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Clubs 'must protect foreign assets'

  • 14-01-2006 5:42am
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    Football clubs in England are failing to protect and nurture many of their prime assets - overseas players - properly, despite spending millions of pounds on them, according to research from a top business academic.

    New work done at Manchester Business School shows clubs often concentrate on the physical aspects of a player without examining the cultural and sociological side.

    That, says Professor Susan Cartwright, Professor of Organisational Psychology at the school, can lead to problems for players in integrating into a new country - which in turn may force clubs to offload foreign stars at a financial loss.

    "Knowledge of factors preventing footballers achieving their potential could prove invaluable in a multi-million pound industry where return of investment is directly linked to players' performance," she says.

    "A significant proportion of these newcomers perform poorly, prematurely end their contracts, and move away to another country or return to their home countries."

    Overseas invasion

    Along with colleague Isobel Donaldson, the professor looked at the ability of a players to adjust to a new culture at work and in social situations.

    They looked at professional football clubs across the north-west of England, from the Manchester giants to Macclesfield, but their findings will be of interest to all major UK sides.

    The English leagues have one of the highest proportions of foreign players in Europe, and the influx has been a fixture in English football since the Bosman ruling scrapped overseas "quotas" a decade ago.

    For clubs, it may appear to be good business if they can get an experienced player, perhaps an internationalist, for a smaller sum in transfer fees and wages than if they bought a home based player.

    However, last season Arsenal came in for great criticism for picking an entirely non-English squad for their game against Crystal Palace, with claims the foreign invasion may be stifling homegrown talent.

    And, for every Eric Cantona - who settled at United with great success - there has been a David Bellion, who is on his way home to France and Nice after mediocre spells at Old Trafford, Sunderland and West Ham.

    'Technically good'

    From her work with other careers groups, as well as footballers, Professor Cartwright believes that a certain type of person with aptitude to work abroad can be discovered, and then helped to settle overseas.

    "Previous research I did was with engineers, retailers, and managers who had gone overseas - all from large businesses which regularly send people to other countries.

    "In any business, including football, people move overseas because they are technically very good.

    "But like certain types of flower, they don't necessarily blossom in another climate."

    She has identified a very high rate of failure in people moving to work abroad, with a higher-than-expected turnover of staff.

    "It is in the interest of football clubs, and other businesses, to assess in advance how well players will adjust to a new environment.

    "People, including players, who are 'culturally intelligent' will do well overseas. By that I mean those that are aware of their own culture and how it might differ from others.

    "Players also have to realise that doing things in a different way overseas is not odd or wrong, and they will pick up on things very quickly."

    'Positive' motivation

    The professor believes there are two types of players who move to England; those who have always wanted to turn out for a club here, and those who come because their agents tell them it would be a good financial deal.

    "Not surprisingly, the ones who come because their agents told them to are less settled than the ones who positively want to play here," she says.

    "However, when clubs are looking to buy overseas players they often seem to ignore these criteria.

    "This is strange - because a player who does not settle, or a high turnover of foreign purchases, could be expensive for the club."

    She also said having a wife or girlfriend helped players settle, particularly if the partner also found an occupation in the UK.

    For the clubs, the settling-in process can be hugely eased if they prepare a dossier of information for players, such as when banks open and what type of shops there are.

    At Bolton, which has at least 16 nationalities on the books, there are two player liaison officers to help new purchases adjust to UK life.

    They can advise on anything from food to finding a good garage, to helping with family visits from overseas.

    The club also tries to buy players who are experienced professionals, perhaps with prior overseas cultural experience, and also who are looking for a new challenge - who "positively" want to come to England.

    Boys from Brazil

    Xavier Rivoire is a French journalist based in the UK who has written a book about the influx of French players to England in the wake of Eric Cantona's move in 1992.

    He has noticed that a number of high-priced French signings have failed to settle in England, and says clubs have to do more than "just finding a house for them or paying lots of money in wages".

    "It is like buying anything of quality - you don't spend a lot of money on something and then neglect it," he warns.

    He cites ex-Newcastle United player Laurent Robert, now on his way to Benfica via Portsmouth, as an example of a French player - actually from the island of Reunion - who was continually unsettled at his English clubs.

    In contrast, he said, French club Lyon is well-known for its efforts to make Brazilian imports feel at home.

    "They have a translator, who also attends to details such as making sure the temperature in the players' houses is similar to what they are used to and that they get the sort of food they want," he says.

    "As a result there has only been perhaps one Brazilian player out of about 10 who has not succeeded."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4606070.stm

    This occured to me when I was reading an interview with Hernan Crespo a few months ago. He was describing the culture shock of his move to Chelsea, and the difficulties he kept encountering in everyday life, ie going to the butcher, not being able to have a chat here and there. Naturally, not being comfortable in England would have an effect on him, ie how he's constantly pining for a return to Italy.

    It seemed to me curiously inept on Chelseas part (not just them obviously). Paying 16 million for a player and then ignoring his life outside football as if the two areas were completely disconnected? Strangeness.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Quite often you will find clubs buying two players from the same region in an attempt to help the players settle in. A few examples of the top of my head would be Pahars and Bledilis for Southampton, as well as the three Polish lads we have recently found. Coventry, if I remember correctly, signed two Honduran guys together back when they were in the Premiership. I'm sure there are more examples, and I'm sure some have as much to do with player quality or potential as with helping the lads settle in.

    Thats my two cents anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Poor dears, imagine earning millions of £ and still moan about 'difficulties'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,800 ✭✭✭county


    what a load of bull,how about the young home grown talent that dont get a look in because of all these foreign players,
    and very true words from you dub in glasgo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    county, why is it that,

    young home grown talent doesn't get a look in because of this foriegn talent, YET, they don't have this problem in other countries.

    It's because of the nature of the current FA youth policy, which was set up after the golden generation from United.
    Because United buoght up a ****load of talent from all around the country at age 11 and 12, it was argued that they stifled development. Now there are huge financial restrictions on this.
    However since this policy, other smaller clubs have been developing young talent, and besides a couple of quality youth facilities(West Ham and Southampton come to mind instantly), very few are as good as United/Arsenal/Liverpool.
    So inturn the talent which is there, isn't used to its maximun potential, all in the name of protecting the smaller clubs, which as we have seen, hasn't happened at all.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    PHB wrote:
    c
    However since this policy, other smaller clubs have been developing young talent, and besides a couple of quality youth facilities(West Ham and Southampton come to mind instantly), very few are as good as United/Arsenal/Liverpool.

    Leeds have one of the best youth academys in England. Top class facilities and just look at the amount of players that have come through in the last few years. Smith, Kewell, Robinson, Woodgate, Milner, Lennon, Carson, Walton (being chased by many clubs) and thats just to name a few. Leeds are every bit as good as the top three.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Leeds yes I forgot them, but they actually aren't as good as the top three, or as good as West Ham, but they are close.


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