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  • 05-01-2006 5:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭


    Sorry for starting a new threats but I will be very brief on this one.
    I am on BB Plus and supposedly should have DL of 2 MB. The max DL speed I manage to get is 110 kB/s. I am not so much concerned about the UL but thought that the DL should be slightly better!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ebooborg


    u cant tell ur BITS from your BYTES!


    theres 8 BITS in a 1 BYTE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭zuma


    That download looks like a 1Mb connection....who is your ISP???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭zuma


    ebooborg wrote:
    u cant tell ur BITS from your BYTES!

    110 kB/s = 2mBit !!! :p

    theres 8 BITS in a 1 BYTE

    The problem really is...CAN YOU???

    110KB/s ~ 1Mbit !!! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭SickBoy


    ebooborg wrote:
    u cant tell ur BITS from your BYTES!

    110 kB/s = 2mBit !!! :p

    theres 8 BITS in a 1 BYTE
    That doesn't add up either ;)
    Maybe the OP meant he should be getting double the 110k downloads which would be more realistic for a 2mb product...


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    zuma wrote:
    That download looks like a 1Mb connection....who is your ISP???


    (Esat) BT.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    SickBoy wrote:
    That doesn't add up either ;)
    Maybe the OP meant he should be getting double the 110k downloads which would be more realistic for a 2mb product...

    I was hoping for at least 150-180 kB/s as I know the copper isn't fine.
    I did not pay attention to it untill now but for the past few days, I have been testing downloads from various sources, different times of the day and under the best conditions (DL at 02 AM) I get around 105-110. I should probably get on to BT although I do not know what they can do (if the problem is the poor connection)!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    Get the line speed, SNR, and line attenuation from the modem or router and post them here, please.


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    Blaster99 wrote:
    Get the line speed, SNR, and line attenuation from the modem or router and post them here, please.


    Blaster, I am not ashamed to say that I do not know how that is done.
    I have a Zyxel Prestige 623-T1 router so if someone can tell me how this is done, I will post the results stat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Tech Pete


    Thats a 1Mbit line my man.
    Call them and get it upgraded to 2!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    I presume you know how to access the router's web interface? If so, try to find a status page or similar. Look for SNR, attentuation, and line speed. I'm not familiar with that router so I don't know the specifics.

    You're either getting 1Mbps because Eircom or BT configured your service wrong (SNR & attenuation are good), or you're getting 1Mbps because that's the highest speed the ADSL modem can synch at (SNR & attenuation are bad). If the line speed is exactly 1024kbps, it would also be an indication that the line is configured wrong.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I do not know how that is done.
    Type 192.168.1.254. in the address bar of your internet browser
    Enter your username and password.
    By default the username is admin, and the password is 1234.
    Click the Ok button to log in to your router.
    Ignore any reference to change the password
    Under the maintenance section, click on system status
    This is where I'm guessing because I don't have this router
    There should be a Show Statictics button at the bottom of the system status section. Click this and you should have your connection setup
    eg mine on BB+ is

    WAN Port Statistics:
    Link Status: Up
    Upstream Speed: 128 kbps
    Downstream Speed: 2048 kbps

    Most folk on this thread reckon yours will read
    WAN Port Statistics:
    Link Status: Up
    Upstream Speed: 128 kbps
    Downstream Speed: 1024 kbps

    Let us know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭exiztone


    Sounds like they sold you the 1mbit package. They did that to me too (I wanted the 2mbit one). They forced us to upgrade instead of handling the mistake themselves. If you're getting your broadband cheaper for the first few months, when you get upgraded to 2mbit make sure that they stick with that payment plan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    All of ye were right lads.
    Please see the attched pic.
    I am so sorry I make the switchover from UTV to BT (the BT plus package). I went "live" on 15.05.2005. As yet, have not received a bill. I contacted Bill Murphy who "dealt" with them. Eventualy, in November, I received a printout of my "bill" which stated I owed them for the period May-November 570 Eu. Was on to the CS and tried to pay by installments or even to get them to lower the bill (due to their incompetence). Was told that I had set up a direct debit and that was not possible. In December, they took the money from my account just to put it back again the following day.
    Now this thing with the speed. I signed up for a 2MB service but failed to notice (got suspicious 2day) that they were only providing the entry level product.
    I will get on to them first thing in the morning.
    Could anyone suggest or recommend what I do regarding my rights.
    The help here was appreciated. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    That only a 1mb connection alright.
    Ring them and tell them to upgrade you to 2mb ASAP.
    If they're charging you for 2mb from the start tell them to deduct €10 for each month your connected.
    There is no line attenuation ar SNR data so I can't tell if it's poor line quality or BT has the wrong speed setup on your line.
    This is a regular occurrance when switching from 1mb UTV to 2mb BT. Eircom seem to make the change over but leave the speed the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    I hope this helps

    Downstreatm noise margin:
    relative capacity occupation: 14%
    noise margin downstream: 38.5 db
    output power upstream: 0.5 dbm
    attenuation downstream: 41.0 db
    carrier load: number of bits per symbol(tone)
    tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 22 23 33 44 44 44 32 02 22 22 00
    tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 23 33 22 20 00 03 34
    tone 64- 95: 04 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44
    tone 96-127: 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 22
    tone 128-159: 20 00 00 02 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22
    tone 160-191: 22 22 22 20 22 22 20 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    tone 192-223: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    tone 224-255: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Upstream noise margin:
    relative capacity occupation: 18%
    noise margin upstream: 26.0 db
    output power downstream: 17.0 dbm
    attenuation upstream: 25.0 db
    carrier load: number of bits per symbol(tone)
    tone 0- 31: 00 00 00 00 00 22 23 33 44 44 44 32 02 22 22 00
    tone 32- 63: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 23 33 22 20 00 03 34
    tone 64- 95: 04 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 44
    tone 96-127: 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 33 22
    tone 128-159: 20 00 00 02 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22
    tone 160-191: 22 22 22 20 22 22 20 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    tone 192-223: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    tone 224-255: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    Also, I carried out a line speed test from a website:http://www.speed.xpri.com/adsl/ . I hope the results (Attached) or off some help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    The important values:
    noise margin downstream: 38.5 db
    attenuation downstream: 41.0 db

    noise margin upstream: 26.0 db
    attenuation upstream: 25.0 db

    I'm on a a 2Mbit service and am getting the following (down/up):

    Attenuation 38 db 11.5 db
    Noise Margin 17 db 25 db

    My upstream attenuation is significantly better than yours and your downstream noise margin is much better than mine. I remember looking at the kinds of figures required over a year ago but they are well gone from my memory now. Your noise margins will definitely be good enough but those attenuations might be borderline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    As leeroybrown said your downstream line attenuation looks a little high but your SNR is excellent. Your line "should" handle 2mb but you may have problems at the end of the month when the 2mb goes to 3mb.
    Am I right in thinking you're a little over 3km from the exchange?
    Check the internal phone wiring in your house and try plugging the modem into the main phone socket (if it's not already) rather than an extension socket.
    Also unplug all other devices (fax, digi cordless phone, skybox etc.) from your phoneline to see if the figures improve.


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    kaizersoze wrote:
    As leeroybrown said your downstream line attenuation looks a little high but your SNR is excellent. Your line "should" handle 2mb but you may have problems at the end of the month when the 2mb goes to 3mb.
    Am I right in thinking you're a little over 3km from the exchange?
    Check the internal phone wiring in your house and try plugging the modem into the main phone socket (if it's not already) rather than an extension socket.
    Also unplug all other devices (fax, digi cordless phone, skybox etc.) from your phoneline to see if the figures improve.

    Almost imposible to have "wired" router the way you suggest. If I knew a wireless router one would do the job better, I would go for one.

    To be honest, I do not know how far away I am from the Blanch exchange but I am almost sure it is beyond the 3 km.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    I think those numbers are ok, and the fact that it "magically" syncs at 1024/128 is a little suspicious. I would demand BT to verify the configuration in the exchange with eircom.

    He's only asking you to make those changes temporarily to get a different reading. But I would start beating up on BT's support first.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    By the way, a semi-related question. I'm quite far from the exchange, at least by Eircom's definition of far, and my router sometimes syncs below 2048kbps. I have an oldish Netgear ADSL router. Are there any modems or routers that are known to be better than others when it comes to dealing with poor-ish lines?


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭regedit


    Just gopt upgraded a few days to BT plus (check my original post) and these are the statistics from my router.
    Would anyone comment on them.
    Thanks

    DSL Upsream Noise margin: 11.01.2006 (before the upgrade)
    relative capacity occupation: 40%
    noise margin upstream: 13.0 db
    output power downstream: 17.5 dbm
    attenuation upstream: 25.5 db

    DSL Downstream Noise Margin: 11.01.2006
    relative capacity occupation: 97%
    noise margin downstream: 38.5 db
    output power upstream: 1.5 dbm
    attenuation downstream: 39.0 db
    Downstream Noise margin, 18.01.2005
    relative capacity occupation: 26%
    noise margin downstream: 32.0 db
    output power upstream: 0.0 dbm
    attenuation downstream: 40.5 db
    Upstream noise margin , 18.01.2006
    relative capacity occupation: 18%
    noise margin upstream: 26.0 db
    output power downstream: 18.0 dbm
    attenuation upstream: 25.0 db


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭aido_2006


    Heres a good site for speed tests...

    http://www.auditmypc.com/internet-speed-test.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭hellboy99


    can anyone tell me if this is good ?

    actualBitrateFarInt= 128 kbit/s
    actualBitrateFarFast= 0 kbit/s
    actualBitrateNearInt= 2048 kbit/s
    actualBitrateNearFast= 0 kbit/s
    relCapacityOccupationUpstr= 21 %
    relCapacityOccupationDnstr= 33 %
    noiseMarginUpstr= 24.0 dB
    noiseMarginDnstr= 11.5 dB
    outputPowerDnstr= 7.0 dBm
    outputPowerUpstr= 0.5 dBm
    attenuationUpstr= 31.0 dB
    attenuationDnstr= 50.0 dB


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