Mileage expenses

millertime

Hello im new to this forum and was woundering if anybody would be able to shead some light on my question........thanks in advance

I am going to be starting my first job in the new year and was woundering if i will be able to claim mileage expenses?

I will be doing about a 60 mile round trip in my own car everyday from my house to the office.

Thanks for any replys.....

dam099

millertime wrote:

Hello im new to this forum and was woundering if anybody would be able to shead some light on my question........thanks in advance

I am going to be starting my first job in the new year and was woundering if i will be able to claim mileage expenses?

I will be doing about a 60 mile round trip in my own car everyday from my house to the office.

Thanks for any replys.....

You cannot claim mileage for travelling from home to your office, mileage expenses are for trips from your office to clients/customers/suppliers etc.

BrianD

Nope. It would be all great if we could paid to turn up for work as well as getting paid. Technically, if you have a company car you should be including these trips in your private mileage (that is deducted from your expenses/salary)

millertime

Thanks for the replys..

But my office for the first 12months will be site based as i will be working for a construction consultancy firm.

Prob will be moved to a different site after that, will this make a difference....

thanks again...:)

BrianD

You will have to consult your contract of employment and see where your place of work actually is. If you are onsite you are entitled to claim mileage (well I suppose it depends if your boss feels like paying it). Generally the accepted formula is that which ever is the lesser journey between the site and either your home or office is what is paid. You'll need to consult your employer on the rate etc. Furthermore, it has an implication on your insurance as you are now using your vehicle for business purposes.

Kinetic^

As ^^^^^^^ said, check with your employer. I work out in clients place of business and get paid expenses. I recomend you double check with your employer rath than jumping to conclusions.

This thread might be a bit of motivation for you.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=295746

ButtermilkJack

Sorry if I missed this, but are you self-employed? If not, then sorry mate, nobody's going to pay you to come to work

BrianD

Yes and No, specialist contractors get away with charging travel expenses.

RainyDay

Keyser Soze 69 wrote:

As ^^^^^^^ said, check with your employer. I work out in clients place of business and get paid expenses. I recomend you double check with your employer rath than jumping to conclusions.

Even if the employer does agree to pay, Revenue may well not accept that this should be a tax-free payment and may deem it liable to income tax (given that the office in question is the normal place of work).

dingding

I think there was a recent public sector case where expenses were taxed on county councellors traveling to meetings in their place of work, they could not claim expenses to their place of work, this is consistant with the other posts on this thread.

BrianD

That's correct - but if his place of work is defined in his contract as place A and he is working in place B for a year then he is entitled to claim mileage for the lesser of the two journies between location B and A or Home. All depends on his contract of employment. Travelling expenses aren't taxed once they don't go over the Revenue guidelines.

RainyDay

BrianD wrote:

That's correct - but if his place of work is defined in his contract as place A and he is working in place B for a year then he is entitled to claim mileage for the lesser of the two journies between location B and A or Home. All depends on his contract of employment. Travelling expenses aren't taxed once they don't go over the Revenue guidelines.

It's not that simple. In general, Revenue state that 'Travel to and from home to work is private mileage' (from http://www.revenue.ie/faqs/faq_bik.htm). Simply referencing place A in his contract does not mean that mileage to B is automatically tax free. This would be a huge loophole for tax evasion. If his normal location of work is place B for 12 months, I'd be very doubtful that Revenue would permit tax-free mileage to/from B.

BrianD

In his contract it states his normal place of work (place A). in the course of his employment he goes to place B for 12 months. If he was a sales rep he could be rarely in the office. So what's the difference? Once he has defined place of work defined and abides by the Revenue rules he can claim his mileage allowance (if his company will pay it!). He can only claim for the lesser of the two journeys - Home to Place B or Office to Place B

RainyDay

Hi Brian - He's not a sales rep. That's the difference. He's based in a certain office for a period of 12 months. Revenue aren't dumb, and they aren't going to leave loopholes wide open for abuse.

BrianD

Yes but there are plenty of other jobs that require travel and I am sure the revenue have guidelines for his situation. He has a clear case for claiming mileage. All depends on where is place of work is stated in his contract.

RainyDay

Hi Brian - Revenue indeed have guidelines. Their guideline is that 'Expenses which are incurred by employees in travelling to and from the place of employment are not allowable for tax purposes and any re-imbursement of these expenses must be treated as pay' (see http://www.revenue.ie/leaflets/it51.htm and several other documents on their website). As stated above, they aren't going to leave a loophole wide open for abuse, as would be the case if 'All depends on where is place of work is stated in his contract' were true. Every employer would simply put another location on every employee's contract and pay them tax free mileage.