Help/Advice: Irish Broadband - Breeze 1MB Lite

gline

tom-thebox wrote:

My connection is better since this post, best of luck with IBB. As for myself I am getting a real ISP first chance I get.

I think thats not a fair statement, me and PLENTY of other people here have decent connections with IBB

tom-thebox

gline wrote:

I think thats not a fair statement, me and PLENTY of other people here have decent connections with IBB

From my point of view it is, and from my current location it is. The entire post explains that IBB service can be great in some areas and people have praised it however in my area and my customer experience has been terrible. I have sent a number of mails to them and not one reply.

Its my right to say if I think IBB is not up to the standards I think a ISP should be up too.

Its also my right to tell people my bad experiences and that I cant wait to get a provider that will meet my standards i.e answer support mails will be a majour selling point!

Adey2002

As promised, here are my pings at a busy time you will see it is totally unusable for gaming. I agree with Toms comment and I too am waiting for a better alternative, I think that the majority of people that are happy with IBB are either very lucky to get a decent connection, or have never had broadband before so they don't realise how crap it actually is.

to: www.boards.ie
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=118ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=241ms TTL=58
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Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=231ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=297ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
Packets: Sent = 33, Received = 33, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 581ms, Average = 219ms

AND to clarity.jolt.co.uk

Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data

Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=513ms TTL=56
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=456ms TTL=56
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Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=548ms TTL=56
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=527ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
Packets: Sent = 13, Received = 13, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 106ms, Maximum = 548ms, Average = 329ms

Mutant_Fruit

Adey2002 wrote:

As promised, here are my pings at a busy time you will see it is totally unusable for gaming. I agree with Toms comment and I too am waiting for a better alternative, I think that the majority of people that are happy with IBB are either very lucky to get a decent connection, or have never had broadband before so they don't realise how crap it actually is.

Please remember that Ripwave, the 2.4ghz Breeze equipment and the 5.8ghz equipment are all TOTALLY distinct in their general operation. You can't say that all products are crap, because that simply isn't true.

the 5.8ghz equipment is the best they offer at the moment, and typically does offer a great connection for all. The 2.4ghz breeze has been known to be dodgy, and i used to have that, and it was horrible for me.

Ripwave really depends on your area. You may or may not get a decent signal, there is nothing that can be done about that other than moving house. If you don't get a signal, tough tits. Think of it as failing an ADSL linetest.

Steffano2002

Well I'm not getting Tom scare me away from IBB! lol

Nobody on this forum who has the package I ordered is complaining. I'm just crossing my fingers and praying every night now... That's all I can do...

neokenzo

I dont know whether this is a glitch in firefox but I was downloading ipod update and my starting speed was 1000kbps. It went down slowly and drop around 300kbps. I downloaded 36MB within 3-4 minutes

Mutant_Fruit

Its a bug...

As soon as you click on a link to download a file, Firefox (and most other browsers) begin downloading the file. But the timer only starts once you select the download location... So if you leave a gap of a minute or so between when you click the link and choose the save location, you'll notice you'll have amazingly fast speeds, and will download the file in an amazingly short space of time

tom-thebox

Steffano2002 wrote:

Well I'm not getting Tom scare me away from IBB! lol

I am not trying to scare you buddie, just letting you know my experience, I really dont care if you sign up with them or not. Best of luck with what ever provider you go with.

See you on the gaming circut.

pete

Ballycoolin mast / VL gear / 1mb / 8:1

ping boards.ie: Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 18ms, Average = 10ms
ping clarity.jolt.ie: Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 27ms, Average = 19ms

Downstream 1053 Kbps (131.6 KB/sec) 1137 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 953 Kbps (119.1 KB/sec) 1029 Kbps (inc. overheads)

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedchart.asp?id=605525971007efc70c960552597

Steffano2002

pete wrote:

Ballycoolin mast / VL gear / 1mb / 8:1

ping boards.ie: Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 18ms, Average = 10ms
ping clarity.jolt.ie: Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 27ms, Average = 19ms

Now that's what I want to hear!

Blaster99

Seeing as I bored you folks with a few traceroutes above, I can report that IBB has changed the routes from Bray. Given that some router at RTE was adding about 100ms latency that's probably a good thing. It looks like this now:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 2 ms 2 ms 9 ms bray-vl-vlan-1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.50.193]

3 17 ms 18 ms 14 ms 62.231.32.238
4 31 ms 33 ms 34 ms 62.231.52.34
5 19 ms 29 ms 24 ms 62.231.52.229
6 10 ms 11 ms 12 ms suez-inex.hosting365.ie [193.1.208.202]
7 20 ms 17 ms 24 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.130]

Here's hoping for more consistent performance.

tom-thebox

Spoke to IBB today, I am not on the VL gear. I need to contact sales to get on the VL gear.

The VL gear should allow me to download the entire internet quickly ...... :cool:

Will update this when I get this amazing VL gear!

gline

yep the VL gear is th **** to get, it makes a massive difference

Red Alert

Amazing, but at 9.30 on the dot this morning i get a call for IBB - installation for december 13th!

I'm on 1meg so I presume I get the VL gear? would that be right?

gline

yep its vl gear for the 1 meg

neokenzo

I think there 2 version of the 1MB right? One with VL and one withour VL?

Drapper

Anyone have bad pings on IBB last night ?? MINE was really unstable !!!!

D

Steffano2002

neokenzo wrote:

I think there 2 version of the 1MB right? One with VL and one withour VL?

Not anymore I don't think. They stopped the non-VL 1MB package. I'm 99% sure the 1MB package has VL gear.

neokenzo

Drapper wrote:

Anyone have bad pings on IBB last night ?? MINE was really unstable !!!!

D

Mine was fine yesterday.

Steffano2002

Drapper wrote:

Anyone have bad pings on IBB last night ?? MINE was really unstable !!!!

D

Was playing with Drapper on my server in France and his ping was indeed atrocious (erratic, from 70-80 to 450 then 800 then back down to 115, etc)...

Hope it's because they were upgrading hardware (fibre optic anyone? lol)!

Drapper

Steffano2002 wrote:

Not anymore I don't think. They stopped the non-VL 1MB package. I'm 99% sure the 1MB package has VL gear.

Thats right !!!


C:\>ping www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=924ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=405ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=601ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=499ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 405ms, Maximum = 924ms, Average = 607ms

neokenzo

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=60
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=60

Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 6ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 9ms

gline

Steffano2002 wrote:

Not anymore I don't think. They stopped the non-VL 1MB package. I'm 99% sure the 1MB package has VL gear.

I was talking to the guy who installed my IBB breeze, they done away with the non-vl gear, all installs are VL now

Drapper

C:\>ping www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 12ms, Average = 9ms



YEHARRRRRRRRRR PING IS BACK !!!!!!

Steffano2002

Well I got a call from IBB today (just 1 week after sending my order form).

They wanted to know about the building I lived in. I told them it was 3 storeys high and that the roof was not accessible from inside the house. As a result, they'll have to come out with some kind of small crane as ladders are only used for buildings up to 2 storeys high. This is definitely going to lengthen the whole process... I'm still hoping I get an IBB connection before Christmas though! Fingers crossed

vasch_ro

Just got the 1mb lite pack last week I'm in bray working off the East Coast Fm transmitter

C:\Documents and Settings\John>ping www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 27ms, Average = 16ms

C:\Documents and Settings\John>

Tippex

1mb breeze here's hoping.....

Steffano2002

Let us know how it goes Tippex! Good luck!

Drapper

DOes anyone know anything about the VL technology that IBB use?? Capacities, how they monitor your use ect.... maybe you can let me know :-)

Herd they may block bittorents ect next year !!

Red Alert

If IBB do any pesky intrusions into my net traffic i'll be threathening them with breach of contract. Did anyone ever find a difinitive yes/no on whether they do or not?