IOL BT + raising speed/cap

Fighting Irish

Anyone any idea of the date they are raising the speed up to 3mb

Thanks

Tazzle

date of speed increase is dependant on eircom & your exchange. cap is up to BT.

ghostdancer

they're starting proper upgrades mid january apparently,so anytime within 2 months after i'd say....

Blaster99

It took them a day the last time so perhaps it will take a day this time too.

sturgo

I reckon 10 years.

Fighting Irish

sturgo wrote:

I reckon 10 years.

:rolleyes: gtfo my thread

griffdaddy

i have fairly good information that would suggest that in mid january we'll see a doubling in down speeds, ie 2mb to 4mb and a keeping in line with what ever eircom offer vice vie upload speeds. no idea about caps though but i'll find out. this source was spot on in every respect with the last upgrade we got but then again don't shoot the messenger!!!

sturgo

Fighting Irish wrote:

:rolleyes: gtfo my thread

no

OfflerCrocGod

griffdaddy wrote:

i have fairly good information that would suggest that in mid january we'll see a doubling in down speeds, ie 2mb to 4mb and a keeping in line with what ever eircom offer vice vie upload speeds. no idea about caps though but i'll find out. this source was spot on in every respect with the last upgrade we got but then again don't shoot the messenger!!!

The upgrades are well known about here on the BB forum but it seem as if the 2Mb service is going to 3Mb and 384 kbps 4Mb will be for business accounts.

zuma

griffdaddy wrote:

i have fairly good information that would suggest that in mid january we'll see a doubling in down speeds, ie 2mb to 4mb and a keeping in line with what ever eircom offer vice vie upload speeds. no idea about caps though but i'll find out. this source was spot on in every respect with the last upgrade we got but then again don't shoot the messenger!!!

Bitstream products are controlled by eircom and sold onto UTV, BT, Netsource...etc.

This "good information" must concern BT's LLU exchanges only at best.

Fighting Irish

So how do people know its going to 3mb and not 4mb

zuma

From memory

1m/128k=>2m/256k
2m/128k=>3m/384k
3m/256k=>4m/384k
4m/256k=>5m/512k

So how do people know its going to 3mb and not 4mb

eicom have unofficially announced those speeds to their providers who have then spilled the beans to persistnt callers, of which this place is completely full with.

Gone West

zuma wrote:

eicom have unofficially announced those speeds to their providers who have then spilled the beans to persistnt callers, of which this place is completely full with.

damn right

DirksDiggler

Welcome news no doubt, but does anyone have any idea as to what kind of prices we should expect for the 4 & 5mb packages?

Seeing as most of us BT customers will probably be upgraded from 2mb to the 3mb package (costing €40 odd per month) surely the price increase to the higher spec packages can't be that obscene, can it?

Kristok

bt probably wont change the price they just lowered it a few months back iirc. No point in speculating about these things we will know in a few weeks not untill then.

griffdaddy

zuma wrote:

Bitstream products are controlled by eircom and sold onto UTV, BT, Netsource...etc.

This "good information" must concern BT's LLU exchanges only at best.

similarly eircom were wholeselling the package with a lower cap than their competitiors managed to provide for the same price. This guy is adamant that speeds will be doubled and not just go from 2MB to 3Mb. He posts here sometimes, i think his name on here is Stuey

zuma

A D/U CAP can be easily played around with....the max speed for a certain package can not!
The CAPS are there to stop the network going under with masses of traffic....and by and large most people never even hit the 4GB mark, not to mean 12GB or 24GB in a month.

Bitstream providers will always be forced to offer a, marginaly, higher CAP and slightly lower price as its their only selling point over the ever friendly eircom.

The speeds I posted above are far more illogical(eircom remember) than doubling from 2Mb-4Mb.

The general concensuss:

1m/128k=>2m/256k
2m/128k=>3m/384k
3m/256k=>4m/384k
4m/256k=>5m/512k

Also, I honestly dont think eircom have the capability to provide 8m/0.5m over ADSL but evern if they were going to try it they would be forced to impliment ADSL2+ and we would have heard about the router swapping by now.

OfflerCrocGod

zuma wrote:

Also, I honestly dont think eircom have the capability to provide 8m/0.5m over ADSL but evern if they were going to try it they would be forced to impliment ADSL2+ and we would have heard about the router swapping by now.

I think they are planning those upgrades around 2009/2010. Can't wait for 8Mb! Meanwhile the rest of the EU is on 50-100Mb

Sparky

well it was on the 9 news that we are years behind everywhere for broadband and cost for service.
Buisness's are suffering

lasno

I have a friend that works in Eircom BB area and he tells me that they
are doubling speed in mid January therefore I presume that BT will be
doing likewise

Gonzo

Its only the 1mb customers who are getting speed doubled to 2mb, the 2mb customers get a 50% increase to 3mb.

Fighting Irish

lasno wrote:

I have a friend that works in Eircom BB area and he tells me that they
are doubling speed in mid January therefore I presume that BT will be
doing likewise

nice

zuma

A picture of things to come:





Taken from:
http://www.eircomwholesale.ie/dynamic/pdf/Bitstream_Price_ListV2.7.pdf

It appears they will upgrade all their products, as I and others have correctly suggested...but will create a new 1m/128 product for mabye the €25 a month market.

eircom/imagine/UTV users and not BT users!
Their timed product will also stay at the current 1m/128(hence the retention of a "proper broadband" 1m/128k product) and probable be sold for €12-€15 a month

kmurph

Why do you think it won't apply to BT users? They've always followed Eircom's upgrades in the past.

daveyjoe

kmurph wrote:

Why do you think it won't apply to BT users? They've always followed Eircom's upgrades in the past.

I guess beacause afaik BT don't have a timed product at the moment.

zuma

daveyjoe wrote:

I guess beacause afaik BT don't have a timed product at the moment.

And hopefully(fingers crossed) never will

daveyjoe

Are you sure that bitstream connect isn't a product to replace the current timed product?

My reading of the table is that they are going to scrap the timed product and replace it with an always on service for the same price and with the same up/down rate.

Edit: The PDF answers my question. Zuma is correct, ignore this post.

BopNiblets

*waves hand* This isn't the post you're looking for... Move along...

zuma

BopNiblets wrote:

I'm not getting a speed upgrade with BT then?
FORK! :mad:

Booo-urns to that.

Of course you are.....I was talking about their Timed Product...which BT does not offend its customers with(I think, unless your the first).

Please read what I have said above again and calm down:eek:

Jumpy

BopNiblets wrote:

I'm not getting a speed upgrade with BT then?
FORK! :mad:

Booo-urns to that.

Read it again.

slave1

I'm on the BTBB+, couldn't care less about speed, anyone any inclination as to new download limits in the offing??