what are acceptable pings

thetourist · 15-12-2005 5:04pm

got average of 70ms over 50 pings to call of duty

Peanut · 15-12-2005 5:36pm

zilog_jones wrote:

Dunno about wireless LANs, ping-wise. I think in my friend's house he was getting about 15ms between their crap old PC (w/ 802.11g adaptor on stinky USB1.1) and their Netopia router - might have been higher though...

You should only get something like a +2/3ms addition going through a WIFI router in your house, although it depends on the brand and settings etc.

For a wireless ISP, you can't say in advance, only that some services use a type of time spread interleaving of packets which can slow things down (ripwave afaik). More important though is just pure wireless congestion with your ISP.

Drapper · 15-12-2005 5:40pm

Peanut wrote:

You should only get something like a +2/3ms addition going through a WIFI router in your house, although it depends on the brand and settings etc.

For a wireless ISP, you can't say in advance, only that some services use a type of time spread interleaving of packets which can slow things down (ripwave afaik). More important though is just pure wireless congestion with your ISP.

my wifi has >1ms from notebook to Router ! Netgear 624T

Steffano2002 · 15-12-2005 8:05pm

Drapper wrote:

my wifi has >1ms from notebook to Router ! Netgear 624T

You mean <1ms?

Steffano2002 · 15-12-2005 8:06pm

gumboots wrote:

got average of 70ms over 50 pings to call of duty

POst the actual results gumboots! Is the ping regular or up and down? Are there massive spikes?

thetourist · 16-12-2005 4:27am

Steffano2002 wrote:

POst the actual results gumboots! Is the ping regular or up and down? Are there massive spikes?

will do it tomorrow, thanks - on bloody nights

ps just set up eircom broadband on a customers crappy old pc - the person prob couldnt tell broadband from dialup and their pings to google was about 50 or something - i nearly cried

Snowbat · 16-12-2005 8:11am

Where the gateway is depends on the network implementation. If you run a router at home, your gateway is the router and it should ping < 4ms. If you do not run a router at home, your gateway is located at the ISP's point of presence and considerably higher pings could be normal.

The box that www.google.ie points to can change at times (sometimes to servers located in other countries). Better to ping the IP address listed by other posters to get a fairer comparison. Another factor is large ISPs tend to have better peering arrangements and connectivity with other ISPs. When using a smaller ISP you may see long convoluted routes to some sites where a large ISP would have a more direct route with lower latency. Use traceroute (Linux) or tracert (Windows) to check.

zilog_jones · 16-12-2005 10:43am

Ah, I was assuming the gateway was his router/modem/whatever.

Mutant_Fruit · 16-12-2005 11:43am

With IBB (and other wireless providers probably), you should have a ping to your ISP's gateway server of definately less than 5ms. With ADSL providers, i think the average ping is about 25-30ms to the ISP's gateway.

With wireless providers, pings to irish servers can be as good as 20-30ms ingame. Of course, with IBB's network in a right state, with (currently) 18% packetloss and horrible pingspikes within their network, don't expect to see smooth gameplay anywhere. ADSL providers typically are about 30ms higher (due to extra latency getting to the ISP's gateway), so you'd expect ingame pings as good as 50-60ms ingame on a good irish server.

A ping to your own router should be <1ms.

thetourist · 16-12-2005 7:07pm

pings to my router are <1 alright

pings to IBB's gateway are around 50-60 but with spikes

With IBB (and other wireless providers probably), you should have a ping to your ISP's gateway server of definately less than 5ms. With ADSL providers, i think the average ping is about 25-30ms to the ISP's gateway.

i always assumed wireless isp's would have had the higher latency

Use traceroute (Linux) or tracert (Windows) to check.

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [66.249.89.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.2.1
  2    49 ms    65 ms    73 ms  KK02-fe-0-0-1-175-mtnugent.irishbroadband.ie [87
.192.81.33]
  3    60 ms    64 ms    69 ms  LX02-fe-0-0-0-10-ballyoskill.irishbroadband.ie [
83.141.117.94]
  4   106 ms    88 ms    79 ms  LX01-fe-0-0-0-10-portlaoise.irishbroadband.ie [8
3.141.117.110]
  5    99 ms    58 ms    74 ms  DN05-fe-1-3-0-397-esb.irishbroadband.ie [87.192.
233.1]
  6   132 ms    70 ms    79 ms  DN04-as1-0-guinness.irishbroadband.ie [83.141.11
7.1]
  7    88 ms    99 ms    85 ms  DN42-as0-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231
.52.153]
  8   113 ms    74 ms    73 ms  DN42-ge-0-2-0-50-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [62.2
31.52.157]
  9   143 ms   104 ms   145 ms  lvl3gw.thn.packetexchange.net [212.187.197.193]

 10    74 ms    76 ms   103 ms  so-1-3-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.3.29]

 11   107 ms   129 ms    74 ms  ae-0-54.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.146
]
 12   282 ms   224 ms   205 ms  as-0-0.bbr1.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.1.133]
 13   282 ms   215 ms   219 ms  ae-14-55.car4.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.123.142]

 14   351 ms   324 ms   357 ms  64.152.102.130
 15   399 ms   369 ms   349 ms  po12-0.cr2.nrt1.asianetcom.net [202.147.50.146]

 16   330 ms   331 ms   343 ms  gi1-0.gw1.nrt4.asianetcom.net [202.147.1.117]
 17   352 ms   365 ms   412 ms  GoogleInc.gw1.nrt4.asianetcom.net [203.192.131.7
0]
 18   362 ms   359 ms   345 ms  216.239.47.54
 19   329 ms   347 ms   335 ms  66.249.89.99

Trace complete.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gumboots
got average of 70ms over 50 pings to call of duty
POst the actual results gumboots! Is the ping regular or up and down? Are there massive spikes?

aparantly not as good today !!!!

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\bob and jan>ping -n 25 195.242.236.40

Pinging 195.242.236.40 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=322ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=85ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=81ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=143ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=85ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=175ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.242.236.40: bytes=32 time=155ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 195.242.236.40:
    Packets: Sent = 25, Received = 25, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 70ms, Maximum = 322ms, Average = 117ms

C:\Documents and Settings\bob and jan>

Steffano2002 · 16-12-2005 7:22pm

gumboots wrote:

2 49 ms 65 ms 73 ms KK02-fe-0-0-1-175-mtnugent.irishbroadband.ie [87
.192.81.33]

I consider that: crap! And your ping test to the Call of Duty server is just atrocious... You couldn't play online with that! Ring IBB (good luck!) and get them to have a look. Have you switched off your antenna lately? Can help... Sometimes... Maybe...

thetourist · 16-12-2005 8:10pm

Have you switched off your antenna lately?

will try that - i suppose it's just switching off the poe box

do you know what effect the reset switch has on it ???

good job i'm not a gamer ... eh !!!!

Steffano2002 · 16-12-2005 11:07pm

gumboots wrote:

will try that - i suppose it's just switching off the poe box

Indeed

gumboots wrote:

do you know what effect the reset switch has on it ???

No and I never tried to find out either!

gumboots wrote:

good job i'm not a gamer ... eh !!!!

"Lucky you" I guess... I'd be happy with my IBB if I wasn't I guess...

Sparky · 17-12-2005 12:28am

i get 10ms to my gateway and 41ms to jolt.co.uk

and 18ms to boards.ie

metro btw

Steffano2002 · 17-12-2005 12:34am

Sparky-s wrote:

i get 10ms to my gateway and 41ms to jolt.co.uk

and 18ms to boards.ie

metro btw

10ms to Three Rock? Ouch... Are you far from it Sparky-s? Or do you think it's high because of all the problems you are currently encountering with your Metro connection?

Drapper · 17-12-2005 1:30am

Steffano2002 wrote:

10ms to Three Rock? Ouch... Are you far from it Sparky-s? Or do you think it's high because of all the problems you are currently encountering with your Metro connection?

steph your an aweful moan !!

Steffano2002 · 17-12-2005 12:17pm

Drapper wrote:

steph your an aweful moan !!

Hell yeah I am! Trying to become a PGM so I am! Life's all about ping! God that sounds sad...

Sparky · 17-12-2005 12:25pm

Steffano2002 wrote:

10ms to Three Rock? Ouch... Are you far from it Sparky-s? Or do you think it's high because of all the problems you are currently encountering with your Metro connection?

im only in terenure, i nearly had a deinstall yesterday but they said they got it working and thismorning i now have 87% packetloss

Steffano2002 · 17-12-2005 9:37pm

Sparky-s wrote:

im only in terenure, i nearly had a deinstall yesterday but they said they got it working and thismorning i now have 87% packetloss

My God... That's pretty bad... Are they sending out an engineer to re-align the antenna? I'm told these were the only real Metro problems...
If I get Metro installed on Monday, I want it working from the very start! I'm not getting tied down in another contract with another "IBB-like" company... No way :mad:

Sparky · 17-12-2005 11:23pm

Steffano2002 wrote:

My God... That's pretty bad... Are they sending out an engineer to re-align the antenna? I'm told these were the only real Metro problems...
If I get Metro installed on Monday, I want it working from the very start! I'm not getting tied down in another contract with another "IBB-like" company... No way :mad:

he he, it got realighned and a new CPU box put up there aswell, seems to be ok now, could of been early morning slowdowns.

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