IBB go slow returns.

Nevyn

Yes the bankholidays are over business reopens and the IBB connection we have to thier network starts timing out and going slow.
Web pages timing out, antivirus updates and other downloads stopping as it says that the connection is lost, pings over 150 to games servers.
Is it a minor glitch as they sort it out or is this the start of another 6 weeks of
dial up or less then dail up from a broadbad supplier ?
Can't wait to see what excuses they use this time.

vinks

it wasnt ever really fixed for me since it was majorly borked from midseptember onwards. and its still pretty borked on my end here...

15:43:47 user@epyon:~ $ traceroute boards.ie
traceroute to boards.ie (82.195.136.250), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  jwn (192.168.1.1)  3.024 ms  1.452 ms  1.752 ms
 2  dn03-fe-1-3-1-150-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.34.113)  1966.617 ms  2443.588 ms  2019.948 ms
 3  dn42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.52.134)  1612.682 ms  1586.604 ms  2715.361 ms
 4  dn42-fe-0-1-2-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie (83.141.117.45)  2330.057 ms  1669.973 ms *
 5  panama-inex.hosting365.ie (193.242.111.87)  1925.637 ms  1906.713 ms  2692.295 ms
 6  corerouter1.hosting365.ie (82.195.128.7)  2367.419 ms  2786.711 ms  2137.180 ms
 7  boards.ie (82.195.136.250)  1686.055 ms *  1490.802 ms
15:44:36 user@epyon:~ $

15:44:36 user@epyon:~ $ ping -c10 boards.ie
PING boards.ie (82.195.136.250): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=10.800 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=10.787 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=9.750 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=2784.381 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=1785.748 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=790.826 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=6 ttl=57 time=9.853 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=7 ttl=57 time=14.978 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=8 ttl=57 time=9.423 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=9 ttl=57 time=13.617 ms

--- boards.ie ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 9.423/544.016/2784.381/927.818 ms

you dont even want to see what my connections are like to the outside world.

whats even more interesting, doing a traceroute back into ibb's network from a machine on a relatively decent connection (10mbit)

user@kusanagi$ traceroute 83.141.x.x
traceroute to 83.141.x.x (83.141.x.x), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  irdc1-ge1-1.ams-1.nl.eu.iracks.com (83.98.148.1)  0.558 ms  0.517 ms  0.381 ms
 2  Gi0-0-209.ams-koo-access-2.interoute.net (212.23.59.249)  1.333 ms  1.749 ms  1.682 ms
 3  PO6-0.ams-koo-core-2.interoute.net (212.23.41.145)  8.341 ms  8.296 ms  8.475 ms
 4  PO1-0.lon-wal-core-1.interoute.net (84.233.152.157)  8.165 ms  8.025 ms  8.102 ms
 5  PO2-0.lon-002-inter-1.interoute.net (217.118.119.58)  8.341 ms  8.133 ms  8.108 ms
 6  ge9-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net (195.66.226.76)  12.240 ms  11.997 ms  11.652 ms
 7  pos4-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net (208.185.156.13)  12.586 ms  11.853 ms  12.444 ms
 8  213-161-79-98.lhr.above.net (213.161.79.98)  25.015 ms  25.296 ms  30.265 ms
 9  DN42-ge-0-2-0-13-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie (83.141.117.46)  26.659 ms  2864.727 ms  25.977 ms
10  DN03-as0-0-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.52.133)  27.183 ms  26.043 ms  26.898 ms
11  83.141.x.x (83.141.x.x)  2587.634 ms  30.007 ms  30.889 ms

im not one to moan and bitch, but ibb have managed to turn me into a moaning git

jesus_thats_gre

The last traceroute is strange considering the first one...

vinks

i guess i should have shown the traceroute to and from my box to the box that i have outside of ireland... the thing i find odd is that the outgoing and incoming path of the the traceroutes when inside of ibb's network i go through different machines, such as...


to my home machine from outside of ireland

user@kusanagi$ traceroute 83.141.x.x
traceroute to 83.141.x.x (83.141.x.x), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  irdc1-ge1-1.ams-1.nl.eu.iracks.com (83.98.148.1)  0.558 ms  0.517 ms  0.381 ms
 2  Gi0-0-209.ams-koo-access-2.interoute.net (212.23.59.249)  1.333 ms  1.749 ms  1.682 ms
 3  PO6-0.ams-koo-core-2.interoute.net (212.23.41.145)  8.341 ms  8.296 ms  8.475 ms
 4  PO1-0.lon-wal-core-1.interoute.net (84.233.152.157)  8.165 ms  8.025 ms  8.102 ms
 5  PO2-0.lon-002-inter-1.interoute.net (217.118.119.58)  8.341 ms  8.133 ms  8.108 ms
 6  ge9-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net (195.66.226.76)  12.240 ms  11.997 ms  11.652 ms
 7  pos4-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net (208.185.156.13)  12.586 ms  11.853 ms  12.444 ms
 8  213-161-79-98.lhr.above.net (213.161.79.98)  25.015 ms  25.296 ms  30.265 ms
 9  DN42-ge-0-2-0-13-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie (83.141.117.46)  26.659 ms  2864.727 ms  25.977 ms
10  DN03-as0-0-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.52.133)  27.183 ms  26.043 ms  26.898 ms
11  83.141.x.x (83.141.x.x)  2587.634 ms  30.007 ms  30.889 ms

from my home machine to kusanagi (a box outside of ireland)

16:02:08 user@epyon:~ $ traceroute kusanagi
traceroute to kusanagi (83.98.x.x), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  jwn (192.168.1.1)  2.314 ms  1.448 ms  1.492 ms
 2  dn03-fe-1-3-1-150-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.34.113)  9.715 ms  3.945 ms  4.788 ms
 3  dn42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.52.134)  4.615 ms  4.813 ms  4.641 ms
 4  dn42-fe-0-1-2-13-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie (83.141.117.45)  6.793 ms  8.053 ms  12.055 ms
 5  213-161-79-157.lhr.above.net (213.161.79.157)  20.491 ms  2854.230 ms  22.585 ms
 6  pos4-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net (208.185.156.14)  2621.886 ms  39.041 ms  39.457 ms
 7  so-4-1-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.above.net (208.185.156.2)  25.887 ms  24.350 ms  22.799 ms
 8  so-7-0-0.mpr1.ams5.nl.above.net (64.125.27.178)  51.029 ms  42.140 ms *
 9  so-0-0-0.mpr3.ams1.nl.above.net (64.125.27.181)  72.947 ms *  655.746 ms
10  141.ge3-0.mpr1.ams1.nl.above.net (62.93.194.26)  32.797 ms  29.795 ms  29.830 ms
11  ge1-3-0-751-m7i-1.as25232.net (213.247.40.147)  30.236 ms  67.497 ms  2388.794 ms
12  kusanagi (83.98.x.x)  30.395 ms  32.470 ms  2801.325 ms

i get random values of latency on the ibis gateway, at first i just thought it was the typical slowstart for tcp/ip but if i leave a session running pinging a machine my latency can vary from 30ms up to 3000ms or more and this happens randomly on a pinging session. its causing havoc to interactive ssh sessions to the outside world and its beginning to irritate me even more than it did over the previous months.

another interesting thing that you can point out to ibb is that if you download one of their pdf's on their website (pick a largish one off their site) and you'll see that you get the full speed of whatever your connection is, i was under the impression that if there was a contention problem you would still be ratelimited at the mast before it hits their webservers. again i thought that if a mast is over subscribed then you shuoldnt be getting the full speed out of that mast to anything that isnt on the same mast. but if i download a file from esat or heanets mirrors the speed is just non-existant.

vinks

at the risk of annoying some people, im going to reply to my own post, i've probably moaned about this before on another thread. and just to show how boned ibb's network appears to be...

user@giles ~ $ ping boards.ie | tee ping.log
PING boards.ie (82.195.136.250): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=12 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=76 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=15 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=43 ms
133 bytes from 83.22.214.105: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
36 bytes from 84.136.214.2: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=12 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=6 ttl=57 time=98 ms
36 bytes from 84.136.214.2: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=7 ttl=57 time=21 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=8 ttl=57 time=15 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=9 ttl=57 time=63 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=10 ttl=57 time=12 ms
133 bytes from 24.219.183.218: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=11 ttl=57 time=116 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=12 ttl=57 time=29 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=13 ttl=57 time=16 ms
36 bytes from 200.92.214.104: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=14 ttl=57 time=10 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=15 ttl=57 time=8 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=16 ttl=57 time=12 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=17 ttl=57 time=8 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=18 ttl=57 time=117 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=19 ttl=57 time=71 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=20 ttl=57 time=12 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=21 ttl=57 time=8 ms
36 bytes from 63.232.101.106: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=22 ttl=57 time=21 ms
64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=23 ttl=57 time=8 ms

do other people see the same crap on their connections? its kinda worrying when you get responses back from machines that you arent interested in.

Sponge Bob

vinks wrote:

and just to show how boned ibb's network appears to be...

64 bytes from 82.195.136.250: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=43 ms
133 bytes from 83.22.214.105: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
36 bytes from 84.136.214.2: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
133 bytes from 24.219.183.218: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
36 bytes from 200.92.214.104: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3
36 bytes from 63.232.101.106: icmp_type=3 (Dest Unreachable) icmp_code=3

its kinda worrying when you get responses back from machines that you arent interested in.

Jeeeeeeeeeez thats bad, looks like a router cannot handle a big enough state table.