1st X360 games get 90%

KdjaCL

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929179.asp


Looks fairly crap but suppose if its the 1st review on the system and is going to sell mags it has to get 90 or higher.

kdjac

super_furry

Heard promising things about Gun, but it'll be as good on all the current consoles. Gamestop in Henry Street have a 360 demo pod. Spent a few minutes with it, playing Call of Duty 2 this afternoon, I wasn't impressed at all. It looked like something that would run on the Xbox.

johnny_ultimate

The problem with a lot of the launch / near launch games is that they're coming out on current gen too. Gun and King Kong both look great, but if you can play them on something you already own, whats the point in shelling out all that cash? Its when the exclusives show up that the next gen will come into its own.

Retr0gamer

Well the game is supposed to be good. However it definitely isn't an advert for the xbox360 since the game is practically the same as the PS2 game. Not exactly progress. It is also an 'exclusive' review for the official xbox360 magazine which is a rag mag that deserves worse than being used as toilet roll.

Retr0gamer

super_furry wrote:

Heard promising things about Gun, but it'll be as good on all the current consoles. Gamestop in Henry Street have a 360 demo pod. Spent a few minutes with it, playing Call of Duty 2 this afternoon, I wasn't impressed at all. It looked like something that would run on the Xbox.

The xbox 360 will probably be filled with PC quality titles until the developers get their heads around the new kits that will allow proper use of the multiple cpu cores, although worryingly the multiple core approach has been likened to the notoriously awkward dual processor on the sega saturn by a number of developers so it could be a long wait until we see the consoles true potential.

super_furry

johnny_ultimate wrote:

The problem with a lot of the launch / near launch games is that they're coming out on current gen too. Gun and King Kong both look great, but if you can play them on something you already own, whats the point in shelling out all that cash? Its when the exclusives show up that the next gen will come into its own.

Indeed. The fact that 360 release games will be €10 to €20 more expensive than their counterparts on current consoles will make it even more of a problem. Of the release window titles, Elder Scroll IV is the only game that interests me and that's been delayed.

iregk

Retr0gamer wrote:

The xbox 360 will probably be filled with PC quality titles until the developers get their heads around the new kits that will allow proper use of the multiple cpu cores, although worryingly the multiple core approach has been likened to the notoriously awkward dual processor on the sega saturn by a number of developers so it could be a long wait until we see the consoles true potential.

The multi core systems are a lot more difficult to code for than the current get no question there. However the multi core is a lot easier to code for than teh cell currently in the ps3. The next gen will take a good while to get going as developers get to grips with the mechanics but sure thats always the way.

The ps2 and xbox never really got going until developers started to code directly for the hardware as opposed to using the standard dev suites.

KdjaCL

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929179.asp

oh look its not doing well on other consoles Driv3r?


kdjac

super_furry

Six hour completion time aparantly. Shame, I had high hopes for the game - probably just a rental now.

johnny_ultimate

Saw my first Xbox 360 in the flesh today. think call of duty was playing (something wartime anyways). I'll admit the graphics are nice and shiny but the games seemed to run at around the same smoothness current gens can. That's what I'm most worried about the next gen - in hindsight from previous to current the jump was huge in terms of smoothness and playability (try playing a 3rd person PS1 game today). But the last gen was jumpy and blocky. Most of those flaws were adressed with Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube. My point is, what exactly are going to be the major improvements with this gen? Are there only going to be minor improvements such as shinier graphics and slightly larger play areas? What does everyone think is going to be the defining factor of Generation Next?

steviec

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Saw my first Xbox 360 in the flesh today. think call of duty was playing (something wartime anyways). I'll admit the graphics are nice and shiny but the games seemed to run at around the same smoothness current gens can. That's what I'm most worried about the next gen - in hindsight from previous to current the jump was huge in terms of smoothness and playability (try playing a 3rd person PS1 game today). But the last gen was jumpy and blocky. Most of those flaws were adressed with Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube. My point is, what exactly are going to be the major improvements with this gen? Are there only going to be minor improvements such as shinier graphics and slightly larger play areas? What does everyone think is going to be the defining factor of Generation Next?

Current Gen was smooth, but often not too much was going on on screen. In that call of duty demo there were often lots and lots of troops running around, explosions all around you, dense smoke, and the frame rate never flinched. I've seen screenshots of a zombie game where there's literally hundreds of zombies, like a movie, not the two or three on screen typical of Resident Evil(I haven't played 4 btw in case someone shoots me down on that). Games like GTA should have really busy streets with more lifelike traffic than the fairly sparce population of current games. Although this sort of thing would have to be balanced for gameplay, doing a mission at rush hour would hardly be fun! Polyphony have said next gen will finally allow them to include damage modelling to their high standards in Gran Turismo. And with more than 6 bloody cars on track.

The games won't necessary look incredibly nicer but there'll be more going on and much more processing power, which should lead to more activity on screen and major advances in Physics and AI, anyone who plays FPS games on PC know how much this can add to a game, far more than shinier graphics could ever add.

Ciaran500

yawnstretch

^ Yessss, Very nice indeeeed. ^



Edit: Heh Check out the Hawaiian shirt on the zombie nearest the camera!

johnny_ultimate

Woah. The next gen features a lot of lumberjacks

koneko

Zombie lumberjacks at that

(That's Dead Rising)

Retr0gamer

Too many hawaiian shirts burn my eyes!

jesus_thats_gre

super_furry wrote:

Heard promising things about Gun, but it'll be as good on all the current consoles. Gamestop in Henry Street have a 360 demo pod. Spent a few minutes with it, playing Call of Duty 2 this afternoon, I wasn't impressed at all. It looked like something that would run on the Xbox.

This is complete and utter nonsense...


I have already stated that the only graphical flay about COD2 on the Xbox 360 is the lack of Anti Aliasing.. This is obviously because it is only an early demo and AA will be added for the final release (there is very little performace hit with the 360 when AA is enabled due to the way the GPU was designed, i.e. its designed with AA in mind).

I have a PC with a 6800 Ultra and 2 gigs of RAM.. I can certainly set the graphics so that it looks the same as the Xbox 360 version of COD2. I am darned if I can get anywhere near the same frame rate though.. I mean anywhere near.

It really is amazing who smooth COD2 runs on the 360.

jesus_thats_gre

steviec wrote:

Current Gen was smooth, but often not too much was going on on screen. In that call of duty demo there were often lots and lots of troops running around, explosions all around you, dense smoke, and the frame rate never flinched. .

I should have just quoted this.. The detail in animation in some of the scenes was incredible.. The thing is, there was 20 of 30 things to look at at any time, especially on the beach scene.

jesus_thats_gre

Retr0gamer wrote:

The xbox 360 will probably be filled with PC quality titles until the developers get their heads around the new kits that will allow proper use of the multiple cpu cores, although worryingly the multiple core approach has been likened to the notoriously awkward dual processor on the sega saturn by a number of developers so it could be a long wait until we see the consoles true potential.

The 360 is runoured to be considerably easier to develop for than the Cell.. The only console that may not be duel core is the Revolution. Some of the rumours that surround it are very interesting.. It could possibly be by far the easiest to develop for but the late launch will count against it.

Retr0gamer

The revolution will be extremely easy to develop for especially for developers who have experience with the GC. Nintendo say that the developement tools for the Gamecube can be used to develop games. The Xbox360 seems to be very easy to develope for due to the PC like architecture and can be seen in the PC ports.

CombatCow

Great!! so we can look forward to crappy 360 ports on the pc, just like we did with the xbox. :rolleyes:

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