Indipendant college mag?

TomTom

ok, get a name sorted and then we ask netsoc to set that up as a subdomain and get some space. I'll cover the costs of that with netsoc as i'm working. Once up then we should setup a site structure similar to a paper. in a similar fashon to unisons site. While thats been setup maybe people write what they want without assigning roles and we all then review each other work and from that we can dicide who is strongest in certain areas. If anyone who is interisted in wiriting was to choose a topic from a list like below and write an article over the next week then we could get the ball rolling and have something to work with content wise.

Just putting this as a proposed list, if you want it changed just post and i'll edit it.

• College News
• Local News (will try get stuff from the nationalist)
• National news that will effect students (suppose we can take snippits from national papers)
• Sport, national
• Sport, local and college
• Current Affairs
• Local History (Iamxavier)
• Amenities, local and college (Iamxavier)
• Sections on bus and train timetables and transport in general
• Technology
• Clubs and socs
• LGB Issues
• Feedback
• Jokes, puzzles and stuff (TomTom)

Redrocket

if you want it to be popular your going to have to throw it into people's faces like the blurb. i dont think the majority of the college are computer friendly enough to go to a website on their own free will

daithimac

it would be important that the mag have a common thread of humor running through it which will draw people to read the sections that they would normally steer clear off in a magazine. i'm thinking something like maxim, the onion, or www.whitehouse.org. Might be no harm to brush up on libel laws before getting started as ya could end up with someone slaging someone else off and it leading to legal threats as has happened to other sites and magazines.

TomTom

maybe if there was a satarical page, like letters to the editor type thing, that would cover the humour. As something thats completly snerry is not really help full as a college mag.

daithimac

i wasn't thinking snerry as such but more something that dosen't take its self that seriously. I mean keep it serious when thats what the situation demands such as in articles, reports etc, but to have a general humorous tone to the publcation when to do so would not be in poor taste

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

So who would like to write what? I would like about amenities and history, could you edit that and put names beside the list? I am going to start writing a peice on the local history. We have to set a deadline for the "Publication". Paul can you sort out a site? Please?

I think a joke/quiz page should be put in also.

One last thing, what are we going to call it? I have no idea's

balkieb2002

Ah so this is where you have been hiding ciaran!!

Btw nice idea... never knew ya had it in ya!

Pff wheres the page dedicated to compsoc

s4dd

ah, there'd be no charge needed for webspace/email addresses etc. (cept for tomtom's membership fees!! )

Also, what do you mean "sort out a site"? Like, code one?! Lad you can't be serious.. do you realise how heafty my workload is atm? I mean.. i guess i could start going through the channels to set up a subdomain, but we can't go to the college asking for an itcarlow.ie subdomain without something to show for it... i'm still a little warey as to how much people are going to go for it/how much effort people are going to put in... i think, as an idea, it needs to be alot clearer before anyone sets out on doing any actual work for it...

By the by, are we going for printed or web based? (we could always just spam a newsletter to every email address @itcarlow.ie.. kidding, ofc)

-edit-

Another format suggestion could be a student run "student portal"... could have articles and such.. perhaps even with a wiki for stuff like "local history", "urban myths" and even sports related news/results/teams etc.... in fact, the possibilities for such a thing would be heafty..... but perhaps i digress

TomTom

I ment get articles together and maybe use an open source cms type thing for such publications and then approach techs once its prepared. Did not mean that s4dd do the site.
Only put myself in for jokes and stuff at the moment so people in the college can fill up the rest.

wheres me jumpa

lads id be more than happy to code this site. however as stated above we need to be a lot more clear about what were doing here. from what i can see in this thread we seem to be drifting towards reproducing the blurb. the idea of the project was to create something different. something with a purpose.

which is why we need to get together and actually talk about what its going to be. we could book a room somewhere in the col and discuss it. considering we have less than a month before were on xmas hols we are running out of time.

blu_sonic

TomTom wrote:

ok, get a name sorted and then we ask netsoc to set that up as a subdomain and get some space. I'll cover the costs of that with netsoc as i'm working. Once up then we should setup a site structure similar to a paper. in a similar fashon to unisons site. While thats been setup maybe people write what they want without assigning roles and we all then review each other work and from that we can dicide who is strongest in certain areas. If anyone who is interisted in wiriting was to choose a topic from a list like below and write an article over the next week then we could get the ball rolling and have something to work with content wise.

Just putting this as a proposed list, if you want it changed just post and i'll edit it.

• College News
• Local News (will try get stuff from the nationalist)
• National news that will effect students (suppose we can take snippits from national papers)
• Sport, national
• Sport, local and college
• Current Affairs
• Local History (Iamxavier)
• Amenities, local and college (Iamxavier)
• Sections on bus and train timetables and transport in general
• Technology
• Clubs and socs
• LGB Issues
• Feedback
• Jokes, puzzles and stuff (TomTom)

i'd very much like to scribble on about the eircom league in national sport, i'm afraid i'm not as well in the now on the gaa as i should be i'm a asual gaa supporter, i'm also a huge music fanboy/nerd so i'd be happy to help on music maybe an ICon page? aka irish content (music wise)

s4dd

You can put me down for technology.. Also i'd love to be on the editorial team.. perhaps even be in involved in feedback response No doubt owen will be doing the LGB issues... i'd love to do some wee puzzles too.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Sure I thought that everyone would be involved in the feedback part of it.

Monk would also be interested writing about technologies, but he seems to be a bit forum shy.

TomTom

Ok meeting has to be arranged, is there anyway of including my in it via skyp or something similar?

I'll update names to the list in a bit. Has anyone had contact with eoin to see if he can write an article just to be sure.

I'd say we will get a lot of people wanting to write about the same issues so I think draft articles should be submitted and reviewed by an editorial team. Just in my opinion there should be 3 or 5 members of the editorial team, this way there is never an even vote and its looked at from different views. I'd love to be on it but as i'm not in the college i'll step back if ye want and let students do it.

I figure picking of an editorial team should be done in the forum of nominate, second and elect.

I also think we might be better moving this entir magazine to the bitbucket forums. I want to talk to paul about a few thing in relation to that but we are very public domain here and its just a college thing after all.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Eh I think it's perfect here, for the time being. When we have the site up and running we can have a forum for editors and main writers.

I would like to be on the editorial team also. I think you should too tomtom as you have put alot effort into it.

So someone pick a date and we will meet then. I would have no problem meeting friday.

By the looks of things it won't be done until after xmas. I would like to get one issue out before then though.

TomTom

In that case I nominate S4DD

s4dd

eh? nominate me for what?

And i do think a more private or at least "dedicated" forum would be called for at some stage. There are alot of topics to be discussed, so multiple threads of discussion would be preferable.

Also, myself and tom were looking through different website CMS solutions last night and i think we found the perfect one... i "think" tom agrees, but i don't want to put words in his mouth Either myself or Tom should have a working test site set up sometime today so the rest of you crazy cats can have a look.

TomTom

Aye, I agree. Its designed for what we are hoping to do and would be perfect for it. I'll have mine uptoday so people can play with it.

TomTom

nominate for editor

cyperplex

If any of u guys need help about the new mag, just drop me a message and i will let ya know .. i know what you's all are saying about the blurb and its lack of interesting (any) information !!!

I would be glad to assist ya's in any way i can

Owen Corcoran
Societys Officer /Lgb Officer IT Carlow

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

mmm, we have a mole.

Could you maybe write something on the society events? I think we need all the help we can get, thanks for the offer.

When the site is up we can further discuss this topic there. yea?

blu_sonic

i nominate Xavier for an editorial pos

UnrealQueen

I nominate Xavier for editor. He seems like a really nice guy with a nice personality. Also, this magazine is his idea:D

TomTom

The general way this goes is that someone nominates a person, then they are seconded by someone else. If there are more than the number required we have a vote base on the people and they are selected.

At the moment we have,
Xavier - Seconded
S4dd - Nominated




Not sure id xavier was nominating me so i'll leve myself out until its clear.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Well I did nominate you Tom.

I think that there should be a editorial team. Three would be perfect. But that's my opinion.

So when exactly do you guys want this to take place? It's getting very close to Xmass and exams are comming up...

elvis2002

I vote for s4dd too, he's the best.

Redrocket

yeah i vote for paul, he's the real man for the job

ShayK1

I too nominate s4dd, I think we'll all agree his work in netsoc shows dedication (sp?), commitment(again with the spelling??) and ability.

s4dd

oh, and i second tomtom for certain... cept i'm still not certain exactly what we're voting for

TomTom

Editorial team.

In that case its me, xavier and s4dd. You know when we come accross something people have doubts about or in the event of something being a bit risque we will have to make a judgment on weather it goes in or not. Content is a general thing i think.

The site we were looking at to use fo it is props. I still have not go around to getting a copy uploaded to my own space so we can pull it apart but a link to the project is http://props.sourceforge.net/index.php

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Excellent, it looks good, the props software. Now all we need is a date, a meeting for all that are to be involved in the first issue. We need to allocate articles and the like. For the moment I will get some information together that won't go out of date too soon.

-EDIT-

Paul maybe we could meet in the college one of the days next week, you have my number.

Redrocket

what happened the magazine?

s4dd

Lainey Clean Collie wrote:

Paul maybe we could meet in the college one of the days next week, you have my number.

Indeed.. and you have mine Care to prepare me as to what i'm in for in this so called "meeting"?

-edit-

oh, also.. after lots of headaches (more than expected tbh) the props cms first version is up.. i'm still messing with it so expect lots of changes, but have a look and we can decide where to go from here...

Click Here

(and i know it looks crap, i'm working on it!)

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I know it's basic but it's good.

Will people be required to log in to read the mag? Or is that just for posting purposes?

Well this is the next step, glad to see this getting off the ground, thanks paul.

Yea I still have your number paul

s4dd

i suspect it would be best to have people to log in to post any kind of feedback so we can keep track of messers... but not to read articles.

lashes

Hey

can someone explain what this mag is all about. i didnt quite get the jist of it. thanx

blu_sonic

you should go to the designers for layout and graphic ideas, they'd be happy to get their names on board, also i'll be online if y'all need help in that department

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Lisa, the mag will be about you. The students interests. Basically we want to have other reading material for the college students. Something that's actually interesting.

daithimac

That "what the heck" article was a work of pure journalistic greatness. but i was wondering is it going to work on the basis of when an article is submitted and read over its put up straight away or will it all go up together once a week or bi-weekly

Misumi

Hi, a couple of idea re mag

Funding: Set up a society and get loads of members. The SU will have to give you your quota of funds then whether they like it or not.

Or approach a national newspaper or local paper and ask for sponsorship (and advice?)

Solve your funding problem by selling ad space. Think of the third-level market, think banks, entertainment venues, food + drink industry + how much they’d pay to advertise on a college newspaper. All newspapers have and need ads to survive, you're not going to be any different, so you should work with it.

Look at other third-level newspapers – DIT (sponsored by the Indo), UCD (sponsored by the trib), TCD etc... and see how they do it, maybe ring + ask for advice. Find out the previous winners of The Guardian’s student newspaper of the year, and look at their templates, not to copy but to know your market and generate ideas.

Content: Decide who this newspaper/mag is for and what message you want to put across. Content will then be straightforward.

Design: Look at magazines, newspapers, decide what you like, what looks good. Practically, how are you going to lay the mag out? Using Quark? Coyote? Publisher?

And finally get a good sub

best of luck!

TomTom

Cheers for that Misumi

At the moment with hosting on college bandwidth, advertising is not allowed. I think we should maybe throw a bit of content into the mag so we have something to work around for design reasons. I do think we whould treat this at a trial and keep the SU involved.

s4dd

okay, there are a number of things wrong with the above post.. nice as the sentiment is..

at this stage we need to have a meeting in person methinks

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Waits patiently...

Set a time and date. At this stage we should have something to show...

s4dd

so far it's your project xavier.. take the intiative and plan something. if you don't, nobody else will!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

That's the spirit we don't want. Ah now paul, I wouldn't exactly have claim for it.

Sure can anyone meet this friday, sometime between 12 and 2? Talk about the site, exactly what articles we want, sponsership... any other proposals people may have.

s4dd

right oh, friday at 12

ShayK1

stevenk wrote:

what happened the magazine?

And excellent point Steve

lashes

hey guys

i think the new college mag would be a really great idea. we could actually post meaningful stuff in it rather than telling us how many pubs are in carlow and how cheap the booze is (as much as that can be good sometimes too). But i like the idea of students voicing their opinions about stuff ye should seriously go ahead with it!!!

Redrocket

well it seems decided that its a website now.
even though all the effort is going to be wasted on a website imo.

s4dd

nothing's been "decided"... i'm still for the idea of working closely with the SU and the *shudder* blurd