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Miniature yorkshire terriers/ yorkies

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  • 14-11-2005 7:07pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 4


    Just wondering if anyone has any details on breeders in and around the Dublin area. thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Many people (me definetely included) consider the breeding of so called miniature or "teacup" varieties an act of cruelty.

    These dogs cannot give birth naturally, only by C-section. There are problems with bone and joint development (open patella being the most severe one) as well as organ development (liver shunt as the biggest issue).
    Eye problems (those huuuge, cuuute Baby eyes) are also very widespread.

    Even if perfectly healthy, most of these poor little creatures are so delicate that they have to be carried everywhere (in the interest of their own safety) making a proper dogs life impossible ...with all the related behavioral issues.

    Please think again ...get a "normal" size dog.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    yorkies.jpg

    Ah Peasant, you tell yourself whatever you need to to stop your hands shaking and help you get to sleep at nights about how frail and fragile we are after the LAST time you ticked us off.:cool:

    Truth is we are hardy little beasts bred in the 19th century to kill rats in coal mines (where German Shepherds might be a bit inconvenient, particularly as their poo is often bigger than we are. Our poo is a LOT smaller and much more suited to an enclosed, coal mining, environment, if you think about it.).

    They say Queen Victoria took a shine to us and liked us bred small, but frankly we'd never give a fig what silly ould bats want, we are small because we CHOOSE to be.

    Her on the left (more of a "coffee mug" Yorkie) can pop out pups like shelling peas if she is let (she isn't any more), while some of us have more self respect *sniffs* (or more likely don't get asked by anybody cos they're snotty little porcelain teacups), but apart from that it is pretty much impossible to qualify for the Magdalen Laundry under any circumstances if you are spayed.

    Peasant is welcome to call round any time he likes and MAKE OUR DAY by trying to carry us somewhere, let alone everywhere. :D

    We are sturdy little souls who will still be doing Duracell bunny impersonations on our own four feet LONG after the Peasants of this world have fallen by the wayside in sheer exhaustion.

    :rolleyes:

    The really old breeds like King Charles Spaniels, Pekeneses and Egyptian Pharoahs get a lot of health problems (with eyes, hips and mummy's curses), but we are a relatively young, long lived, breed who are usually as fit as fleas.

    The only reason everybody doesn't have Yorkies is that we COST A FORTUNE...


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    aare wrote:
    The really old breeds like King Charles Spaniels, Pekeneses and Egyptian Pharoahs get a lot of health problems (with eyes, hips and mummy's curses), but we are a relatively young, long lived, breed who are usually as fit as fleas.

    The only reason everybody doesn't have Yorkies is that we COST A FORTUNE...

    So now we know that you're not poor ...yipieeh!! for you ...

    Please note ...it's not yorkies as such that I have an issue with ...it's the craze of miniaturisation, the breeding of so called "Teacup" versions of any toy breed. It is very detrimental to the health of both the individual dog and the breed as awhole ...all to satisfy yet another human whim.

    If you don't want to take my word for it ...please read the following:

    http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=179863
    and from the Yorkie breeders association
    http://www.ytca.org/faq.html

    Why create demand for something that is not good for the dog or for the breed ...they'll just end up sharing the fate of their sick "older" breed cousins.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    So now we know that you're not poor ...yipieeh!! for you ...

    BEFORE you spend what you think you can borrow in advance...

    'fraid I am poor, but CONNECTED. :D

    My Yorkies are both pound puppies, which IS an option if you are prepared to wait and take adult dogs.

    Yorkies and other small dogs DO show up in the pounds quite often, I think not only because they are often stolen then dumped in a different area when discovered to be neutered but also because they seem so helpless that when they do run off people assume they won't survive the night and are too afraid of what they might find to look for them.

    The smallest of my girls is about 4lbs and as fit as a flea, the other is actually shorter in the body but more given to tubbiness!

    Peasant, why don't you just let people make up their own minds about what they want?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Peasant, why don't you just let people make up their own minds about what they want?

    For one simple reason:
    Whoever is about to get/buy a dog is not buying/getting a consumers item or accessory or some other mindless, stupid THING, but a living, sensient being.
    And that person is not just getting/buying a dog but taking over the responsibility for that fellow being.

    People "want" many things ... and I can certainly understand people wanting a certain type of dog. But once that "wanting" is to the detriment of the dog, I think it is only right to trow in some cautious remarks. And in the case of "teacup/miniature" dogs it is not only the dog that suffers but also the "consumer" who gets an inferior "product" for more money ...as stated in my first link above, and I quote:

    Maltese:

    "There is no such thing as a 'teacup Maltese.' Unknowledgeable
    breeders use this cutesy phrase as a 'marketing term' for the smallest
    Maltese, but in reality, there is only one Maltese breed, ranging from
    about 2 pounds up to about 10 pounds.

    You do NOT want a Maltese under 3 or 4 pounds, no matter how cute it
    is. These individuals are great risks in the health department. Their
    bones are fragile, there is not enough room in their mouth for healthy
    teeth, and their internal organs are often very weak.

    They tend to have lots of health problems and great difficulties
    regulating their blood sugar. Often they live a few years and then
    their owners wake up one morning and find them dead in their baskets
    from sudden heart or other organ failure.

    To make matters worse, some breeders actually charge MORE for these
    high-risk Maltese. There are breeders on the Internet taking advantage
    of naive buyers with prices of $1000, $1500, $2000 for "teacup"
    Maltese. Don't be taken! Stick with Maltese who will be 4 pounds and
    up at maturity. And don't pay more than $400 or $500."


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    A Maltese Terrier and a Yorkshire Terrier are two different breeds...of different sizes...

    :rolleyes:

    You *want* to tell other people how to live their lives, that doesn't make it right either...

    Now c'mon, try to stop attacking people for not thinking the way you tell them to...

    Anyway, it's all moot...once they get suited up I can't hold 'em...

    yorkiepatrol.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    aare

    contrary to you, who absolutely insists on instructing me on how to run MY life, I couldn't give a hoot about how others run theirs ... (as long as they treat their animals well)

    All I'm doing is giving some information that might not be widely known. What robbo2 does or doesn't do with it is beyond my control ...but he/she might actually be thankful for it ... you never know ...

    And yes, I am actually aware of the fact that Maltese and Yorkie are two different type dogs ...that doesn't change the FACT though, that miniaturisation is not good for the dog ...any dog (neither is gigantism, by the way).
    As far as I recall, robbo2 specifically asked for breeders of MINIATURE Yorkies ...hence my reply.

    And stop your cute Yorkie-pic attacks:D :D:D or i shall see myself forced to fight back with cute fluffy dog piccies like such:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    you, who absolutely insists on instructing me on how to run MY life,

    One example please???
    robbo2 specifically asked for breeders of MINIATURE Yorkies ...

    You do know that some Yorkie are almost as big as a small collie?


    And stop your cute Yorkie-pic attacks

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    Those are SCARY YORKIE PICS!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    You do know that some Yorkie are almost as big as a small collie?

    Yeeees, I do ...believe it or not ...

    Obviously robbo2 knows that too and doesn't want one that big ...otherwise he/she wouldn't have asked specifically for a breeder of MINIATURE Yorkies.

    (And in case you still haven't understood what this is all about ..."Miniature Yorkshire Terrier" is not a breed, but a fashion where inferior breeders hawk off sick ,little underweight and undersized results of bad breeding to an unsuspecting public at inflated prices in order to cater for the latest fashion whims as demonstrated by countless popstars and their "teacup" doggies lately. All to the detriment of both dog and owner)

    Now, give your BIG Yorkies a huggle and tell them to calm you down again ...and as for the he said -she said -who instructs who ...let's not go there, ok?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭aare


    Peasant, why don't you just give up and ADMIT you are addicted to my Yorkie porn???

    :D

    Truth is that the girls are pretty small (except from side to side in one case!) and it still amazes me how sturdy they are.

    But I remember the first tiny dog I ever touched was a stray Maltese and I was so scared I'd break her that I rushed her into a friend in town who was a trained groomer rather than bath her myself (trust me she ONKED!!).

    When you are used to big dogs (and I love those too, but they don't suit my circumstances) it is easy to imagine the little dogs aren't quite real dogs, until you know them...


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