Union forum still vandalised.

Syth

I came across the forum of the student's union via a google search. It's still vandalised. Link: http://ucdsu.net/forum/index.php?sid=2d855f8a5ffd14d93056b0dcd6bac5eb.

C'mon lads just delete it! If needed you can log into your database directly and remove all that by hand.

Dave!

lazy coonts

Red Alert

tee hee it's all rather amusing actually... i doubt it would have taken them more than a few seconds just to clean it up. i installed phpbb in about 30 minutes flat one day.

panda100

yeah why arent they doing anything about it?theres still just the same message from dan hayden.I used to like surfing the ucd boards,they made me laugh. Hopefully santa will give the su a shiny new boards page for xmas

PhantomBeaker

What struck me as a idiotic was that they seemed to think it was a personal insult. It was just someone trying to exploit as many phpBB boards as they could find. Instead it was a BIG HACK TARGETTED at the SU. Ffs, get over yourselves! Just upgrade the board and get on with it.

But that's just me. Anyway, aren't they getting a new one from a CS student?

P.B.

pretty*monster

PhantomBeaker wrote:

What struck me as a idiotic was that they seemed to think it was a personal insult. It was just someone trying to exploit as many phpBB boards as they could find. Instead it was a BIG HACK TARGETTED at the SU. Ffs, get over yourselves!

My, you seem to know a lot about this

Not wishing to have another row about the union, but perhaps they have higher priorities than fixing the boards?

Pythia

pretty*monster wrote:

Not wishing to have another row about the union, but perhaps they have higher priorities than fixing the boards?

Like their left wing campaigns?

PhantomBeaker

pretty*monster wrote:

My, you seem to know a lot about this

Only because I've had to maintain boards just like they have. I've seen attacks like this, and if it was targetted by someone within the college, it seems a damned odd way to go about it. My main bone of contention with 'em was that they seemed to say "Well we can't trace it" - I mean, the logs were there... it wouldn't be hard to find out at least where they came from.

Basically it was the forum that was attacked because the software was a bit old, not the whole website, and to be honest it looks like an opportunist attack. So, it's not that hard to get up and running again.

Not wishing to have another row about the union, but perhaps they have higher priorities than fixing the boards?

Well, certainly the executive officers would, but I mean, there's the IT and Comms position isn't there? Ok, it's held by someone who wants to abolish the position, but it's still there. Surely that would be the point of the position?

As for having higher priorities than fixing the boards... The SU always needs a point of contact with the students. Not just the standard "I'm in my office from 9:00 to 5:00" or press releases to the Trib or the Observer, but a way for people to feel that they're involved, and for them to feel a part of the community. A cheap and effective way can be through the use of a forum. It promotes a community feel, and while it's certainly a pithy technical matter, it can mean a lot to people.

To me that'd be a good priority for a Student's Union to have: a closer connection to students.

By the way, I'm not trying to stir anything, it's more me sorta thinking 'out loud' (well to this forum).

But that's just me... and I'm a bit of nerd.

Take care,
P.B.

orangerooster

Man that site has been like that for a long time, seeing as its part of the official SU site it makes sense to change it asap. Strange they havent.

Red Alert

i manage one of these systems too (http://www.ucdengsoc.com/) and i can say that it would take a max of 20 mins to get working again, and another hour or so for full and total customization. looks like the SU IT guys are amazingly competent.

drdre

hahaha the target is george bush,whats wrong with that.leave it online:D

hullaballoo

Pythia wrote:

Like their left wing campaigns?

Eee gad! You're about 18 months too late with these anti-socialist sentiments!

panda100

who is the it and communications officer anyways?surely he should have it fixed by now!
Made me laugh today when i was on the su website today and their ALREADY discussing sabbat positions for next year!

GusherING

panda100 wrote:

who is the it and communications officer anyways?surely he should have it fixed by now!
Made me laugh today when i was on the su website today and their ALREADY discussing sabbat positions for next year!

Pierce Farrell is the IT & Comms officer. He's currently banned from the newswire on ucdsu.net due to his eagerness to edit posts by correcting the spelling! As a moderator on the newswire myself, I'll bring it up at our next meeting which is due in the first week back in January. It really should be fixed. I'd do it myself except I lack the knowledge to fix it and so on.;)

pretty*monster

PhantomBeaker wrote:

As for having higher priorities than fixing the boards... The SU always needs a point of contact with the students. Not just the standard "I'm in my office from 9:00 to 5:00" or press releases to the Trib or the Observer, but a way for people to feel that they're involved, and for them to feel a part of the community. A cheap and effective way can be through the use of a forum. It promotes a community feel, and while it's certainly a pithy technical matter, it can mean a lot to people.
P.B.

Well the newswire is still up if people want to natter on about the su, the boards were never used a lot anyway.
They also managed just fine back in days of yore before the internet. I'm sure it'll get fixed eventually, I just don't think it's that important.

Syth

pretty*monster wrote:

I just don't think it's that important.

The forum itself wasn't very important. But the current vandalised forum makes the union look like a bunch of raving loonies (just do a google search for "ucdsu forum"). However this can be fixed very quickly. It is literally a 10 minute job.

well its prob better than our ****ty boards which are full of people calling our su president afaggot!so much fun!

zap

UCDSU will be launching a new web site - thats why its not been cleaned up in the new semester, the link to the forum has been removed from the website and replaced with a page explaing where the forum is gone, Pierse is not banned from the newswire he is just not allowed to moderate it.

Vorsprung

zap wrote:

UCDSU will be launching a new web site - thats why its not been cleaned up in the new semester, the link to the forum has been removed from the website and replaced with a page explaing where the forum is gone, Pierse is not banned from the newswire he is just not allowed to moderate it.

Nope, sure you can still get into the forum by clicking on the target on the bottom left of the main page. They miht want to change that too!;)

GusherING

zap wrote:

Pierse is not banned from the newswire he is just not allowed to moderate it.

Sorry, thats what I meant!!;)

AngelofFire

Like their left wing campaigns?

Maybe issues like fees, grants, access and the BTEA mean very little to you, but to the majority of students they are issues of critical importance.

Pythia

That's putting words in my mouth. You know what I mean. Anti McDowell, anti war in Iraq, anti deportations are not equivalent to BTEA.

zap

its fixed

Syth

zap wrote:

its fixed

Excellent.

Blush_01

Pythia wrote:

That's putting words in my mouth. You know what I mean. Anti McDowell, anti war in Iraq, anti deportations are not equivalent to BTEA.

Hear hear. I, for one, would be much more likely to e-mail a student advisor or a Union officer if I wanted information on any of the issues you've mentioned AngelofFire. The only time I went near the site the information I wanted hadn't been updated in a good 6 months and any time I've used the forums it's all been overly-lefty bolshoi. Like Kate said, people managed fine pre-internet, and thousands cope fine without using it to get information at the present moment in time.

It's fixed now anyway.

AngelofFire

You know what I mean. Anti McDowell, anti war in Iraq, anti deportations are not equivalent to BTEA.

A poll in the tribune indicated that a majority of students opposed the war in iraq, it is therefore an issue of student interest, anti deportation is the subject of motions passed in council (The unions democratic representative governing body) over the years. Also many students in the past have been threatened with deportation.

Pythia

So anything that's ever happened to a student should become part of SU policy?

zap

the reason the site hasn't been updated becuase a new site with all the required info (the way it should be) on union services etc. will be launched in the first few weeks of the new semester.

pretty*monster

Pythia wrote:

So anything that's ever happened to a student should become part of SU policy?

The union is there to represent the students of ucd on any issue that they the students see fit.

Now I here a lot of 'most students this that and the other...' and it's usally against union policy, but all union councillors are directly elected and contrary to the opinion of many it is not 'stuffed with lefties' (though that critisism never fails to ammuse me because the student union movement grew out of the trade union movement, it's a fairly left wing idea, how right wing can one really be and still favour the idea of a student union? ... slightly irrelevent but it's a reminder of just how utterly meaningless the lables of left and right have become). So why do these 'most students' not stand for election, and vote for those who share their opinions?

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zinc

Yeah but the left and right wing distinction is obvious in UCD, no matter what you say its as visable as anything in the way lefties and righties stick together like school children and rarely dissent with each other except on the most far out theoritical bull**** opinions.

But as has been stated, if these people actually cared about the Union and what it does theyd have ran for it, classic case of Ill moan at anything rather than try fix it.

Blush_01

Besides, some people weren't allowed to vote this year... (Mmhm, beef.)