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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭rsynnott


    Big Nelly wrote:
    Still can you describe a racist? or is just a word someone said in the school yard and you throw it about? how can a white man be called a racist if he calls another white man white? how can a black man be called a racist if he calls another black man black? am I racist because I call my mom Irish?

    I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

    I think you're confused about the meaning of the word 'racist'. Racism does not necessarily entail saying 'you are black'; in fact, it never does. Here's a passable definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    LOL @ synott keep em coming,you crack me up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    rsynnott wrote:
    I think you're confused about the meaning of the word 'racist'. Racism does not necessarily entail saying 'you are black'; in fact, it never does. Here's a passable definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

    Honest to God man you haven't a f**king clue what you are talking about.

    lol at Dcully and Jonski:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    t what point are you going to read the bit about me banning you for personal abuse, not for racism?
    Dcully wrote:
    WWM for the record id rather stay banned from any forum you moderate.
    Your responses via pm are just pathetic,infact you should read the pms im getting from atleast 9 other members about you,it really is funny.
    .

    and you didnt read any of those either. so im not too worried.
    Dcully wrote:
    I meant to say,as for reporting you WWm,i cant be arsed at this stage.
    Im enjoying laughing at your responses at this stage.

    for waht, banning you for personal abuse youve just admitted to.

    you keep complaining, but you dont seen to say what exactly the problem is.

    al i hear is the racist card, and i dont think ive said anything about it.

    you can have the racism debate all you want for all i care. ive already said i dont think you were being racist.
    you seem to have a chip on your shoulder due to the large amount of people calling you racist. try and direct your remarks towards those people, and dont involve me in it.
    at the moment, you are mixing up two seperate issues.

    please, report me if you feel you have been done an injustice. perhaps you shold stick it on the mods forum, but if you dont do anything, then nothing will be done.
    all you have done so far is accuse me of several things which are not true, throw a tantrum, threaten to create several new accounts to 'get around the ban' and behave like a small scolded child.
    and it really takes away from you trying to climb to the high moral ground.
    Big Nelly wrote:
    . As mentioned in post I would rather see this sent in a PM.
    why, so you could post it up again?
    Big Nelly wrote:
    Why not explain your comments and trolling on the soccer forum as I have posted about and I wasn't even involved in the thread so don't bring me back into it just because I brought it to everyone attention

    the only thing you brought to anyones attention is that you dont like me becuase i didnt repond to your reports that you didnt like people calling you a bad driver because they didnt know you.
    hardly grounds for me to do anything.

    i mean, i dont like the fact that you lkeep going on about it, and cant seem to understand any of the pretty plain points that ive made, but you know what, i'm sure i will live without your validation of me as a moderator.

    and im sure you will live without me telling you that we have differing opinions.

    although, you appear to be argueing some racist definition here, and disagreeing with other peoples opinions, but when i do it, im a bad mod and a bad person, and no doubt karma will kill me at some stage in the near future...

    is it hypocrasy or irony. im not sure, and to be honest, again, im not going to get into a debate about it, suffice to say this is an internet bullitan board with over 40000 registered users, and there are always going to be numerous disagreements. some people are going to be more furvant over things they feel strongly about.
    if you cant accept that, then thats a failing on you as a person, rather than on the system that runs these boards and keeps the vast vast majority of people happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,393 ✭✭✭jonski


    Big Nelly wrote:

    lol at Dcully and Jonski:D


    Why are you laughing at me ? ....is it because I is white ?

    well actually I am more of a pale blue to be honest .


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    WWM you still sidestep the one reason im bothering with this.
    Why are the guys calling me racist not banned?
    Ever hear of the word consistency?

    Are you going to reply to this question ive asked several times or not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    the only thing you brought to anyones attention is that you dont like me

    Never said I didnt like you, know you are a Spurs fan if I remember correctly and I have had good discussions with you before on soccer forum. I don't take a dislike to anyone on boards because for all I know I could be sitting beside you on the night link home after Xmas party and you could be the person to wake me up before I end up back in town:D

    I have not disagreed with your points/discussion but I have argued with your atitude at times toward people. There is a clear distinction. I have never asked you to be removed as a mod as some people have suggested.

    I never take anything personal any longer here. Live and let live is my motto

    The arguement about racism is because I am sick of that word thrown around on here and everywhere, I rent flats and if I don't rent to a non-national I will at times get calls from these "people" for the next 2 weeks at any time of the day/night calling me a racist because I didnt rent the flat. Now am I a racist when I don't rent a room in a house to someone that wants to run a company from it? I don't think so. Also before someone start picking thru this post I do rent to non-national's:D and the majority are great people.

    The person on here who seems to think he knows what a racist is cleary hasn't a clue as has been shown and I think as Dcully has said if these people keep on throwing around this work they should be banned.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    as Dcully has said if these people keep on throwing around this work they should be banned.

    That is exactly why im even posting on this issue.
    As i said already i accept i called one or two guys a waster or whatever but i dont take it back even if it means a perm ban.
    Any man who calls me a racist deserves to be personally abused imo,treat contempt with contempt.
    IMO nothing is as bad as labelling someone a racist simply based on their blinkered view and for them to not be banned is an outrage and is the ONLY reason im posting here.
    Is there double standards here or what?
    I await yet another sidestepping response WWm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Dcully wrote:
    WWM you still sidestep the one reason im bothering with this.
    Why are the guys calling me racist not banned?
    Ever hear of the word consistency?

    Are you going to reply to this question ive asked several times or not?

    and ive told you several times.....

    use the report button, or talk to the mod of the forum!

    how many times do i tell you that i only respond on forums that i dont moderate, with reported posts!

    the only reason you got banned, waas because a couple of people reported you, i looked at one post, saw there was directed personal abuse, and banned you for it.

    if you want to the chance to go in and answer the case of people calling you a racist, then i am happy to split the thread and stick it into humanities for a good old fashion racisim battle if you want?

    i have not skirted any questions you have asked me,and i have made my position clear from the start.

    do you want me to split thee thread so you can continue the discussion on racisim, becuase that seems to be the issue that is annoying you most here, and tbh, i am not involved in it aside from the fact that you cant follow up anything inthe motors forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭GoneShootin


    everyone wrote:
    points being confused - topic lost - attacks on poster for "scores" vs constructive debate and conclusion of key issues - blacks/whites/colours/donkey porn - a mongoose in a straw hat

    119048bgifw8mm.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Big Nelly wrote:
    I have not disagreed with your points/discussion but I have argued with your atitude at times toward people. There is a clear distinction. I have never asked you to be removed as a mod as some people have suggested.
    .

    well, like i said, i try to be fair as i see it, and i really can do no more than that.
    i dont take sides, and im not above banning anyone, including a mod in this case.

    i try to remain neutral, and i have never banned anyone for disagreeing with me, or even for abusing me it has to be said.

    like i said, we dont all see eye to eye, and in this case, Dcully is still harping on about racism, but hasnt given me any solutions that he wants.

    he accuses me of skirting issues, but im quite sure ive answered them. he is not happy with the answers. thats ok too, but it doesnt mean that im wrong. it simply means that he doesnt like my answers.
    perhaps if he provides a solution, then we can move forward. until then, there isnt much i can say except to start quoting myself again.


    as for the discussion on racism, like i said, im not in on it, i was never in on it, and i dont intend to be dragged into it.
    i have my own definition of racism, and youre all wrong :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


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    POTY!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Dear God he still sidesteps it.
    Admit it man you dont have an answer or the capacity to express one even.
    You keep spining "use the report button"
    I said already i cant be arsed as it will do no good round here.
    As for splitting the thread,no thanks ive nothing to say to folk with narrow minds who label me racist,theres no arguing with people who have tunnel vision.
    Are you going to answer why they are not banned?
    Illl ask you another way,
    Do you think a guy calling me racist is personal abuse?
    Ill point out that you banned me for personal abuse.
    I cant make it any plainer for you.

    No doubt you will sidestep yet again.
    Furtheromre you banned me because you didnt like my pm ,its funny how i wasnt banned until you recieved my pm.
    You also sidestepped when i challenged you to produce evidence of "several reports" as you put it.
    I reckon you dreamt that bit up to somewhat justify A.you banning me and B. your reopening of said thread TWICE to have a go,sneer,blacken my name or whatever.

    I have long since advocated mods should have to produce these so-called reports before carrying out any ban.
    I suggest to you WWm you took exception to my thread and took it upon yourself to ban.
    Be realistic, ive seen worse go without banning.
    he accuses me of skirting issues, but im quite sure ive answered them
    You STILL havent answered is accusations of racism not personal abuse?
    Dcully is still harping on about racism

    Ofcourse i am,that is what i have been accused of yet the accusers are not banned,i ask YET again WHY NOT?
    Answer the question one way or another and i will be happy to leave this thread,it is you that is dragging this on and on but continuing to sidestep even though you claim you havent,its clear to all you are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    I would consider being called a "racist", unjustly, personal abuse and very offensive.


    Nice pic GoneShootin:D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    I would consider being called a "racist", unjustly, personal abuse and very offensive.

    Thankyou,that is all im trying to express and find answers as to why im banned and the others not but the guy just keeps side-stepping the question which normally means hes backed himself into a corner with no way out.
    All ive asked for many pages back was an answer to my question,im still waiting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Dcully wrote:
    Dear God he still sidesteps it.
    Admit it man you dont have an answer or the capacity to express one even.
    You keep spining "use the report button"
    I said already i cant be arsed as it will do no good round here.
    As for splitting the thread,no thanks ive nothing to say to folk with narrow minds who label me racist,theres no arguing with people who have tunnel vision.
    Are you going to answer why they are not banned?
    Illl ask you another way,
    Do you think a guy calling me racist is personal abuse?
    Ill point out that you banned me for personal abuse.
    I cant make it any plainer for you.

    No doubt you will sidestep yet again.
    Furtheromre you banned me because you didnt like my pm ,its funny how i wasnt banned until you recieved my pm.
    You also sidestepped when i challenged you to produce evidence of "several reports" as you put it.
    I reckon you dreamt that bit up to somewhat justify A.you banning me and B. your reopening of said thread TWICE to have a go,sneer,blacken my name or whatever.

    I have long since advocated mods should have to produce these so-called reports before carrying out any ban.
    I suggest to you WWm you took exception to my thread and took it upon yourself to ban.
    Be realistic, ive seen worse go without banning.


    You STILL havent answered is accusations of racism not personal abuse?



    Ofcourse i am,that is what i have been accused of yet the accusers are not banned,i ask YET again WHY NOT?
    Answer the question one way or another and i will be happy to leave this thread,it is you that is dragging this on and on but continuing to sidestep even though you claim you havent,its clear to all you are.


    yes. you got me. its a big conspiracy against you. head over to the consipracy forum and have a look. theres a HOOOOOGE thread about you.

    people are laughing.

    or, youre just being a big drama queen.

    im not going to show you reports, and im not going to show you PM's.

    and no, im not going to ban anyone for calling you racist, becuase i didnt read them. if i had a report of one in my inbox, id have a look, but since you cant be arsed, then neither can i.

    you can make all the suggestions you want about me, im not too bothered.

    as for the rest of your ranting, knock yourself out. say what you want, making accusations that i am somehow getting at you for some reason arent going to make me unban you for your original offence. and as such, thats all i have to answer for.

    at this stage, your over-reactions and you tantrums are more amusing than debate, and as such, i dont think we have anything more to say.

    you wont give me any soltuions except to yell and scream, i have nothing more to give you. im sorry, it seems you may have to finish this day unsatisfied by your visits to boards.
    we take your call seriously......


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    LOL surprise surprise YET again he sidesteps.
    The mind boggles.
    t seems you may have to finish this day unsatisfied by your visits to boards.

    Wrong,you have given me one of the best laughs in years on boards and continue to do so.
    I look forward to many more as my pm box gets ever more full with laughs about you,quite a reputation you have there young man :D

    Oh like i said i dont want to be unbanned,i clearly stated that already.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,991 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Big Nelly wrote:
    Have I asked for him to stop being a moderator? if so where? try and read first before replying.

    I did read your posts. When you find yourself having to back down on your arguments, you revert to that tired argument. The decisions regarding banning users for abuse, but not for disagreeing with someone are fair. But when faced with this, you simply reply with "but but, soccer forum, but but".


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,980 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Dcully, WWM is a cat mod, speak to someone who actually mods the Motor forum about banning the people who called you racist. Mike65 is it? WWM only steps in where immediate action is required and there is no mod around. He will recieve all the reports the other mods get, but that doesn't mean he reads through each thread on every forum he moderates.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Dcully, WWM is a cat mod, speak to someone who actually mods the Motor forum about banning the people who called you racist. Mike65 is it? WWM only steps in where immediate action is required and there is no mod around. He will recieve all the reports the other mods get, but that doesn't mean he reads through each thread on every forum he moderates.

    He banned me,Mike 65 didnt,nuff said.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    Stark wrote:
    I did read your posts. When you find yourself having to back down on your arguments, you revert to that tired argument. The decisions regarding banning users for abuse, but not for disagreeing with someone are fair. But when faced with this, you simply reply with "but but, soccer forum, but but".

    Where did I back down? I wanted an explantion about how one week he wanted to be a mod and the next he didnt and he explained. Did you read it? wat tired argument? explain yourself. If you could read which at this stage I am starting to doubt I was talking about WWM atitude towards people and I used the soccer forum as a reference to this. You have a problem with that or are you just posting a few lines of crap and then heading off?

    Also my initial question, where the f**k did I ask him to get banned as a mod? if you cant read the bloody thread then dont comment on it. Also what are you going on about the soccer? I asked him to explain his atitude on that forum and he hasn't answered. That ok with me. Its his right.

    In regards to the "but, but" term I see that as racism and I want you to be banned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    ahh.
    And so goes the forthnightly anti-WWM thread in feedback.
    keeps him sharp, I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Dcully wrote:
    He banned me,Mike 65 didnt,nuff said.


    this is really about the banning isnt it.
    nothing else.

    you asked me if i was going to ban the people that called you racist.

    i said no.

    im not sure what answer im side stepping now, but im sure you will tell me ive sidestepped something else.

    but keep going with the little jabs there, if they make you feel better, then they make me feel better.

    you dont have any arguments, you have no solutions, youre just having a temper tantrum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Thread Tools/Subscribe To Thread
    *Gets out the popcorn*


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    Big Nelly wrote:
    I asked him to explain his atitude on that forum and he hasn't answered. .

    i havent answered what now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Six long months I spent in Dubberlin, six long months doing nothing at all,
    Six long months I spent in Dubberlin, learning the steps to Lannigan's Ball

    I stepped out, and I stepped in again...

    /me hoolies


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Oooo can I hoolie?:v:


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    ruthie locked a thread this morning, and then posted something in it at me that i didnt like.
    i didnt get the chance to say something smart and witty and cutting back at her!

    i demand that everyone be banned becuase im not racist!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    ruthie locked a thread this morning, and then posted something in it at me that i didnt like.!!

    you love it you slag!

    thread locked
    B



    :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Your locking the thread?!Noooo entertainment is over as we know it


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