veggies mostly girls??

sportswear

if i get a reation from people when they find out im a veg, very often its that i am male - some people seem to percieve it as a gay attribute_?

so the poll is just to find out the balance between male and female vegs posting here......

having said that boards is predominantly male so we'll have to take that into the equation.......

el Bastardo

Well I wouldn't consider living on veggies a particularly 'manly' thing to do. Having said that, I'm fairly sure there must meat-loving gay men out there... somewhere

Tar.Aldarion

Vegetarian guy is me.

Out of all the vegetarians and vegans I know I would say there is slightly more girls.Not a big difference.It's not a homosexual attribute, being homosexual is the only trait.

Peanut

sportswear wrote:

if i get a reation from people when they find out im a veg, very often its that i am male - some people seem to percieve it as a gay attribute_?
...

It's the whole retarded "You're not a man if you don't hunt down your own food and rip it apart with your bare teeth" attitude.

Although I don't think it's as common as it used to be.

sportswear

Vegetarian guy is me.

- eh wha tar....... no offence i was sure you were a girl-:eek:

Tar.Aldarion

sportswear wrote:

- eh wha tar....... no offence i was sure you were a girl-:eek:

You and several thousand people on here, It's just my avatar fooling you-I'm quite used to it by now.
It's a draw in the poll!

Shabadu

My fiancé is a pescatarian, while I happily eat meat.

I'm the woman in the relationship btw.

And Tar, stop pretending you're a man.

Tar.Aldarion

It's so I don't get stalked as much.


*flutters eyelashes*

Ag marbh

I have to say the vegetarians I know are quite equal on the gender side of things. Anyone to say someone is gay for being a vegetarian probably thinks vegetarian means wearer of the pink t-shirt.

sportswear

ah here whos ticking the 'unsure box??'


come on now....... at the moment there is as many of them as females!!!!

Sangre

el Bastardo wrote:

Well I wouldn't consider living on veggies a particularly 'manly' thing to do. Having said that, I'm fairly sure there must meat-loving gay men out there... somewhere

Gays can't be vegitarian. Sausage isn't a vegetable.

RuggieBear

My girlie is a vegetarian

Anto and Moe

I'm not even sure if know any other vegetarian boys...

chern0byl

Not just "mostly girls" but mostly dublin girls who have never seen an animal bigger than a dog in their life.

White Rabbit

Sangre wrote:

Gays can't be vegitarian. Sausage isn't a vegetable.

Look Sangre I know you do law but yummying down on the lecturers sausage after college isn't the only way to pass those exams...

The Vegetarian Society was formed as a result of a meeting held at the hospital, Northwood Villa, on 30 September 1847. A resolution was passed unanimously that a society be formed called The Vegetarian Society. Mr James Simpson became the president, Mr William Horsell the secretary and Mr William Oldham the treasurer. The following year the first annual meeting was held in Manchester at Hayward's Hotel. There were then 478 members of the Society and 232 people attended the dinner which followed the AGM. A meeting of London Vegetarians was held in 1849, and they decided to form a committee to spread vegetarianism in London.

vibrant

I know more female veggies than male ones; mainly because two veggie blokes I know went back to their meat-eating ways!

I don't think vegetarianism a particularly feminine "thing". That said, the only vegan I know is male, and he's a total headwrecker with his one-sided conversations featuring various anti-meat industry statistics, etc. Complete & utter diet bore. Not only that but he'll make a song and dance production about how much healthier he is than anyone else.

Yeah. I try not to see him too often.

Gandhi

Lads tend to like eating meat (wings, meaty pizza etc) as a treat, whereas girls tend to go for chocolate / ice cream / sweet stuff. Probably makes it tougher for lads to go completely veggie.

Kolodny

Out of the 5 vegetarian friends I can think of, 3 are guys and 2 are girls and strictly speaking, one of the girls is actually pescatarian (though she claims to be veggie).

TheBigLebowski

Vegetarian and ALL man.

Tar.Aldarion

Sing it brother!!!

Lads tend to like eating meat (wings, meaty pizza etc) as a treat, whereas girls tend to go for chocolate / ice cream / sweet stuff. Probably makes it tougher for lads to go completely veggie.

Depends on persoanal taste but usally that is true. All I and some of my friends ate was meat and it is damn better than chocolate or anything!
Ah well.

JC 2K3

Girls go on diets much more than guys. Vegetarianism is a diet which is perceived to be very healthy(if balanced correctly) plus you get to save cute little animals in the process. Girls must be thinking, "How can I lose?". Whereas guys would be more like, "meh".

You'll notice also that vegetarian guys tend to be hardcore ones with hardcore pro-animal views, but girls are a lot more passive in being vegetarians. Then again it's all generalisation...

Peanut

JC 2K3 wrote:

...Vegetarianism is a diet....

Down with that sort of thing!

Diets are completely useless, however what food you choose to eat is a different thing.

Tar.Aldarion

Well I know it's not a diet for me!
Although on average vegetarians are 9kg lighter...this howeever is a stupid pointless statistic.

JC 2K3

diet
n.

1. The usual food and drink of a person or animal.
2. A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic weight loss.
3. Something used, enjoyed, or provided regularly: subsisted on a diet of detective novels during his vacation.


Therefore Vegetariansim IS a diet. Your diet is the food you choose to eat. Yes I know the second definition is what a diet(as in "going on a diet") is normally viewed as, but vegetatrianism is a regulated selection of foods(non meat ones) so it is a diet, whatever was you look at it.

Peanut

JC 2K3 wrote:

diet
n.

1. The usual food and drink of a person or animal.
2. A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic weight loss.
3. Something used, enjoyed, or provided regularly: subsisted on a diet of detective novels during his vacation.


Therefore Vegetariansim IS a diet. Your diet is the food you choose to eat. Yes I know the second definition is what a diet(as in "going on a diet") is normally viewed as, but vegetatrianism is a regulated selection of foods(non meat ones) so it is a diet, whatever was you look at it.

Yeah sure, just most people reading will interpret it as #2 unfortunately..
I'm basing this on people reminding me , "oh you can't eat meat.."
Sorry I can, but I don't want to...! Instant look of puzzlement...

Tar.Aldarion

JC 2K3 wrote:

diet
n.

1. The usual food and drink of a person or animal.
2. A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic weight loss.
3. Something used, enjoyed, or provided regularly: subsisted on a diet of detective novels during his vacation.


Therefore Vegetariansim IS a diet. Your diet is the food you choose to eat. Yes I know the second definition is what a diet(as in "going on a diet") is normally viewed as, but vegetatrianism is a regulated selection of foods(non meat ones) so it is a diet, whatever was you look at it.

It's not a diet for me insofar as a diet is for 'for medical reasons or cosmetic weight loss.' but of course it is a diet in the sense of number one.

Floyd Soul

Peanut wrote:

I'm basing this on people reminding me , "oh you can't eat meat.."
Sorry I can, but I don't want to...! Instant look of puzzlement...

I totally get that all the time!

"you want some pizza? Oh sorry I forgot you cant' eat that"

It's like I can eat tractor tyres if I wanna, I just chose not too. Choice is what its all about.

I'm a man and vegan.

Tar.Aldarion

'you don't eat meat but you like it, wtf, you are crazy...why would anybody do that.'*puzzled look*
and that's one of the better ones.
And for people that knew me before I was a vegetarian...some just don't believe/ can't accept it due to how picky I am and it is practically the only food like.
I remember it well, 'There is no way you could be vegetarian, that's impossible, do you eat anything!'.


my personal favourite, 'it's not healthy!!!, you'll be dead by the time you are twenty.'
I even got that one yesterday.:rolleyes:
I call upon people like david stroud,

Some people are still going to want to eat meat.. we do agree though that vegetarianism is a healthier diet.
--David Stroud of the American Meat Institute

direbadger

Most of the veggies and vegans I know are guys. But that's probably because I mostly hang around with boys.

Shabadu

Oh dear god. You duck out for a minute and look what happens?

Tar- for every health study claiming vegetarianism is a healthier way of life there is a partner contradicting it. "Oh he's from the American Meat institute, he must be a qualified nutritionist! Let's all quote this moron out of context and use it as a terrible crutch in a nonsensical argument!"

The reason 'people who eat meat' have a less healthy diet is that most people who are vegetarian eat more veg and fruit, and less fat. They have a healthier diet over all than people who subsist on fast food and junk.

This does not mean vegetarianism is intrinsically healthier than a meat eating diet. A balanced diet including some meat and fish is optimal.

Now- any more "Vegetarianism is healthier/meat eating is unhealthy" talk will result in bannings.

Peanut

:eek: Come on, banning this is way over the top.

I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed as it appears to be an open question. I would disagree that vegetarians necessarily have better eating habits than meat eaters, it doesn't follow that just because they don't eat meat that they will replace it with good alternatives.

The last good, believable, story I read about this was a German study involving 2000 people.

It found that for people who ate little or no meant, "..their lives are "significantly longer" than the general population".

However, like you say, it also found that the "optimum" was a small amount of meat consumption -
"For every 100 deaths among vegans, there were 66 among vegetarians and 60 among occasional meat eaters."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2838083.stm

:v: :v:..the sample size in the above could be bigger (a lot bigger I guess), but coupled with numerous other studies, I think it's completely fair to say some form of vegetarianism, or at least a cutting down of meat consumption, is intrinsically healthier than the status-quo. :v:

(apologies for off-topicness!)

Tar.Aldarion

Shabadu wrote:

Oh dear god. You duck out for a minute and look what happens?

Tar- for every health study claiming vegetarianism is a healthier way of life there is a partner contradicting it. "Oh he's from the American Meat institute, he must be a qualified nutritionist! Let's all quote this moron out of context and use it as a terrible crutch in a nonsensical argument!"

The reason 'people who eat meat' have a less healthy diet is that most people who are vegetarian eat more veg and fruit, and less fat. They have a healthier diet over all than people who subsist on fast food and junk.

This does not mean vegetarianism is intrinsically healthier than a meat eating diet. A balanced diet including some meat and fish is optimal.

Now- any more "Vegetarianism is healthier/meat eating is unhealthy" talk will result in bannings.

Vegetarianism isn't inherently heathier, it matters not whether you eat meat or not to have a healthy diet.
You can't say a balanced diet eating fish and meat is optimal, a balanced diet is.
I know of only a handful of people who eat a correctly balanced diet.
As for you talking about me saying that I was implying that vegetarianism is healthier than a diet of meat, I know it is not, apart from some diseases that have been proven but then again we know so little about so much that vegetarian food may cause a disease or two as well and we may not know it. Sure more vegetarians are healthier because of what you said, but that is, well due to what you said, more fruit/veg etc.I am not claiming that one is healthier than the other, both can be equally so.
Although the beef industry accepts and has stated that vegetarianism is a healthier option, it is only because people abuse the amount of meat they eat.The correlation between meat consumption and a wide range of degenerative diseases is well founded by health institutions and includes;
Osteoporosis, Kidney Stones and Gallstones, Diabetes , Multiple Sclerosis, Arthritis, Gum disease, Acne. Aggravated by animal food as well as cancer.
What kills most people in the developed world....heart problems relaterd to meat.
Simply put, not only do people eat too much meat at the moment, they eat way too much to be healthy and will have a shorter life because of it. Are people getting healthier?no, the consumption of meat is increasing always.
Now these are proven by the american health association but yet I would not even use these facts too much because it all relates back to the fact that nobody whom eats meat does so in proper quantities so I don't know if it is abuse or what that causes these, if it is, then vegetarianism is not healthier, if it isn't, then it is healthier but i doubt people would be at much risk at all if they ate a proper amount of meat. I personally don't know if those diseases are caused by abuse of meat or eating meat in general, maybe the more you eat the more likely etc. But the fact is, since everybody eats too much meat, yes at the moment, vegetarians are healthier. If people ate properly then this may not be the case.
Aside, if it was about health only and meat was unhealthier, pff I would eat meat.

You seem to have missed my joke with 'David Stroud' also, the point is, that with every stupid comment thrown at vegetarians, an equally stupid point can be thrown back. I am not like PETA. He is a guy that is high up in that institute but it matters not what he says and why would I claim what he says matters.I'm not ten. As i have studied both sides for years to seperate fact from trite tripe, why would I make a rookie debate mistake. I was saying that I say that response to people who randomly give their definitive answer, 'vegetarianism is not healthy'. I bite back with a response that people who know little about the subject in the first place have nothing to come back at. It shuts them up. It is not a quote somebody would use in intelligent debate, official facts from health institutes are the only ones you can use and so for both sides they are what is used. I did not mean, as you think, that his little line is a definitive answer. It is just a quote off some guy that shuts people up when they give me that ever so annoying statement.

EvilPixieOne

I know as many male veggies as females. However, all my guy friends who are veggies are always getting weird looks from anyone they tell, whereas I barely ever do. I suppose it's just the whole image that goes with vegetarians or something

Tar.Aldarion

well it's because men that are vegetarian are 'fags' :rolleyes:
What you say is very true, my male friends that are vegetarian or vegan and I get questioned way more about it -for a girl, it's understandable or something..- and people have this image of men not having empathy or something...and girls being ruled too much by it...because real men do not have emotions and their conscience is overruled by a good tasting food...

Le Rack

I'm only veggie since Halloween and Christmas was haaaard, I know a few other veggies on both sides and it's fairly equal so meh...

Floyd Soul

Would people think guy vegans are fags in the same way that theyd think guy vegetarians are fags?

Hope you got through your first veggie christmas ok!

Tar.Aldarion

Floyd Soul wrote:

Would people think guy vegans are fags in the same way that theyd think guy vegetarians are fags?

Hope you got through your first veggie christmas ok!

heh
If they think that about vegetarians then yes, they think it about vegans I suppose. It matters not what somebody so close minded thinks. The very low brow insult they use demeans them.
Le_Rack, for following holidays you can get a lot of good stuff from health shops and also you should make some vegetarian gravy. Did it for the first time this year and it was great. Every year my xmas meal gets better, mmm.
This year the health shop gave me my main course thing for free,it was class. No idea what it is-they just made something up and surrounded it in pastry, they specially just made something for a vegetarian when I asked and now they are putting on their permanant menu...mmm was good.

Le Rack

Floyd Soul wrote:

Would people think guy vegans are fags in the same way that theyd think guy vegetarians are fags?

Hope you got through your first veggie christmas ok!

IT was horrible!!!!! Especially only being veggie for two months prior! And having spent the day throwing up that I became veggie! (I got food poisening in a hotel)

I love veggie food, my mam cooks for me so yeah... I love this vegetable stew she makes, theres sweet potatoe and stuff in it which is lovely, and nut roast and lentil roast and veggie lasagne, chick-pea curry, love it!

In school it's great cuz everyone is always intrigued to se what I have for lunch and how well I'm holding up!

Peanut

Floyd Soul wrote:

Would people think guy vegans are fags in the same way that theyd think guy vegetarians are fags?

uhh I think you'd be lucky if someone knew the difference between vegan<->vegetarian in the first place

Le Rack

Peanut wrote:

uhh I think you'd be lucky if someone knew the difference between vegan<->vegetarian in the first place

Yeah I had loads of people asking me "So you don't eat eggs, milk, cheese, etc" When I became veggie and I had to explain the difference at least four times...

I'm vegan. I'm female. Being veg/vegan and being a guy is not gay. I find it attractive really. To know this guy has his own opinions and is different And that he cares about animals...

Le Rack

Is it difficult to be a vegan cuz so much everything really, contains all sorts of bits that come from animals?

(Sorry I couldn't phrase that better!)

Floyd Soul

Yeah, I'm not really getting any bad reactions TBH. Most people are interested to know what I eat is all really.

Tar.Aldarion

Le Rack wrote:

Is it difficult to be a vegan cuz so much everything really, contains all sorts of bits that come from animals?

(Sorry I couldn't phrase that better!)

You do have to avoid a lot of foods but there is a hell of a lot of foods for you discover. It's harder In ireland than in other countries I have been to but that said, it's should be ok. There are a lot of health food shops out there etc. If you cook your own food from recipes it is very cool because usually you have not even heard of the ingredients and they are good to search out. There are a lot of tasty things to choose from, the biggest problem with foods is labeling, knowing what each ingredient on the packet is and finding shoes.

Le Rack

Coolo... There's a big place in England, Airetam Storm knows about it, it's a special place to buy clothes and that for vegetarians...

Tar.Aldarion

www.veganline.com
www.veganstore.co.uk
www.vegshoes.com
If you need stuff, they are good.

Le Rack

Eh, I'm good, please slap me if you feel the need, but I'm not hugely worried about clothes and that, I don't wear leather/suede, okay I have a few pairs of shoes/boots but I've had them for ages so yeah....

shroomfox

Out of my veggie friends, the demographic breakdown is...(not including myself, all figures correct at time of print):

6 guys
1 girl

Although that probably just says more about how many girls I know.

All the other girls I know keep on trying to sneak meat into my food. What does that mean? I'm off to whatever the relationship's board around here is called.

Tar.Aldarion

persoanl issues :v:

Nobody I consider a friend would ever do that, well they had better not.

Peanut

shroomfox wrote:

All the other girls I know keep on trying to sneak meat into my food. What does that mean?

They're stoopid and haven't got anything better to do?

Kix

shroomfox wrote:

All the other girls I know keep on trying to sneak meat into my food. What does that mean?

<bad joke alert>

Perhaps they're hoping you'll reciprocate and "slip them some meat" in return?

*groan*

Sorry but the joke was just sitting there and no-one else had bitten...