The Big One match thread (before/during/after)

The Muppet

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote:

Agreed, the league table shows that United are a match for liverpool and are far better than Arsenal. Unfortunately how the league table stands now is hardly conclusive, end of the season we will have a better idea of both liverpools improvement and how far united really have fallen. Having said that, now that United are 'concentrating on the league' the reduced strain matchwise and travel etc taken into account should leave them with the easier of it.

Agreed , TBH it was the mention of Arsenal that I would disagree with most. LIverpool have definitely closed the gap on United and argueably may have overtaken them this season. As you say the table at the end of season will tell the truth as it always does..

cournioni

Just back... Terrible game, great atmosphere at the end. A few of those inflatable cups seemed to go missing after Rio stuck the ball in the net.

United are truely brutal at midfield. The only player that played decent was Giggs and he only started playing 20 minutes from the end when he ran at Liverpool. It is a big problem, and I can see it losing us a couple of games before the end of the season.

wheres me jumpa

my bad,

i wasnt trying to say we were not a match this year. im was talking in relation to the "change in powers" which will be even greater next year apparently. taking into account the above injuries and such we are a match for the pool this year. i do feel we will get second place this year.

as a united fan it kills me to say, hats off to liverpool. they have improved a great deal and are genuine ccontenders for the title in the future. however liverpool fans have to admit, both united and liverpool are a long way off chelsea.

while we are arguing over whos in decline chelsea are pulling further and further away. united and liverpool both need a huge improvement next year. and what i was saying above is that with the signings united have and will make, theres no reason to suggest liverpool are going to pull away from united.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Speculation on future signings will do nothing either, a good team will build form he back or crumble as Real have. If you look at liverpool now, they have a defence who play as a unit, move forward as one and all know each other well. Finnan is playing excellently, Sami is his usual self, Mr Reliable, nopt the pace anymore but reminds me of Paul McGrath can read a game as well as anybody in the prem. Carragher is on a different level altogether, he can tackle, run, read a game, and play the ball well. Our left back spot is not too badly covered either with Riise and Warnock competing for the spot.

Uniteds defence just looks creaky at the moment, and that is why they are losing games, as was said already, if liverpool had a strikeforce worth their salt that game could have been over as a contest in the first half. What united do have and is really the only thing going for them, is a strkeforce up there with the best. Rooney is a rare talent, not the best I have ever seen at his age but certainly has bags of potential. RvN is just a machine and while I do not think he will get the top prm scorer this season, I think between him and rooney they will outscore any other pair in the prem.

Guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

wheres me jumpa

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote:

Speculation on future signings will do nothing either, a good team will build form he back or crumble as Real have. If you look at liverpool now, they have a defence who play as a unit, move forward as one and all know each other well. Finnan is playing excellently, Sami is his usual self, Mr Reliable, nopt the pace anymore but reminds me of Paul McGrath can read a game as well as anybody in the prem. Carragher is on a different level altogether, he can tackle, run, read a game, and play the ball well. Our left back spot is not too badly covered either with Riise and Warnock competing for the spot.

Uniteds defence just looks creaky at the moment, and that is why they are losing games, as was said already, if liverpool had a strikeforce worth their salt that game could have been over as a contest in the first half. What united do have and is really the only thing going for them, is a strkeforce up there with the best. Rooney is a rare talent, not the best I have ever seen at his age but certainly has bags of potential. RvN is just a machine and while I do not think he will get the top prm scorer this season, I think between him and rooney they will outscore any other pair in the prem.

Guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

i think united have a young back line that has potential. next year it should be,

neville ferdinand brown/vidic heinze

ferdinand has been playing well of late and as has brown. great defences play together week in week out. there has been too many chopping and changing in uniteds back line.

whiskeyman

wheres me jumpa wrote:

scholes - slow start to the season and recent injury.

Just heard on BBC that he's out for the rest of the season with his "eye condition".

I wonder if his career is in doubt.

yop

United defence should improve with the signing of Vidic + return of Heinze, Evra looks almost like Silvestres son!

Midfield is in dire need of surgery, IF Scholes is in bother with his sight then his experience will be a massive loss, Giggs has lost pace so cannot expect too much, Ronaldo we can give him the benefit of the doubt with the issues in his life at the moment, but if he does not do it next year should be shipped.

Fletcher and JOS should try Popstars.

On the young lads coming through, I do think we have 3 with excellent potential, Jones, Marcus Neumayr(the german Beckham) and Lee Martin.
Maybe Chris Eagles, Gerard Pique & Spector may make it.


Up front RVN is top scorer, but yet is deemed to be not up to it or past it, cannot figure that one out.
Rooney, looks a class act, he is still young so cud be great or fall at the fence.
Rossi - I expect a lot from this guy.
Saha - Transfered out a end of season
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake could also be one to watch.


On Liverpool, I think Reina is going to be around for a long time,
Hyppia is slowing down but exp wise is good, Carra is one of the best in England without doubt, hard to know about Finnan, playing well this season.

The midfield with Gerard, Alonso and Hamman are very strong. Kewell & Garcia I don't think will win ye a PL.

Up front I think ye really have problems, not 1 striker in the top 15 top scorers. Only 24 goals between for a spending of maybe 30 million has to be a concern

But hey i see ye have a United reject on yer books, he might get some goals

county

whiskeyman wrote:

Just heard on BBC that he's out for the rest of the season with his "eye condition".

I wonder if his career is in doubt.

really bad news for united,and really tricky to get cover for him,united have to spend but with so little time left in the transfer window and all the top midfielders in champ league action,who will they get??this is worrying to say the least:(

s8n

thats terrible news.....

Linky

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=356497&CPID=8&clid=&lid=4161&title=Scholes+ruled+out+for+season

Gegerty

super_furry wrote:

Neither side will challenge Chelsea this season and so will have to settle for a Champions League spot. The only thing that United have over Liverpool is a Carling Cup semi-final which, as you lot never tire of telling all and sundry, isn't worth a piss.

I meant challenge Chelsea in the years to come, not this season. I doubt even next season but who knows, Chelsea can look shaky from time to time and as Arsenal have learnt 1 game can change everything.

Carling cup still isn't a serious cup to united fans, it's only Liverpool fans that are saying its worth something to united. Having said that, there's a lot of young players that need the taste of victory and if united can win the carling cup the credit will be given to our reserve players like Rossi, Pique, Bardsley etc Its all about growing confidence but It's still not a serious cup imo.

super_furry

county wrote:

really bad news for united,and really tricky to get cover for him,united have to spend but with so little time left in the transfer window and all the top midfielders in champ league action,who will they get??this is worrying to say the least:(

Morton Gamst-Pedersen would be a good replacement, Blackburn may not be willing to talk business though.

county

super_furry wrote:

Morton Gamst-Pedersen would be a good replacement, Blackburn may not be willing to talk business though.

i think it has to be a short term stop gap,too late in the season to buy real quailty,i agree with you that blackburn would be unwilling to do business,but if united made an offer i think mgp would go like a shot

yop

We could always turn Silvestre into an attacking midfielder cause he ain't a defender

county

yop wrote:

We could always turn Silvestre into an attacking midfielder cause he ain't a defender

oh so true,i have never had conifdence in him

Gegerty

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?HLID=356480&CPID=24&title=Houllier+wants+Silvestre&lid=2&channel=Football_Home&f=rss

Or we could just sell him

fade2black

Mr Gary Neville, 30, is wanted by police in connection with a serious incident near Manchester's Trafford DevilBowl on Sunday afternoon. Neville was caught on CCTV committing the recently outlawed activity of displaying passion during a football match. His conduct was an affront to the mature sensibilities of enlightened, right-thinking persons who had endeavoured to build bridges between the cities of Manchester and Liverpool during the game by singing hymns such as: "Are you watching Georgie Best?" and "Who's that dying on the runway?" Police would also like to question Mr Neville in connection with the suspicious death of a whale in the London area.

Mr Neville is of average height and appearance and is distinctive only through whispy facial b*mfluff and an extremely irritating voice. He should not be approached under any circumstances, especially in tunnels in the Highbury district of London when a Mr Royston Keane is in the vicinity. When found guilty, Neville will be put in front a firing squad consisting of Djibril Cisse and a tall man resembling "Timmah!" from South Park - his prospects of survival are rated "very good".

Gissagong FC defender Sir James Carragher CBE has fully endorsed the manhunt. "There is a line and Neville crossed it," opined the calm, rational figure that famously threw a coin at Highbury spectators in 2002 and held five fingers up to Rowdies supporters after the two sides drew 0-0 in September. "I've heard people say it's justified because he gets a lot of stick from the Gissagong fans, but he gets the stick because he's been doing that for years," Sir Jamie continued before possibly concluding: "Look at me when I banged in two at the wrong end for United against Liverpool in 1999: I didn't celebrate then, did I eh? Eh? Eh?"

FBI sources have confirmed that Hollywood star Keanu Reeves is being questioned over allegations that he has incited every single gun-related crime since filming The Matrix in 1999. But reports that a black armband-endorsed minute's silence will be held for a dead whale before Gissagong FC's next home game are as yet unconfirmed.




I just didn't have the patience to read through all 900 pages this thread, some of what I did read though was laughable and proved that there really are some idiot Liverpool fans out there and a dolloping of Man United fans out there. And Mayordennis, what I read of your contribution really showed your age...(you are 14 aren't you?)..:D....It was a fairly decent game I felt, Liverpool looked a lot more organised and can certainly walk away from the game with their heads high (if that's possible)...a lot of frailties were shown in the United side but at least they showed the spirit and passion they'd been lacking recently (the same qualities that won Liverpool their prized possesion last season) to battle on and win at the death.

It's only the battle won for united, the war is still ongoing.

Aquos76

Dont think Mayordenis will react to this fade as he was banned from the soccer forun today. He is in the feedback forum moaning about the mods again.

RasTa

http://media.putfile.com/Green6854

Aquos76

RasTa wrote:

http://media.putfile.com/Green6854

and the video link is here

http://media.putfile.com/Gary-Neville-is-a-red

yop

Aquos76 wrote:

Dont think Mayordenis will react to this fade as he was banned from the soccer forun today. He is in the feedback forum moaning about the mods again.

Thats gas, thank god some people have a sense of humour!

cournioni

Go on the Neviller!

http://x4.putfile.com/1/2112421596.gif (1.6 MB) :cool:

I think the Liverpool fans moaning about it should cop on. You never had any United fans complaining about their little blow up trophies/5's. Grow up lads. Nothing wrong with a player showing passion for his club.

PiE

Don't really care about him showing his passion, but his antics just screamed of "LOOK AT ME FANS; I REALLY AM A LEADER AND A WORTHY SUCCESSOR TO KEANE, NO REALLY LOOK I SWEAR I AM!"

cournioni

I disagree.

PHB

Neville was at United before Keano, and is there after him. He is United through and through and united fans love him. He is hated by everyone else, which makes us love him even more.

If you asked Neville was he a worthy successor to Keano, he'd laugh at you, because he knows he isn't. You think he needs to act in a certain way to get most United fans to like him?

PiE

Yes.

fade2black

Then you're wrong.

cournioni

I disagree with PiE yet again.

p.pete

PiE wrote:

Don't really care about him showing his passion, but his antics just screamed of "LOOK AT ME FANS; I REALLY AM A LEADER AND A WORTHY SUCCESSOR TO KEANE, NO REALLY LOOK I SWEAR I AM!"

LOL, I doubt that was what was going through his head to be honest. He obviously just wanted to go celebrate with the passionate people in the crowd, bit of a silly thing to do though.

county

fade2black wrote:

Mr Gary Neville, 30, is wanted by police in connection with a serious incident near Manchester's Trafford DevilBowl on Sunday afternoon. Neville was caught on CCTV committing the recently outlawed activity of displaying passion during a football match. His conduct was an affront to the mature sensibilities of enlightened, right-thinking persons who had endeavoured to build bridges between the cities of Manchester and Liverpool during the game by singing hymns such as: "Are you watching Georgie Best?" and "Who's that dying on the runway?" Police would also like to question Mr Neville in connection with the suspicious death of a whale in the London area.

Mr Neville is of average height and appearance and is distinctive only through whispy facial b*mfluff and an extremely irritating voice. He should not be approached under any circumstances, especially in tunnels in the Highbury district of London when a Mr Royston Keane is in the vicinity. When found guilty, Neville will be put in front a firing squad consisting of Djibril Cisse and a tall man resembling "Timmah!" from South Park - his prospects of survival are rated "very good".

Gissagong FC defender Sir James Carragher CBE has fully endorsed the manhunt. "There is a line and Neville crossed it," opined the calm, rational figure that famously threw a coin at Highbury spectators in 2002 and held five fingers up to Rowdies supporters after the two sides drew 0-0 in September. "I've heard people say it's justified because he gets a lot of stick from the Gissagong fans, but he gets the stick because he's been doing that for years," Sir Jamie continued before possibly concluding: "Look at me when I banged in two at the wrong end for United against Liverpool in 1999: I didn't celebrate then, did I eh? Eh? Eh?"

FBI sources have confirmed that Hollywood star Keanu Reeves is being questioned over allegations that he has incited every single gun-related crime since filming The Matrix in 1999. But reports that a black armband-endorsed minute's silence will be held for a dead whale before Gissagong FC's next home game are as yet unconfirmed.




I just didn't have the patience to read through all 900 pages this thread, some of what I did read though was laughable and proved that there really are some idiot Liverpool fans out there and a dolloping of Man United fans out there. And Mayordennis, what I read of your contribution really showed your age...(you are 14 aren't you?)..:D....It was a fairly decent game I felt, Liverpool looked a lot more organised and can certainly walk away from the game with their heads high (if that's possible)...a lot of frailties were shown in the United side but at least they showed the spirit and passion they'd been lacking recently (the same qualities that won Liverpool their prized possesion last season) to battle on and win at the death.

It's only the battle won for united, the war is still ongoing.

class,keep up the good work:D

PiE

fade2black wrote:

Then you're wrong.

Impossible.

fade2black

PiE wrote:

Impossible.

Hobart

Everybody loves Gary. He's the captain of Manu and each player on the team aspires to be just like him. He is also highly respected by each and every true lover of football.*




*The above statement may contain some items that stretch the boundries of truth