has made in the past 15 years.

    I have to say, though, this really is the exception. I was very impressed by the first two episodes of this. Some embarrassing moments acting-wise and some slightly odd concepts plot-wise, but on the whole this is very, very good, IMO.

    I would have used this to launch the new RTE TWO rather than Stew (?!?!?) if the point what to show how decent domestic productions could be.

    Good start anyway. Will be interesting to see if the standard holds up right through. For now, they've got good scripts, good actors, incredibly high production values (for RTE) and the potential for a long-running series.


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