New Year's Revolution

Mossy Monk

Cena will keep the title. a load of bollocks tbh

thank **** i was wrong. good to see a new champ

antifyre

That was a smart damn ending......

kyp_durron

Nice one, not before time though.

Off to bed, night all.

jonnybadd

Good ending, shame about the elimination chamber.

antifyre

Chamber was almost under-booked purposely though...... did Vince pre-empt a lacklustre Main Event on purpose??

Damn Smart.

Mossy Monk

who knows, it saved the end of the PPV

nn all. work in the morning :eek:

antifyre

me too......zzz....

nite all

elvis2002

yeah the ending was out of the blue and memorable but Kurt Angle out of the chamber first. Whose idea was that. John Cena was a bloody joke in the match. I was booing him just the like crowd every chance I got. I thought for a second he was going to duck the spear and fu edge to win the 2nd match. If that had happened it could have ended my viewing of the wwe for a long time. Edge is crap I know and doesn't deserve any belt IMHO. The belt is kinda loosing its recognition. Angle is far the superior and should be champion. I hope the idea is not for Cena to win the royal rumble now.

Stalfos

JOHN CENA's rein of bad wrestling is over.
Edge desersved the title last year imo. Hopely that the last we'll see of him for a while. It have to be done. Could have a face wrestler who no one likes as champ. Hopely this week on RAW, Edge is burn that god awful mockery of a title and bring back the old title belt.






P.S someone probably should have put spoiler a few posts back.

Mr.Nice Guy

YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bank on that Cena!

Great ending!

I was scared after that crap Chamber match but the ending makes up for it!

:cool:

Lita Forever

Wow, total shocking. I never thought I'd say it but mad props to WWE. I'll do full analysis tommorow. But why am I suddenly an Edge fan? Lol!

de5p0i1er

I love a good shock ending and that was one of the best I've seen in years. EDGE EDGE EDGE. I was getting bored of Cena.

Devon

What a stunning shocking and excellent ending to a below average PPV. Think about it though - the money in the bank thing was only good until WM22 so they had to let him use it up before then.

Dragan

And so we finally have the answer to why the eliminator chamber match was always going to be weak.

I like it. Edge's gimmich has pissed me off as late. And he wrestled lazy for a while. Hopefully this will be the making of him.

merlinsmerryman

What a shocker I'm pretty excited to see where this goes now hopefully they won't make Edge drop the title to set up the much touted Cena V HHH at WM22.

Dragan

The only reason Cena Vs HHH was being so heavily touted was because no one could see Cena losing the belt in the chamber. And he didn't.

I don't think ANYONE foresaw the way he did lose it however.

D-FENS

Well personally I’m over the moon with this!
Edge has been one of my favorite characters since his very first promo's/debut.
He was one of those guys , like Rocky Maivia, Orton or Lesnar, that I earmarked for the belt as soon as I seen them, and to finally see him achieve that nearly 8 years later is fantastic.
Sure, he's had a lot of critics professionally and personally, and that's fine, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
But for the time being (And with the way WWE's mind works, he could lose it again tonight on Raw) let us Edge-Heads have our moment!

Congratulations Champ!

moongoose

great to see cena finally drop the belt & hopefully part one of a WM main event set up. i know who i'm hoping wins the rumble now. it would be great to see edge hold the belt till mania to face (fingers crossed) matt hardy.

yak_kadafi

damn what a shock!!!!!!!!!!!!!
at last cena lost the title...yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i still cant get over howo much of a shock it was..no rumours or anything beforehand either.............
wwe got off to a great start this year

Dragan

I wouldn't call it a great start, one good twist does not a great film make!

kyp_durron

Yeah it was a pretty poor ppv overall, cept for the money in the bank twist which is the best thing vince has done in ages.

Thank god we didn't have to pay for it.

oneofakind32

And now for the next piece of shock TV Crap!!

merlinsmerryman

LOL should be funny to see what happens there.

jonnybadd

Wow I really can't wait to see this(!)

Fozzy

My first thoughts on the PPV were that Edge must've stopped doin steroids or somethin, he looks like fat Triple H. ****in pointless havin Lawler win, especially with how good Helms looked in that match. Women's title match was one of the more entertaining I can remember. Big Show/HHH was ok, nothin too great

I was goin crazy when Angle came into the chamber! Daivari jumpin onto the chains and all, it was brilliant! Then he goes and gets eliminated..I was seriously thinkin about goin to bed right there. I decided to cheer on Masters instead, he's kinda grown on me recently..although there wasn't a chance anyone but Cena would win that. And with such a ****ty ending I went from "what a crap match.." to "I ****in love Edge!" as soon as I figured out it was Vince's music playin!

I don't like Edge at all, I hated him a while back cos I've been a big Matt Hardy fan since the V1 days. But John Cena can bring people together like that! He can unite people using the hatred they feel as him being champ. That was the first time I've had goosebumps for a new champ since Benoit, and Eddie before that

Although, I'm pretty sure Cena's goin to have his rematch at RR, and more than likely win it..

J.R.HARTLEY

it was a great end and great to finaly see edge with the belt. my only problem now is that apart from the flair thing edge had no real grudge or feud, which means it'll probably be cena v edge for a while, edge deserves better matches like angle or HHH

Dragan

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

edge deserves better matches like angle or HHH

You'd never know, the could bring some long forgotten, talent-lacking relic out of the woodwork for a run against him. I hear thats happening a lot these days.

OsamaBinLaden

the chamber match set up two or three feuds. masters and carlito, HBK and angle and the obvious one of edge and cena. i didn't think it was all too bad. it had some good moments, but overall it was a fairly slow match.

the twist at the end was pure genius.

J.R.HARTLEY

Dragan wrote:

You'd never know, the could bring some long forgotten, talent-lacking relic out of the woodwork for a run against him. I hear thats happening a lot these days.

Ha!, nice one, i can hear the faint strains of real american billowing through the smoke machine and old saggy tits himself gearing up for his 72nd comeback

Brow

I read the results this morning and beamed for ages afterwards. Got a call from my friend who said he was watching the chamber and burst over to his house to see the finish. Minute he saw me he knew something was up. Great finish.

b0bsquish

a nice ending I have to admit!!
HHH taking the title a RR.... Flair for the rumble?.... wrestlemania main event anyone? g'awn vince ya know you want!!

Seriously thou I hope edge gets a decent run with the belt.

the sunbabe wan

sweet mother of god:eek: well that was a shocker. only looked up the review for raw on the sky + to tape it later on, and when it said that edge beat cena for the title at new years revolution i said thats wrong, edge wasnt any where near the elimination chamber last night.... checked wwe.com... i'm in shock..... where the fawk did that com from good result though..... thank the lord cena is not champ anymore.... like cena, but i couldnt handle him being champ until wrestlemania. suppose the rest of new years resolution is not worth watching???


oh yeah

hi:o

D-FENS

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

and old saggy tits himself gearing up for his 72nd comeback

Ha, Call him that all you want (And you'd be right of course), but as a friend of mine once said while we were watching Hogan v. Flair a couple of years ago, "If these are men who've worked out all their lives, what the f**k are we gonna look like at that age!"

Devon

The reason he's like that is he hasn't toned himself down. He needs to tighten up now at his age. There's no reason for him to look the way he does with all the people he has around him.

gimmick

Once I saw Michaels getting eliminated I almost turned off the video. I was wondering how the fúck they could salvage this. When Cena got the 1-2-3, i was ready to thump the tv.

Once Vince came out, I knew what would happen. I had butterflies during the Cena/Edge 'match'. I was sure Cena somehow would win it.

Ive never liked Edge, always hoped he would never hold the title, but am so very glad he won at NYR.

Anyone else feel a Cena heel turn coming. The booing of him has now become relentless, he has to turn, and once he does, he should have some good promos again as an angry vicious heel.

the sunbabe wan

gimmick wrote:

Anyone else feel a Cena heel turn coming. The booing of him has now become relentless, he has to turn, and once he does, he should have some good promos again as an angry vicious heel.

i prefered when cena was a heel any way. sooo a heel turn will be refreshing.... he might actually start wrestling better.


also, nice way of changing from a heel to a fan favourite. way to go edge, but how long will that last???

Lita Forever

moongoose wrote:

i know who i'm hoping wins the rumble now. it would be great to see edge hold the belt till mania to face (fingers crossed) matt hardy.

Sorry lol, but this amused me. Matt Hardy has gotten what little mileage he can out of the whole Edge/ Lita/ Matt saga. It's over, it's done. In my opinion he'll be extremely lucky to be on the card come Mania.

Mr.Nice Guy

gimmick wrote:

Once I saw Michaels getting eliminated I almost turned off the video. I was wondering how the fúck they could salvage this. When Cena got the 1-2-3, i was ready to thump the tv.

Once Vince came out, I knew what would happen. I had butterflies during the Cena/Edge 'match'. I was sure Cena somehow would win it.

Ive never liked Edge, always hoped he would never hold the title, but am so very glad he won at NYR.

Anyone else feel a Cena heel turn coming. The booing of him has now become relentless, he has to turn, and once he does, he should have some good promos again as an angry vicious heel.

The problem the WWE has is that almost instantly he'll get a massive reaction from the fans who now boo him, similar to what happened to The Rock when he turned heel in 2003. The Rock wasn't there long-term though so it wasn't a problem.

As I understand it, they want him to stay a babyface because kids buy his merchandise.

I actually liked how he told the fans who were booing him to kiss his ass as it's better than him coming out and saying that we have a right to cheer or boo. I think they can salvage him as a face but they need to stop acting like he's The Rock and let him rap like he used to. They should maybe consider giving him his old entrance music as well.

Fozzy

If you haven't seen Raw, then

Edge isn't a face. And Cena looks like he's stayin face for a while yet. He barely got any boo's at all

TOPDAWG

Just watched it der. Have to say i enjoyed the chamber match. very annoyed a cena winning but suppose thats the way they had to go for the end result. he contributed NOTHING to the match. NOTHING. and if i have to look at hat stupid bobble-head movement (hes like a nodding dog in a car) he does when he's gettin a beat down i like Gimmick will smash my tv screen!!

But im still a bit shocked and confused at the ending. id always expected edge to do something like this but thought he may have waited until after the WM22 main event. But as someone else mentioned annoyed because i dont wanna see either as champ. Never liked edge and i tried to stomach cena for a long time but like everyone else have grown tired of his four move offense!

But anyways,and i dunno ye may laugh considering the way his career has gone since, but my immediate thoughts were

EDGE VS HARDY AT WM 22!

Theres been very little build up to someone who may win it this years rumlble compared to years gone by with your Austins, hhh's,brocks,benoits and batista's being prepped for victory in d rumlble months beforehand. So maybe they could be going for a "shock" winner of whats supposedly a random match that anyone can win.

Just my immediate thoughts after watching it (and with several many beers woooohooo.) That and the one thing thats stuck in my head since the edge/hardy feud is hardy saying something along the lines of "there will be 5 differebt stages to this story" and so far we've only had 3 (to my recollection.)

p.s. anyone spot how when mae young came out the fans who had the ric flair WOOOOOOO sign cleverly turned the W upside to make a M?!?

D-FENS

Lita Forever wrote:

Sorry lol, but this amused me. Matt Hardy has gotten what little mileage he can out of the whole Edge/ Lita/ Matt saga. It's over, it's done. In my opinion he'll be extremely lucky to be on the card come Mania.

True, but by the looks of it the only way Lita will be on the card is if she takes her clothes off. Less Queen of Extreme and more Princess of Porn these days.
Granted, Hardy disappointed a lot of fans by coming back and milking the storyline instead of cutting his ties with WWE all together (Or maybe he was just as disillusioned as the fans who think he'll win the rumble and go on to mania), but at least he's been allowed to keep his dignity on screen, and stands a chance of being remembered as a wrestler in years to come.
The only reason Lita is involved in a major storyline is because she played away. If that had never happened, granted Hardy would probably be in the same position he is today struggling in mid card, but Lita would be right there with him, or still valeting for Kane, or commentating on the Bra and Panties gauntlet. She certainly wouldn’t be involved in the main angle on Raw, so don't talk about people getting mileage out of something, she's milked it to death at this stage, and in a lot more degrading fashion than Hardy.
And I know she’s on the injured list, and when she comes back she’s take the women’s division by storm (hard job), but if the only way she can get on screen in the meantime is by doing stuff like Monday nigh, then she’s falling low, a lot lower than Hardy.

Lita Forever

True, but by the looks of it the only way Lita will be on the card is if she takes her clothes off.

Erm no. She'll be managing Edge, like she has been at every PPV for the last 6 months or she'll be wrestling Trish for the title, as their stare down at NYR and Trish's Unlimited interview would suggest. Hardy meanwhile will be lucky to make the Heat match.

(Or maybe he was just as disillusioned as the fans who think he'll win the rumble and go on to mania)

Lol, good point.

but at least he's been allowed to keep his dignity on screen, and stands a chance of being remembered as a wrestler in years to come.

That's true. Although Hardy essentially returned to WWE and lost the fued with Edge. He's now jobbing on Smackdown and surely Velocity can't be too far away. Not a great position for a man who made such a well publicised return and proclaimed he "would not die!" No Matt you won't, but your career sure is. I wonder how in demand he'll be this time around if he is released?

My personal opinion on Matt's dignity is that his dignity died the day he shook Vince's hand in the middle of the ring.

The only reason Lita is involved in a major storyline is because she played away

True all three people gained prominence from the whole mess. The difference is, Edge was already well liked backstage by the powers that be and would have risen to this stage anyways. Lita was involved in a big angle with Kane, ( in which Hardy was jobbed out in, lets not forget) once that was over, she got a big push and mian evented Raw, winning the Women's Title.

Hardy? He was previously seen jobbing to Kane, before that he was on Heat, before that it was Velocity. If ANYONE gained the most from the whole thing, it was Hardy.

so don't talk about people getting mileage out of something, she's milked it to death at this stage

This is nonsense in my opinion. She has not milked anything. Her and Edge have been doing what is asked of them by WWE. Lita was extremely uncomfrotable in her private life being made public like that, but it was that or her job.

Matt Hardy meanwhile, instead of keeping his dignity ( there's that word again) Acted completely unprofessional. He went on his website and whined and whined and whined. He said that WWE lacked morals (which is true) he pretty much called them every name under the sun actually,but yet when Vince waved his check book Matt came running back like a dog to it's owner. Not only that but he lost the fued and came off looking like a mark. Hardy's loyalists got a whole lot quieter after that.

You didn't hear Amy or Adam on the net tearing people down and broadcasting personal details, there lies the difference.

if the only way she can get on screen in the meantime is by doing stuff like Monday nigh, then she’s falling low, a lot lower than Hardy.

She's doing what's asked of her, as I said. Any of the other women would do the same. You think that Victoria is happy doing this T&A bull ****? No she's not. She does what is aked. Trish stripped down to her underwear, crawled around the ring barking like a dog. I'm sure that wasn't her cup of tea. The fact is that it's not the only way they can get on TV, it's how WWE sees fit to use them. So what a boob was shown. It wasn't the first time, and it won't be the last, as long as there's such an uproar over it..

Dragan

the sunbabe wan wrote:

i prefered when cena was a heel any way. sooo a heel turn will be refreshing.... he might actually start wrestling better.


also, nice way of changing from a heel to a fan favourite. way to go edge, but how long will that last???

Nah, what they want to do with Cena is give him 5 to 6 matches against some god people and have them great, bone crunching horrifying matches.

Then give him an injury break and send him to work on his in ring moves with Dean Malenko.

After than, give him a Triple H style comeback ( the one after he tore is quad ). You know the crowd would have forgotten all the **** and just remember those last few matches, and he could be heel or face as was needed at the time.

D-FENS

Lita Forever wrote:

Erm no. She'll be managing Edge, like she has been at every PPV for the last 6 months or she'll be wrestling Trish for the title, as their stare down at NYR and Trish's Unlimited interview would suggest. Hardy meanwhile will be lucky to make the Heat match.



Lol, good point.



That's true. Although Hardy essentially returned to WWE and lost the fued with Edge. He's now jobbing on Smackdown and surely Velocity can't be too far away. Not a great position for a man who made such a well publicised return and proclaimed he "would not die!" No Matt you won't, but your career sure is. I wonder how in demand he'll be this time around if he is released?

My personal opinion on Matt's dignity is that his dignity died the day he shook Vince's hand in the middle of the ring.



True all three people gained prominence from the whole mess. The difference is, Edge was already well liked backstage by the powers that be and would have risen to this stage anyways. Lita was involved in a big angle with Kane, ( in which Hardy was jobbed out in, lets not forget) once that was over, she got a big push and mian evented Raw, winning the Women's Title.

Hardy? He was previously seen jobbing to Kane, before that he was on Heat, before that it was Velocity. If ANYONE gained the most from the whole thing, it was Hardy.



This is nonsense in my opinion. She has not milked anything. Her and Edge have been doing what is asked of them by WWE. Lita was extremely uncomfrotable in her private life being made public like that, but it was that or her job.

Matt Hardy meanwhile, instead of keeping his dignity ( there's that word again) Acted completely unprofessional. He went on his website and whined and whined and whined. He said that WWE lacked morals (which is true) he pretty much called them every name under the sun actually,but yet when Vince waved his check book Matt came running back like a dog to it's owner. Not only that but he lost the fued and came off looking like a mark. Hardy's loyalists got a whole lot quieter after that.

You didn't hear Amy or Adam on the net tearing people down and broadcasting personal details, there lies the difference.



She's doing what's asked of her, as I said. Any of the other women would do the same. You think that Victoria is happy doing this T&A bull ****? No she's not. She does what is aked. Trish stripped down to her underwear, crawled around the ring barking like a dog. I'm sure that wasn't her cup of tea. The fact is that it's not the only way they can get on TV, it's how WWE sees fit to use them. So what a boob was shown. It wasn't the first time, and it won't be the last, as long as there's such an uproar over it..

Oh right, so little Amy’s been the victim with no choice in any of this and hasn't enjoyed any of the main event coverage she's been getting.
And she's allowed do whatever it takes to be a wwe star, but Hardy's not?
And as for the fact that, sleeping with Edge and injuries aside, Lita would still be in the women's title picture, in a division that consists of playmates and senior citizens. That’s got more merit than Hardy's current position, has it?

Dragan

D-FENS wrote:

Oh right, so little Amy’s been the victim with no choice in any of this and hasn't enjoyed any of the main event coverage she's been getting.
And she's allowed do whatever it takes to be a wwe star, but Hardy's not?
And as for the fact that, sleeping with Edge and injuries aside, Lita would still be in the women's title picture, in a division that consists of playmates and senior citizens. That’s got more merit than Hardy's current position, has it?

To be honest I'm gonna agree with D-fens.

The who thing about Hardy going on the net and whinning is a moot point to say that Amy didn't.

What's she gonna do, bitch and moan about how she ****ed on of Matts best friends??? And pointing out that the two of them chose the business over their Pride is a pretty moot issue.

At the end of the day, i was dissapointed when Matt went back. If it was me i would simply have stayed gone, but i can guarantee that Edge would be on the injured list for a while!

Lita Forever

Oh right, so little Amy’s been the victim with no choice in any of this and hasn't enjoyed any of the main event coverage she's been getting.

No, I'm not calling her a victim here. It can't have been a nice situation for any of the three. The fact is, nobody knows what went on behind closed doors. It's not our business anyways. Okay so Matt Hardy aired his side for the whole world to see, that still doesn't mean we can judge any of them. So I'm not going to comment on what went on during that period, I'm talking about the aftermath to that.

Sure, if are to believe what happened to Matt, then that's not nice and I feel for him. I just think going onto the internet and broadcasting everything wasn't the right way to deal with things in my opinion. The fact that he returned to WWE and worked so cohesively with Edge, makes me wonder what his priorities really were.

Matt could have went on to RoH or TNA, and used his talent to further his career, while moving on from the WWE and the situation. He didn't choose to do that, he took a pay off to go back and job to the man that had an affair with his girlfriend. My sympathy level for Matt dropped after that.

I realise Amy had her part in all of this, but I still don't believe anyone should have an arena full of people who don't have the slightest clue as to what went on behind closed doors, judge them. What, are all those people saints? That makes me laugh.

WWE talent does what is asked of them. Only a select few have the stroke to object to things. Other than that they either do it or go find work elsewhere.
Just today I read that Amy was uncomfortable with the sex scene. She didn't have a choice though, what WWE wants, it gets.

Lita would still be in the women's title picture, in a division that consists of playmates and senior citizens. That’s got more merit than Hardy's current position, has it?

Well when you consider that Hardy's current position is being JBL's bitch every week, then yes I believe it does.

D-FENS

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D-FENS

Lita Forever wrote:

So I'm not going to comment on what went on during that period, I'm talking about the aftermath to that.

Good, to be honest I’m fed up talking about their love triangle as well, and as for the aftermath, well Matt's on SM and has no further connection. Edge and Lita however, are still on Raw and very much getting mileage out of it. (My original point in this whole first post).Whether or not they are doing it by choice is not the case, but Matt certainly isn’t

Lita Forever wrote:

The fact that he returned to WWE and worked so cohesively with Edge, makes me wonder what his priorities really were.

Matt could have went on to RoH or TNA, and used his talent to further his career, while moving on from the WWE and the situation. He didn't choose to do that, he took a pay off to go back and job to the man that had an affair with his girlfriend. My sympathy level for Matt dropped after that.

The fact that Matt returned to WWE and worked so cohesively with Edge confirms for me exactly what his priorities are, to do whatever it takes be in the WWE .Yes, he acted harshly at first, who wouldn’t in the circumstances, but ultimately I think he realized where he really wanted to be and do what he had to do to get back there.
And as for him just taking a pay off, well you say none of us really know what went on but you can accuse him of this?
As for jobbing to Edge, well that's neither wrestler's decision is it? I think it's just another example of how much Matt wanted to be back with the company. And again I say, why is Lita excused for going along with whatever the writers decide for her but Matt isn’t?

Lita Forever wrote:

I realize Amy had her part in all of this, but I still don't believe anyone should have an arena full of people who don't have the slightest clue as to what went on behind closed doors, judge them. What, are all those people saints? That makes me laugh.

Well, if you pay for your ticket, you should be allowed shout whatever you want at the performers.And if you don't want your private life exposed then you should do a better job of keeping it secret, you certainly shouldn’t add fuel to the fire by portraying yourself as a tramp on screen. But as you say, Amy had no choice in that....

[/QUOTE=Lita Forever]
Well when you consider that Hardy's current position is being JBL's bitch every week, then yes I believe it does.[/QUOTE]

If you're happy with Lita being a big fish in a very small women's division pond, well fair enough, enjoy.
And regardless of how much success Matt is having on SM, the point is his character 's very much moved on from the whole thing, a lot more than Lita's, whether that's her choice or not.
And if he jobs to everyone on the roster he's still better off away from her.

Lita Forever

Edge and Lita however, are still on Raw and very much getting mileage out of it.

Okay, I'll agree with you to an extent. But my original point was that arguably Edge and Lita would still be featured in a prominent position on Raw had none of this happened, while Matt would still be in the lower mid card. I'm basing my opinion on where all 3 were before this whole mess. Maybe we're both right in our own way..*shrugs*

Whether or not they are doing it by choice is not the case, but Matt certainly isn’t

True, but you could argue that if Matt was to win the World Title and look like a great champion, he too would be gaining mileage from the situation.

And as for him just taking a pay off, well you say none of us really know what went on but you can accuse him of this?

Well Matt hardly came back to work for free now did he?

And again I say, why is Lita excused for going along with whatever the writers decide for her but Matt isn’t?

Well okay you have a point there. Neither man had any control over how their feud was booked. I just think that the fact he lost the feud after making such a big return, makes Matt look weak. But yeah, that's not his fault.

And if you don't want your private life exposed then you should do a better job of keeping it secret

It was actually Matt the broke the news to the internet community and made sure everybody knew the details..but I guess Edge and Lita should have had to pay for Matt's indiscretion.

The fact is that by making such a big deal on the internet, Matt made himself look like a hero and Amy & Adam look like the villians. Nobody knows that that is or is not the way things happened. And thus nobody has the right to judge.

you certainly shouldn’t add fuel to the fire by portraying yourself as a tramp on screen. But as you say, Amy had no choice in that....

It was the WWE decision to potray her as a tramp, and no, I don't belive she had any choice.

Lita would still be in the women's title picture, in a division that consists of playmates and senior citizens.

I had to comment on this from your earlier post. The women's division does not consist soley of playmates and senoir citizens. It doesn't consist of senoir citizens at all actually. Besides Lita, there's also 3 serious female wrestlers on Raw. The Women's Title match was a highlight of NYR. So while the division does have a lot wrong with it, it isn't ALL bad. For all the T&A going on, there's also a storyline going on between two respected wrestlers for the title. The division is nowhere near as bad as it has been in years past, so let's not pretend it's the worst thing ever.

Dragan

Tramp = girl who does boyfriends best friend who is also married.

And Matt was not the only one talking on the net about it. We also had Edge's WIFE backing Matt up.

I think you may be taking your appreciation fro Lita's wrestling a little too far and have brought it over to the realms of "I like them so they must be a good person". Far from it a lot of the time, especially in the wrestling industry.

But your right, nobody here knows Amy, Adam or Matt or what went down but at the end of the day where were to defense posts and the cries of "thats not how it went"?

At the end of the day, all parties involved did something wrong, or ****ed up somehow and have had to pay the price. Plain and simple.