My New Rig...

conzy

Very nice system, shop4memory usually take 2 days, and sorry about the confusion with the memory divider earlier i was thinking of athlon xp systems, that ram is brilliant it runs a 500mhz buy the timing are still 2.5-2-2-5 and you can get it to around 520mhz with a little extra voltage:

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/memory/Crucial-Ballistix-PC4000_5.html

IMHO the asus A8n-e would be better than the epox, epox make good boards but that asus has all the same settings and bios as a DFI lanparty ultra d which is a brilliant overclocker a lot of 3dmark records were set on that board and you can get it in komplett for €99

if you run a htt of 250 *9 that ram will fly at stock, but the cpu can do 2.6ghz easy so run a htt of 290 and use a divider, always keep the htt bus at 1000mhz or below there is no advantage in overcloking it and that does cause problems if it goes above 1000mhz so you will need to lower the hyper transport multi

brilliant system, good luck with it

Irishpimpdude

Thanks man i think im gonna go for an AMD Opteron 146, 2.0GHz is it worth the extra few quid?

conzy

No, its not worth it because they are the exact same only 200mhz difference and you are overclocking the system to 2.6ghz or more which is 600mhz better than the 146, the whole point of overclocking is to squeeze as much performance out of what you can afford;)

do you have windows xp, cause if you dont that is an extra €100

Irishpimpdude

Yes if i was to buy windows xp x64 would it make much of a difference?

gline

Irishpimpdude wrote:

Yes if i was to buy windows xp x64 would it make much of a difference?

no

Irishpimpdude

No difference at all?

gline

Irishpimpdude wrote:

No difference at all?

for normal usage... not really. minimul like 5% possibly

conzy

not really, it is hard to get 64bit drivers for everything as well so say goodd buy to printers,scanners cameras.........

and dong get vista when it comes out its riddled with DRM:mad:

Get windows xp home or professional and you can use a program like nlite to strip away the piesces of windows you dont want:

internet explorer
troubleshooting
welcome guide.....

basically any part of windows you dont use you cant get rid of it:D

conzy

look at this thread:

http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=61415

Irishpimpdude

Ok thanks so thats a definate no go!

savemejebus

bad news

ram has been sold out since saturday

commited

Irishpimpdude

****!!!! what ram should i get now? its like 74 a stick on komplett should i get it?

Edit: Just checked email, how come they havent sent me an email to confirm this?

savemejebus

that ram on komplett for 74 is not pc 4000 so it's not really the same. I don't know enough about ram to advise you (guys like Gline, Col Loki and Wizzard are the kings at this) but i know enough to advise you not to rush in and buy any old stuff without doing research or getting reccomendations because if you intend to overclock (and from this thread i think you do) bad ram can really limit your performance gains.

just my 2 cent

edit: The ram is €85 a stick on crucial so 170 for a gig and 7 shipping is €177 (interesting note: when i found out the ram was out of stock at shop 4 memory the guy basically said it was being sold off because it was crap and they weren't stocking it anymore. kinda strange seeing all the good reviews on the web)

Irishpimpdude

Yeah ok thanks... did shop4memory email you telling you it was sold out?

savemejebus

nah i was calling, asking why it hadn't shipped yet (i chose dhl shipping) and the guy said that there were only 2 left on friday and they sold on saturday. They still haven't updated the site though :sigh.

the next most tempting thing i've seen is this http://www.shop4memory.com/memory/geil-pc4000.asp but it's out of stock and i don't know much about it.

gline

savemejebus wrote:

nah i was calling, asking why it hadn't shipped yet (i chose dhl shipping) and the guy said that there were only 2 left on friday and they sold on saturday. They still haven't updated the site though :sigh.

the next most tempting thing i've seen is this http://www.shop4memory.com/memory/geil-pc4000.asp but it's out of stock and i don't know much about it.

go for some decent ocz stuff if u can, its good stuff

conzy

I agree with Gline, OCZ Platinium Rev 2 is brilliant i have it, it is ddr 400 but overclocks up to ddr 600 if you loosen the timings, at stock it is 2-2-2-5 which is the best you can get, its matched dual-channel

But the best thing is it wont hold back your overclock and you wont need to use a divider which can be a pain to work out, so you can raise your htt (fsb) to 290*9 which is 2.6ghz and that system will kick ass

The ram in the screenshot i posted is OCZ platinium rev 2 and it made ribbons of all the P4 systems, the only problem is that it is €209 but worth every cent

Irishpimpdude

I dont know if i can afford it... can anyone recommend any other good value ram?

conzy

It work out €10 cheaper than the system commited recommended???????????
which was under your budget???? it will come to around €680 alltogether

Irishpimpdude

Ok Here is the system im gonna start ordering tomorrow...


AMD Opteron 144, 1.8GHz, Socket 939, 1MB, BOXED w/fan - €145
Asus A8N-E, nForce4 Ultra, Socket-939, ATX, S-ATA, GbLAN, Sound, PCI-Ex16 - €99
NEC DVD±RW burner, ND-3550A, 16x, Dual, Silver OEM - €45.5
Samsung SpinPoint P120S 250GB SATA2 8MB 7200RPM NCQ - €121
1Gb kit EL DDR PC-3200 Platinum Rev. 2 - OCZ - €209
Asus Radeon X850PRO 256MB GDDR3, PCI-Express, HDTV, DVI, ViVo, Retail - €250
17" Acer Tft - 12ms - €180
Antec Super LANBOY - €109
Logitech Cordless Desktop MX3000 - €95

Total = 1253 plus around 30 delivery from different sites... anyone think i should change anything or is this a killer system? for my second build?

DemonOfTheFall

If I were you I'd save €100 on RAM and put it into the video card. You'll see WAY more performance out of a fast video card than fast ram. 210€ for a Gig of ram is extortionate.

I really really dont get any reason to stick yourself with that X850 Pro when you could get nice normal ram and an X850XT...

gline

when overclocking.. good ram is needed. Are u sure about the lanboy case???

masteroftherealm

Get Geil UltraX BH5 Ram for half that

gline

masteroftherealm wrote:

Get Geil UltraX BH5 Ram for half that

where?

masteroftherealm

Overclockers(",) 79.99 for a gig.
GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 UltraX-BH5 CAS2 (GLX1GB3200DC) (MY-042-GL)
Hand Picked 5ns GeIL Chips. Enhanced SPD for Dual Channel DDR motherboards. Tin Coated Platinum Copper Heat Spreader with Fashion Designed Retail box.

- 184pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered, high performance DDR memory modules
- Hand Picked GeIL Ultra-X TSOP 5ns 32x8 DDR Chip
- 6 Layers Ultra Low Noises Shielded PCB with Gold 30u" Plating
- Optimized SPD for Dual Channel DDR motherboards
- Coated Platinum Copper Heat Spreader
- CAS 2 5-2-2 @ DDR400 PC3200
- 2.55V-2.95V
- Retail package with blue acrylic case and instructions
- Lifetime return to manufacturer warranty

With Temperature Thermometer.


Full Specification

Price: £79.95 (£93.94 Including VAT at 17.5%)

Irishpimpdude

You know a good case gline? a cheap one though lol! this comp is costing way over my budget! lol and should i go for that ram?

masteroftherealm

Em case wise how muxh your budget and me ang g will argue over the ram then give you an opinoin.

GLine think TCCD or BH-5?

masteroftherealm

Oh and drop the X850 and get a X800GTO2 guanenteed overclock to X850XT PE.. See this thread..http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054851301

Irishpimpdude

About 150 for the case...

masteroftherealm

Hmmm akaska ak-62
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_Akasa.html
or Lian Li PC61
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Lian_Li_Cases.html
or Coolermaster Wavemaster
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Coolermaster_Cases_126.html

gline

masteroftherealm wrote:

Em case wise how muxh your budget and me ang g will argue over the ram then give you an opinoin.

GLine think TCCD or BH-5?

nah sure im getting bh5 for my new rig, just didnt know it was that cheap. i'd defo go bh5 over tccd if the mobo can support high voltages though.. which im not sure the A8n will

masteroftherealm

Yeah true. In that boards TCCD ram would probably be a safer bet... Or go for thr DFI and the BH-5

Irishpimpdude

lol i have no idea what you guys or talking about and tbh i dont really like any of those cases except for the first... got anymore in mind? lol

masteroftherealm

gline wrote:

nah sure im getting bh5 for my new rig, just didnt know it was that cheap. i'd defo go bh5 over tccd if the mobo can support high voltages though.. which im not sure the A8n will

Yeah getting some BH-5 myself. Just wish they did 2GB kits in it.

masteroftherealm

Irishpimpdude wrote:

lol i have no idea what you guys or talking about and tbh i dont really like any of those cases except for the first... got anymore in mind? lol

Well the akasa is one of the best cases out the IMO

conzy

The bh5 ddr400 wont overclock to ddr600 speeds so he will need to get the faster modules which are nearly the same price as the OCZ, and whats wrong with the lanboy

2* 120mm fans, one with blue neon
window
screwless drive bays with rubber to dampen noise
very light ideal for lanparties
very sturdy

and you can get it for less than a €100 its a great case

gline

masteroftherealm wrote:

Yeah getting some BH-5 myself. Just wish they did 2GB kits in it.

yeh true man

masteroftherealm

And bends like **** all over the place and has rubbish cooling.
And the BH-5 is the best ram out there due to memory dividers ;p

Irishpimpdude

Yeah i think i will go with the lanboy... but im also considering the akasa

Edit:Just read your last post hmm not too sure now lol!

masteroftherealm

Irishpimpdude wrote:

Yeah i think i will go with the lanboy... but im also considering the akasa

Dont say I didnt warn ya ;p (Ive had one)

Irishpimpdude

lol i edited my post! hehe

gline

yeh lanboy is like a wafer

Irishpimpdude

ok **** the lanboy lol!!!

masteroftherealm

Yeah cool case til ya actually use it

Irishpimpdude

Ok i was thinking of going for GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC3200 Value
Dual Channel Memory Kit would this be any good? and i dont really like the look for that case got any others in mind?

masteroftherealm

Nope not if ya wanna overclock

Irishpimpdude

Okay then... what about this case? http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/shop/db.cgi?view=1&id=8999&type=6&path=14x122x539

masteroftherealm

Yeah supposed to be good. Very sturdy and heavy

Irishpimpdude

Kool then maybe i will go with that so what you guys think should i but the ocz stuff or not? lol! im confused