Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Kill Bill's Browser.

Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭SolarNexus


    1. You'll only see porn when you want to.

    2. Your kids will only see porn when they want to.
    thats fantastic... :D

    I like the idea, but perhaps they should have gotten a better graphics designer -could do with looking a bit more like the film.
    Every year, hundreds of web designers take their own lives rather than continue the hopeless struggle of making their websites IE compatible
    actually, if anything IE is the most consistant browser -its the rest that are making the webstandards messy.

    its a good idea, but messily implemented, me thinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    SolarNexus wrote:
    actually, if anything IE is the most consistant browser -its the rest that are making the webstandards messy.
    That's just crap. Consistent with what - itself? There is no popularly used browser that correctly implements the defined web standards in every possible way but IE has throughout the years found ways to make life awkward in many fundamental areas of web development. It's not a case of the web standards being 'made messy', it's a case of poorly designed web browsers that don't adhere closely to the web standards (including IE) making life awkward for website developers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭Pacifico


    :D
    Never saw the video of Bill Gates getting the pie in the face before! Classic!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭smeggle


    That's just crap. Consistent with what - itself? There is no popularly used browser that correctly implements the defined web standards in every possible way but IE has throughout the years found ways to make life awkward in many fundamental areas of web development. It's not a case of the web standards being 'made messy', it's a case of poorly designed web browsers that don't adhere closely to the web standards (including IE) making life awkward for website developers.

    Except these browsers
    Firefox
    Safari
    Opera
    Amaya (Not technically a browser)

    All on W3C's list of fully compliant browsers - except I.E. - In fact if I remember right I.E. is the only one of the major browser solutions that isn't on the W3C list of compliant web standards browsers. W3C are the people who (Try) to set the standards but are most often ignored by I.E./microsoft and a few (idiot) webmasters....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    You have your "Compatible with everything" webmasters, who write good HTML standards compliant code and therefore their sites display perfectly in every browser.

    Then you have your "Compatible with MS" webmasters, who don't write proper code (or just use Visual Studio to generate their horrible code for em), and so their sites only display properly in the MS bastardisation of the web standards.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭democrates


    SolarNexus wrote:
    actually, if anything IE is the most consistant browser -its the rest that are making the webstandards messy.
    Staggering. Check out this msdn blog and repent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭rogue-entity


    Great idea, you should also see this site http://www.stopie.com.
    I already setup a warning message for visitors of my website, it displays a "fake" server error (418) stating that the client, ie, is not compatable with XHTML which is the standard that I use on my website. I will soon redesign my site for XHTML 2 when the standard is finalised, this means that IE wont have a hope in hell of seeing my site correctly, and I say, good riddence I wont comply with MS and use there crappy code.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 703 ✭✭✭SolarNexus


    democrates wrote:
    Staggering. Check out this msdn blog and repent.
    let me clarify:

    IE has been consistant in that it has been the >= 90% marketshare for so long that it has become a standard unto itself.

    I know full well that IE just gawks at webstandards, ignoring them and inventing its own half-assed versions with limited functionality. Dont get me wrong, I dont condone the idiots who 'program' Internet Exporer - its like a mutated monkey on a rampage, either you work with the monkey or the monkey throws feces at you.

    Ps.
    you can make all the standards you like, but if the market share is owned by a self-subtantiated standardised freak, its not going to make a blind bit of difference.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    SolarNexus wrote:
    you can make all the standards you like, but if the market share is owned by a self-subtantiated standardised freak, its not going to make a blind bit of difference.
    ...unless, of course, the market gets fed up and reacts with campaigns like this one to force the monopolist to take standards seriously.

    Are you starting to understand what it's about now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭democrates


    SolarNexus wrote:
    Ps.
    you can make all the standards you like, but if the market share is owned by a self-subtantiated standardised freak, its not going to make a blind bit of difference.
    Agreed, that has been the case for the last few years. IE smashed Netscape and used the traditional MS 'embrace, extend, dominate' strategy to take users down a cul-de-sac and leave them there so their office on windows cash cow was protected. Years wasted.

    That's why Firefox is as crucial as it is delightful. In fact it's only because of the success of Firefox that IE7 is going to make any attempt to comply with contemporary W3C standards.

    So now the new standards are being built into Firefox and it can do a hell of a lot more than render html, web2 is exploding, and google among others want to build the apps for web3 that will render the old desktop paradigm extinct. No amount of desktop software can outperform the productivity apps that will be available over the network, the browser is key to enabling that.

    Of course MS now declare they will make the web MS Windows/Office, a bit like the old 'make the world England' imperial ambition. The sun never sets on MS at the moment, but their territorial share is falling. They won't walk away from cash and will fight a trench war while the pr engine purrs to convince people that this will be a Microsoft century.

    If that were really true then why do top MS people departing for Google cause Ballmer to erupt like a Tazmanian Devil?


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭smeggle


    That Ballmer geezer is a gas allright - what a dweeble...

    I.E. 7.0 - tabbed browsing, W3C compliant, built in search features - and it's (Supposedly) secure.....

    hmm yes - right :D

    btw I think option 3 is a little to aggressive and actually does more harm than good. Firefox isn't without problems and the pop upblocker can be beaton - just visit winamp if you want proof. It doesn't stop all ad ware but does catch the major load. Updates are slightly better with Mozilla and security issues are sorted a lot faster and correctly in fairness.

    Personally - microsoft need to address there web-standards for one. Unhook there Internet Browser from the system and stop being lazy and create a safe secure 'Encrypted' update utility and use the browser as intended - a web-browser. Then and only then will they be able to give some form of assurance and a safer system for end users.
    oh they need to stop using that god awful Active-X - What were they and are they thinking of?

    Oh well - we'll see :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭steveland?


    Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
    The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
    Apache/1.3.34 Server at www.killbillsbrowser.com Port 80
    Ouchies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Danecookie


    Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
    The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
    Apache/1.3.34 Server at www.killbillsbrowser.com Port 80


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Is there an echo in here? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭steveland?


    oscarBravo wrote:
    Is there an echo in here? ;)
    I dunno, is there.... an echo in here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Heathen


    i cant find my 'Firefox' tab in referals on my adsense account? anyone actually done this to their site yet?


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    I don't think they're paying outside North America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Heathen


    ahh ok.. thanks paul


Advertisement