Ethernet cable too short :(

cupthehand

My phone socket is in another room to my computer can I just go out an buy an extra long ethernet cable, the one that came with my modem is only about 1m long. Or is there some other method I could use or would i have to get a wireless router and set it up in the room with the main phone socket?
hmmmm confused....

dub45

cupthehand wrote:

My phone socket is in another room to my computer can I just go out an buy an extra long ethernet cable, the one that came with my modem is only about 1m long. Or is there some other method I could use or would i have to get a wireless router and set it up in the room with the main phone socket?
hmmmm confused....

You can buy a longer cable no problem or you can buy a wireless router and set it up as you say. If you are with Eircom you may have a wireless router already.

cupthehand

got a Zyxel Prestige 660ru ADSL Router from digiweb and a bit of a newbie when it comes to all this. Am looking at serious lengths of cable now on eBay think they'll do the job. Would be speed be affected by the longer length of cable or anything or would it not make a difference.

Heinrich

Speed won't be affected. What sort of length are you looking for? That stuff is fairly cheap.

Madong

cupthehand wrote:

got a Zyxel Prestige 660ru ADSL Router from digiweb and a bit of a newbie when it comes to all this. Am looking at serious lengths of cable now on eBay think they'll do the job. Would be speed be affected by the longer length of cable or anything or would it not make a difference.

Try Komplett, they have laods of cable. But the wireless router is a good suggestion. Set one up for a fiend last week and he was well impressed.

Yakuza

Ethernet is fine for approx 100 metres. Your speed won't be affected by it. A 5m length would probably be enough if you're prepared (allowed!) to drill through the wall.

cupthehand

well like I said the main phone socket is in another room and would need a big length as I would be taking it along the skirting boards in the room so maybe looking at maybe 50m of it loads of it on eBay for around £10 before p+p will look around elsewhere but am gonna buy soon coz its not great waiting years for broadband then having it tucked up in a box on the kitchen table

ZENER

50 meters !!!! Another room . . or another street ??

Would it not be simpler to extend the phone line to the computer room ?? 50 mts ( if that's what's really required !) of 4 core alarm cable would be cheaper and neater/safer to install under carpets and behind skirtings etc.

ZEN

cupthehand

ZENER wrote:

50 meters !!!! Another room . . or another street ??

Would it not be simpler to extend the phone line to the computer room ?? 50 mts ( if that's what's really required !) of 4 core alarm cable would be cheaper and neater/safer to install under carpets and behind skirtings etc.

ZEN

there big rooms! lol full of trixy corners and stuff and I was gonna do a neat job and follow the skirting and around the doors etc. Well maybe not exactly 50m I guess 25m would do
But I do have a phone socket extension near enuff to my computer but I thought the router had to be installed onto the main socket not on any extenstions.

Heinrich

50 meters??? Are you sure you need that much? Considering the average length of a room at 5 meters how many rooms do you have to cross?

cupthehand

Heinrich wrote:

50 meters??? Are you sure you need that much? Considering the average length of a room at 5 meters how many rooms do you have to cross?

well like I said maybe not exactly 50m but I am thinking if i gotta go to the main socket about 20m coz theres a long hallway in between too its an awkward shape house believe me!

Heinrich

cupthehand wrote:

there big rooms! lol full of trixy corners and stuff and I was gonna do a neat job and follow the skirting and around the doors etc. Well maybe not exactly 50m I guess 25m would do
But I do have a phone socket extension near enuff to my computer but I thought the router had to be installed onto the main socket not on any extenstions.

Just make sure to put a filter on every PHONE. You can connect to any phone point.

ZENER

Sometimes the simple questions are the most rewarding !!

As said you can install the "modem" on any phone socket provided you connect the dual filter with the modem.

I think you'll be surfin' in no time !!

ZEN

cupthehand

thanks for all the help guys

PixelTrawler

still long cables make no odds either as regards spees. I run a long cable into a flatmates room. The cables prob 25 or 30 m as its coiled up half way and the speeds identical on both machines...

wireless is neater thats all

TinCool

Joebloggs4817 wrote:

wireless is neater thats all

True, but wireless is no where near as reliable as traditional ethernet cabling, albeit, a much cleaner solution. Don't get me wrong, I have wireless set up in both my parents place and my apartment and it is a god send. The wireless in my parents is now rock solid, and I have only recently (after about 3 months of playing around with the settings) gotten the wireless in my apartment to be 100% reliable (well has been for past 4 days now).

TC

seamus

TinCool wrote:

True, but wireless is no where near as reliable as traditional ethernet cabling, albeit, a much cleaner solution.

Indeed. We have a 50m cable at home (it was bought before wireless had been released) which I use every now and again when I'm transferring a few GB's of data between machines. It's at least four times faster than wireless...

syklops

are we talking about the same kind of cable?

Your not thinking of phone cable are you? Because if you are 50m will affect your ability to get broadband. if you are gonna plug your router in at the phone socket and then run the ethernet line to the PC, then fine, but you cant run a phone cable that distance.

Also remember that ethernet cable is not as pliable as phone cable is, I can see problems tacking it around corners and so on. Also its chunkier than phone cable so will be more obvious than CAT5, and not look as pretty when tacked in place.

sorry if Im preaching to the converted but people(techs included) get confused between the two types.

I think wireless would be a better for you.

ZENER

syklops wrote:

are we talking about the same kind of cable?

Your not thinking of phone cable are you? Because if you are 50m will affect your ability to get broadband. if you are gonna plug your router in at the phone socket and then run the ethernet line to the PC, then fine, but you cant run a phone cable that distance.

Considring the phone line has already travelled probably 1 or 2 KM what diff will another 40 or 50 mts make ?? Besides the guy already has a phone socket beside the computer that he uses for dial-up which seems to work. Surely this thread is finished now ??

ZEN

PixelTrawler

on dial up a long phone lead inside the house definitely used to cripple what little connection speed you had....

perhaps the same problem could impact BB too

TimTim

I've read somewhere before that someone was failing the line test for BB, he was only renting and moved elsewhere but he took the 20m phone extension with him a month later his old line passed!

If you can you should try running the CAT5 first before you start messing with phone sockets and if that fails go wireless. Although from the description of your house it might be hard to get a decent wireless signal through all that...

ZENER

True ! The worst culprit was those wind up coiled leads. The coiling of the very narrow delicate cable acted as a choke filtering the upper frequencies, that plus the very this cable had a high resistance. But I'm assuming here that the guy has a properly run phone extension with half decent cable.

ZEN

Toy

You might look at this thread:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=219447

See if he can help.

[Edit] Just read the end of that thread, seems like there's no point in trying [Edit]

jimmycrackcorm

Before NTL I used a very long phone extension cable to connect DSL from my phone socket to another room (30 metres) wiht no problems. Certainly cheaper than a long ethernet or wireless option.