rooney and ferguson in trouble?

wheres me jumpa

the city v united thread is turning into a slagging match so any needless comments in there please.

my father has told me rooney is meant to have kicked down the door of the refs room and ferguson got involved too. he heard it on the radio this evening. i cant find a source for it and my father sometimes gets it wrong.

just wondering has anyone else heard anything about this?

jank

Might be a wind up but then again stranger things have happened.

IS this about the Ronaldo sending off??

6ix

Don't think so - it happened at half time.

Independent have it -- http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=19&art_id=qw1137257460783S163&set_id=

Hobart

6ix wrote:

Don't think so - it happened at half time.

Independent have it -- http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=19&art_id=qw1137257460783S163&set_id=

What exactly did they think they were going to gain by acting like common thugs? For shame on the pair of them.

cournioni

Well maybe if Bennett hadn't turned a blind eye to what could have been a career threatening tackle on Rooney by Jordan it wouldn't have happened.

Hagar

This would be the same Wayne Rooney that some people were putting forward as the next captain of ManU on another thread?

I thought it was a joke then, now I'm sure. Captains must lead by example. This is a disaster for ManU and the individuals concerned.

6ix

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Well maybe if Bennett hadn't turned a blind eye to what could have been a career threatening tackle on Rooney by Jordan it wouldn't have happened.

Yeah the ref made a few poor decisions, including the red card for ronaldo (should've been yellow imo), but in all fairness whats the point in kicking a door and shouting at the ref?

No excuse except stupidity on both their parts.

Hobart

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Well maybe if Bennett hadn't turned a blind eye to what could have been a career threatening tackle on Rooney by Jordan it wouldn't have happened.

This is the miss-timed tacke on rooney outside the 18yard area? Hardly "career threating". Bad tackle yes, but he slid his studs down the outside of Rooneys ankle. Is this justification for the reported abuse by AF and Rooney? I don't think the most stalwart of Manu fans would think so. :rolleyes:

wheres me jumpa

I was hoping it wasnt true. Thanks for link 6ix.

I mentioned it in the other thread, the referee got a lot wrong today. However I cant blame him for the result or the performance of the team. Although rooney was quiet today, he is slowly but surely turning into the player we cant do without and if we were to lose him for a few games due to this we are really in big trouble.

jank

Christ what a fool the pair of them are especially Rooney. You cant go raving mad at the ref when you want to.

Will the FA make an example of him?

cournioni

Hobart wrote:

This is the miss-timed tacke on rooney outside the 18yard area? Hardly "career threating". Bad tackle yes, but he slid his studs down the outside of Rooneys ankle.

More like top of the knee to the bottom of his ankle Hobart. Anything knee high would be a career threatening tackle. Why do you think Rooney was so pissed off?

mayordenis

cause wayne rooney is beyone petulent thats why.

Lemlin

Let's not forget none of this may be true. I'd prefer to wait on clarification before commenting.

Hobart

PORNAPSTER wrote:

More like top of the knee to the bottom of his ankle Hobart. Anything knee high would be a career threatening tackle. Why do you think Rooney was so pissed off?

He is young, angry, petulant, was playing in a derby game and had just been given a yellow card. Nothing justifies his alleged behaviour. He will get a long ban if these allegations are reported as true.

I did'nt think the tackle was knee high TBH, if it was it was a terrible tackle.

Hobart

Lemlin wrote:

Let's not forget none of this may be true. I'd prefer to wait on clarification before commenting.

You comment on the allegations that have been reported. It does,nt make them any more or any less true.

mayordenis

Hobart wrote:

He is young, angry, petulant, was playing in a derby game and had just been given a yellow card. Nothing justifies his alleged behaviour. He will get a long ban if these allegations are reported as true.

I did'nt think the tackle was knee high TBH, if it was it was a terrible tackle.

well put,
the tackle skimmed the flesh it was calf height, not knee.

cournioni

He wasn't being petulant, he was dead right to have a go at the referee. By all right he could have went over and twatted Jordan for that challenge, instead he looked for protection from the referee (which is what the referee is there for). Which was the right thing to do, especially after Barton tried to stamp on him earlier in the half.

When he didn't get it he flipped, as any normal person would do in that situation.

cournioni

mayordenis wrote:

well put,
the tackle skimmed the flesh it was calf height, not knee.

I have it right here on tape. Are you calling me a liar?

Hobart

PORNAPSTER wrote:

He wasn't being petulant,

He called the ref a fooking twat on the pitch.

he was dead right to have a go at the referee.

No he was not dead right. The ref made/did not make a decision. He was not going to change his mind.

By all right he could have went over and twatted Jordan for that challenge, instead he looked for protection from the referee (which is what the referee is there for).

By all right he could have done SFA to Jordan. HE seemed to get his twat in anyhow.

When he didn't get it he flipped, as any normal person would do in that situation.

Lol, your taking the piss now, right?

6ix

PORNAPSTER wrote:

When he didn't get it he flipped, as any normal person would do in that situation.

Why be stupid enough to risk a possibly lengthy ban just to have a go at the ref? He's been playing so well, and (if this is true), he overshadows it all in a rage. Anyone can get pissed off but he's been professional for a while now. He should have the cop on to realise that atttacking the ref will have no benefit whatsoever. Same for Ferguson.

Pure stupidity IMO.

cournioni

Hobart wrote:

I did'nt think the tackle was knee high TBH, if it was it was a terrible tackle.

It was a terrible tackle, knee high. Hopefully someone can post it up for everyone to see.

cournioni

Hobart wrote:

He called the ref a fooking twat on the pitch.

After he had gone to the ref looking for protection.

Hobart wrote:

No he was not dead right. The ref made/did not make a decision. He was not going to change his mind.

He was dead right because the referee wasn't protecting him. What would you do? Say nothing and try to avoid getting an awful injury from the next challenge that comes in knee high?

Hobart wrote:

By all right he could have done SFA to Jordan. HE seemed to get his twat in anyhow.

If someone is trying to end your career, what would you do?

Hobart wrote:

Lol, your taking the piss now, right?

As I said above.

zAbbo

Guess it will be shown on Football First, back on topic, have we any more sources on this story?

Rikand

6ix wrote:

Why be stupid enough to risk a possibly lengthy ban just to have a go at the ref? He's been playing so well, and (if this is true), he overshadows it all in a rage. Anyone can get pissed off but he's been professional for a while now. He should have the cop on to realise that atttacking the ref will have no benefit whatsoever. Same for Ferguson.

Pure stupidity IMO.

they should strip him of his player of the month award if this turns out to be true, imo!

Corben Dallas

If this is true (hasnt been widely reported) then the should make an example to SAF and Rooney(they wont with Rooney, hes goin to WC as England Capt.)

But Alex has long taken the view, Refs dont book/send off/(his own players)& give Penatlys to away teams in Old Traffard on his watch. He must be punished if hes done this at half time.

Theres no fair play if the Home Team intimadates the ref into not giving decesions.

I'm gald he sent off Ronaldo in the second half, can u say 'payback' Alex?.

Chardee MacDennis

does no-one else think rooney, ferdinand and giggs should all have been sent off for the gang up on bennet... if he had done it then players might think twice about confronting refs and mouthing off to them...

as regards saying ronaldo would have not got sent off if bennet had seen this or that, there is absolutely no excuse for a tackle of that nature if he had made contact it could have broken his leg. players should cop on and just get up when decisions go against them, i manage to do it playing sunday league football why cant they do it?

by the way is anybody else pi$$ed off with how up rooney's ar$e some commentators are? i mean he is a good player unfortunately he acts like an idiot sometimes. did anyone see united - bolton on setanta when lou macari claimed rooney was great to have BOTH got a shot on target AND forced the keeper to make a save!!! i mean wtf, then he was given motm and one of the reasons given was that he hadnt been booked!!! and dont get me started on how much andy gray loves both rooney and united...

Lemlin

Just saw Ronaldo's tackle. How anyone can say that isn't a sending off offence is a joke. He may not have made contact but what if he had?

jank

If someone is trying to end your career, what would you do?

Ah come on now, I dont think he wanted to end his career now do you?

county

6ix wrote:

Yeah the ref made a few poor decisions, including the red card for ronaldo (should've been yellow imo), but in all fairness whats the point in kicking a door and shouting at the ref?

No excuse except stupidity on both their parts.

you base this post on hearsay and rumour

mayordenis

PORNAPSTER wrote:

I have it right here on tape. Are you calling me a liar?

look you really dont deserve an answer.
my view of it was a reasonably bad tackle but not as heinous as you make it out to be.
stop trying to start fights.
and you're probably a liar but i won't risk being banned to tell you what i really think of you.

cournioni

mayordenis wrote:

my view of it was a reasonably bad tackle but not as heinous as you make it out to be.
stop trying to start fights.
and you're probably a liar but i won't risk being banned to tell you what i really think of you.

Are you "viewing" it from memory or what are you doing. I've played it three or four times on the tape and it looks worse each time. And for the record, I am not a liar, I'm just hoping someone can post up the mpeg of the incident to prove people like you wrong.

If you want to tell me what you really think of me, please do. PM is working just fine.

cournioni

jank wrote:

Ah come on now, I dont think he wanted to end his career now do you?

Looking at the challenge yes. Joey Barton tried the exact same thing 10 minutes before hand, but luckily he didn't catch him. Rooney was livid after that challenge, then when the Jordan challenge went in you could understand why he lost the head.

jank

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Looking at the challenge yes.

Ya...sure.. If he really wanted to, why didnt he do it later.....

**** sake get over it like, Take off those red tinted glasses. It seems that you are the only person that holds this view point....

People wonder then why when United lose there are always a few bannings on boards.ie..:rolleyes:

As I said get over it. I could have ranted and raved about Shearer's tackle on Campbell a few weeks back. I ranted about the ref, said Shearer is a thug but left it at that. Maybe you should do the same.

mayordenis

ok i havent seen it since the live airing,
my biggest grievence however is that rooney was still completely out of line.
When didi hamann was on the end of a far worse challenge how did he react?
he was completely calm an didnt say a work to the ref.
Rooney is petulant, he is the personifaction of petulance.

fade2black

He's 20 and acting like it. He's trying to shed that part of his game though, and it shows. He's passionate and I wouldn't trade him for 20 Diddies. (;) )

mayordenis

im certainly not going to debate didi vs. rooney as a player,
then again i wouldnt trade anything for rooney either . .

cournioni

jank wrote:

Ya...sure.. If he really wanted to, why didnt he do it later.....

**** sake get over it like, Take off those red tinted glasses. It seems that you are the only person that holds this view point....

Am I getting to you because what I said is the truth? Both yourself and mayordenis are carrying on the arguement, so I am just answering your arguements. What difference does it make that I am the only one arguing Rooney's case? I think someone should defend him scene as alot of people act like vultures around here every time he puts a toe out of line.

RE*AC*TOR

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Am I getting to you because what I said is the truth? Both yourself and mayordenis are carrying on the arguement, so I am just answering your arguements. What difference does it make that I am the only one arguing Rooney's case? I think someone should defend him scene as alot of people act like vultures around here every time he puts a toe out of line.

Stop being a troll. The tackle was below the knee and everyone (apart from you ) knows it. It was a relatively poor tackle, but caused no damage. Rooney has a bad attitude, now and in the past and probably needs to be punished harshly, with a belt.

The Muppet

There is nothing in any of the reports I have seen saying Rooney kicked down the refs door. Fergie and Rooney are alledged to have a verbal exchange with the official at half time. Let's see what the ref has to say about the incident before crucifying anyone.

county

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Rooney has a bad attitude, now and in the past and probably needs to be punished harshly, with a belt.

didnt know you are into s&m,but back to the your post why should rooney be punished harshly,for giving the ref some verbal,this is`nt ballet you know

mayordenis

no but take rugby a much tougher sport and how is the ref treated? fantastically.
and the apparent door kicking should result in a lenghty ban.

county

mayordenis wrote:

no but take rugby a much tougher sport and how is the ref treated? fantastically.
and the apparent door kicking should result in a lenghty ban.

by apparent you mean rumour,and i agree with your other point,but rugby refs i feel are better than football refs,and the technology helps big time

Lemlin

Rumour or not, one things that's for sure is that someone needs to take Rooney aside and sort out his attitude towards referees. His constant backchat isn't doing him any favours, just picking him up yellow cards.

He's a tremendous footballer but he needs to learn to have respect for officials.

The Muppet

mayordenis wrote:

and the apparent door kicking should result in a lenghty ban.

Should the lenghty ban be applied whether the alledged incident happened or not. The only place I have seen Rooney accused of kicking the refs door is in this thread.

ZENER

I feel sure that if such an incident did actually take place then Rooney would n't have been back on the pitch seconf half, the ref can show a red card before and after the whistle is blown.

There were several bad tackles that went unchecked by the ref in that game. If the tackle on Ronaldo had been dealt with the follow up due to perceived injustice on Ronaldos part wouldn't have happened. The tackles - two that I can recall - on Rooney weren't dealt with, including the one above the knee.

Jank wrote:

People wonder then why when United lose there are always a few bannings on boards.ie..

Because of s***e stirrers like you . . .

ZEN/Tinky

Chardee MacDennis

ZENER wrote:

Because of s***e stirrers like you . . .

my guess is coz childish glory hunters cant deal with following a rubbish team...

Jammer

I think, from the start, it was going to happen. Consistant bad decisions by the linesmen and referee. United had the game under control, and it slowly slipped away with terrible decisions be the officials, with the first goal, which should have been offside (the original cross in, vessel was a good half yard offside) just rubbed salt in it all.

Jordan makes a tackle, catches the man hard, doesnt win the ball, and no free kick. Ronaldo makes a similar takle, doesnt catch the man, almost gets the ball and he's sent off. Yellow card at most. Both of the challenges.

The tackle on rooney was essien-esque. He wears his socks up to his knee, and the guy got his skin, so obviously it was knee-height. It was just on match of the day a second ago. Should have been a yellow/red card IMO. He obviously intended to do damage, why else to you tackle that high when the ball is on the deck? He wasn't lunging. It was pre-meditated.

When tackles such as that one and jordans on Ronaldo are going away without free kicks, never mind cards, the players are in danger of being injured by reckless tackles. The referee is there to protect, like has already been said.

City had a few bad decisions against them aswel.

Jammer

Call_me_al wrote:

my guess is coz childish glory hunters cant deal with following a rubbish team...

Anyone else find this a bit ironic?

mike65

Okay kids here's the report you've been waiting for

As if their day was not humiliating enough, Wayne Rooney and his Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson could face Football Association charges after a remarkable half-time confrontation with referee Steve Bennett.

Rooney, who had been booked late in the first half for swearing at Bennett, apparently came off shouting and cursing, before kicking and punching a set of double doors leading to the dressing-room in front of astonished television crews and stewards.

It was another example of Rooney's ferocious temper, though Ferguson did nothing to placate him when he came off the pitch, instead launching an attack on Bennett for allowing City's first goal, which he thought was offside and allegedly suggesting that he would need a police escort to get out of the ground.

from the telegraph

They will both in in hot water for this one. Rooney is already out of a match (Burton reply?) for picking up 5 yellows.

Mike.

Jammer

Just watching Blackburn V Bolton, O'brein from bolton put in a challenge 10 times worse then ronaldo, and got a yellow. Adds to the inconsistency that has been haunting the referee's all season.

zAbbo

Almost every tabloid is running the story tomorrow, but dropping the emphasis on Rooneys actions.

Also some interesting Sven stories