Good/Bad Pings??

TouchingVirus

Hey all,

I just moved into a new house in Maynooth with Ice Wireless Broadband.

I ran the Irish ISP test from irishisptest.com and got these results

Download: 1.45Mbps
Upload: 1.88Mbps

QoS: 71%

Round Trip : 40ms

Max Pause : 320ms

Running 150 pings on Jolt.co.uk/boards.ie/hosting365.ie and heanet.ie and taking the average i get this:

heanet.ie wrote:

Ping statistics for 193.1.219.79:
Packets: Sent = 150, Received = 149, Lost = 1 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 2358ms, Average = 158ms

hosting365.ie wrote:

Ping statistics for 82.195.128.250:
Packets: Sent = 150, Received = 149, Lost = 1 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 31ms, Maximum = 2501ms, Average = 133ms

boards.ie wrote:

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.250:
Packets: Sent = 150, Received = 149, Lost = 1 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 33ms, Maximum = 2501ms, Average = 143ms

jolt.co.uk wrote:

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 150, Received = 148, Lost = 2 (1% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 2338ms, Average = 152ms

Any idea if these pings are good enough to play online or are they rubbish??

Advice would be appreciated..

TouchingVirus

anybody feel like answering now?

Airblazer

they're terrible..I'm presuming your on a 2mb package in which case you should be getting a ping of 30ms or less to irish/uk sites...
For gaming anything above 150ms will be no good and in all honesty they should be below 100ms for a true gaming experience..
Also your qos (quality of service) should be hitting at least the 95% mark when everything is going ok.
I suggest you ring Ice and let them know about your high pings (max pings of 2501ms are quite simply unacceptable).

P.S. I'm on Digiweb Metro (3mb/512kb) and I get approx 19ms to boards.ie and approx 22ms to heanet..
On most bf2 servers (european servers) my highest ping would be about 60ms but most are around the 34ms mark.

TouchingVirus

Airblazer wrote:

they're terrible..I'm presuming your on a 2mb package in which case you should be getting a ping of 30ms or less to irish/uk sites...
For gaming anything above 150ms will be no good and in all honesty they should be below 100ms for a true gaming experience..
Also your qos (quality of service) should be hitting at least the 95% mark when everything is going ok.
I suggest you ring Ice and let them know about your high pings (max pings of 2501ms are quite simply unacceptable).

P.S. I'm on Digiweb Metro (3mb/512kb) and I get approx 19ms to boards.ie and approx 22ms to heanet..
On most bf2 servers (european servers) my highest ping would be about 60ms but most are around the 34ms mark.

Cheers For that Airblazer, i'll give them a ring now

ntlbell

can you post some traceroute's?

Airblazer

TouchingVirus wrote:

Cheers For that Airblazer, i'll give them a ring now

no problemo

TouchingVirus

ntlbell wrote:

can you post some traceroute's?

Boards wrote:

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.136.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 53 ms 42 ms 39 ms 213.168.230.1
2 75 ms 144 ms 83 ms 213.168.225.241
3 36 ms 99 ms 49 ms 213.168.224.18
4 718 ms 1154 ms 290 ms 213.242.106.13
5 150 ms 81 ms 90 ms so-4-1-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.128.117]
6 105 ms 91 ms 50 ms ge-11-2.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.179]
7 133 ms 141 ms 164 ms panama.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.2]
8 82 ms 101 ms 74 ms corerouter1.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.7]
9 1038 ms * 125 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.250]

HEAnet wrote:

1 143 ms 181 ms 130 ms 213.168.230.1
2 * 60 ms 41 ms 213.168.225.241
3 118 ms 51 ms 72 ms sl-gw1-dub-6-0-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.1.97]
4 101 ms 69 ms 197 ms sl-bb21-dub-0-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.0.66]
5 97 ms 61 ms 65 ms sl-bb21-lon-2-2.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.112]
6 260 ms 105 ms 150 ms 213.206.131.26
7 97 ms 100 ms 95 ms so0-0-0-2488M.ar1.DUB1.gblx.net [67.17.66.6]
8 116 ms 112 ms 106 ms HEAnet-2.so-3-0-0.ar1.dub1.gblx.net [208.48.23.54]
9 97 ms 130 ms 117 ms mantova-gige5-2.bh.access.hea.net [193.1.195.136]
0 378 ms 140 ms 130 ms portia-po1.bh.access.hea.net [193.1.196.218]
1 130 ms 94 ms 123 ms www.heanet.ie [193.1.219.79]

Jolt wrote:

Tracing route to jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 11 ms 20 ms 14 ms 213.168.230.1
2 82 ms 48 ms 24 ms 213.168.225.241
3 37 ms 30 ms 24 ms sl-gw1-dub-6-0-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.1.97]
4 9 ms 11 ms 10 ms sl-bb21-dub-0-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.0.66]
5 2030 ms 277 ms 100 ms sl-bb21-lon-2-2.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.112]
6 650 ms 229 ms 110 ms sl-bb20-par-6-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.138]
7 58 ms 38 ms 69 ms sl-gw10-par-14-0.sprintlink.net [217.118.224.38]
8 36 ms 36 ms 59 ms sl-telia1-5-0.sprintlink.net [217.118.225.234]
9 60 ms 74 ms 79 ms prs-bb1-pos6-1-3.telia.net [213.248.70.1]
10 66 ms 87 ms 115 ms ldn-bb1-pos7-2-0.telia.net [213.248.64.10]
11 76 ms 37 ms 44 ms ldn-b3-pos6-0.telia.net [213.248.65.238]
12 68 ms 52 ms 39 ms pipex-110586-ldn-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.100.30]
13 49 ms * 505 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [84.12.224.14]
14 41 ms 139 ms 42 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.214]
15 110 ms 196 ms 50 ms 82.133.85.65

There ya go, traceroutes to boards,heanet and jolt.co.uk

ntlbell

Well that seems to answer your own question.

That's some disgusting routing for an Irish ISP.

ringing them won't do alot for you i'm afraid.

keyran

Have you switched of anything else you might have running. VOIP Limewire stuff like that?

Stuff that might be using bandwidth. Try temp disabling the firewall as well and tracert again see if there is any improvement.

TouchingVirus

ntlbell wrote:

Well that seems to answer your own question.

That's some disgusting routing for an Irish ISP.

ringing them won't do alot for you i'm afraid.

How would the ISP improve traceroutes though, i know there is nothing an enduser can do.

Could you post your traceroutes to compare hops?

TouchingVirus

keyran wrote:

Have you switched of anything else you might have running. VOIP Limewire stuff like that?

Stuff that might be using bandwidth. Try temp disabling the firewall as well and tracert again see if there is any improvement.

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 7 ms 17 ms 213.168.230.1
2 16 ms 277 ms 424 ms 213.168.225.241
3 39 ms 11 ms 16 ms sl-gw1-dub-6-0-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.1.97]
4 15 ms 8 ms 10 ms sl-bb21-dub-0-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.0.66]
5 25 ms 33 ms 22 ms sl-bb21-lon-2-2.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.112]

6 571 ms 167 ms 442 ms sl-bb20-par-6-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.138]

7 35 ms 41 ms 28 ms sl-gw10-par-14-0.sprintlink.net [217.118.224.38]

8 50 ms 28 ms 35 ms sl-telia1-5-0.sprintlink.net [217.118.225.234]
9 28 ms 27 ms 31 ms prs-bb1-pos6-1-3.telia.net [213.248.70.1]
10 1345 ms 242 ms 119 ms ldn-bb1-pos7-2-0.telia.net [213.248.64.10]
11 37 ms 45 ms 45 ms ldn-b3-pos6-0.telia.net [213.248.65.238]
12 33 ms 61 ms 39 ms pipex-110586-ldn-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.100.30]

13 83 ms 55 ms 31 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [84.12.224.14]
14 51 ms 42 ms 84 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.214]
15 37 ms 25 ms 41 ms 82.133.85.65


Theres the one i get with firewall off..better ping times just reflect less traffic to work through, same hops etc...

Airblazer

what firewall are you using? Zonealarm?

ntlbell

TouchingVirus wrote:

How would the ISP improve traceroutes though, i know there is nothing an enduser can do.

Could you post your traceroutes to compare hops?

By building a decent network in the first place.

It looks like they took a bit of a budget route for capacity Packet Exchange sprint etc.

so as you can see in your trace to boards.ie your hopping around dublin then over half of the uk, then back Dublin.

I can't see your pings ever been GREAT but they could be a bit better.


2.231.46.73]
3 11 ms 7 ms 7 ms DN04-fe-1-3-0-352-guinness.irishbroadband.ie [83
.141.117.185]
4 12 ms 7 ms 7 ms DN42-as0-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231
.52.153]
5 11 ms 8 ms 7 ms DN42-ge-0-2-0-50-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [62.2
31.52.157]
6 13 ms 7 ms 7 ms panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.242.111.87]
7 14 ms 10 ms 12 ms corerouter1.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.7]
8 16 ms 9 ms 10 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.250]

Naikon

I am with Digiweb 2mb/s and my results from that particular test is as follows

Download:483kbps
Upload:217kbps
Roundtriptime:92ms
Max pause:884ms
service quality:62%

Pretty shocking considering i thought digiweb were supposedly great for DSL.
I do have a wireless connection to my router from my pc but it is 2 meters from my desk and these results are pretty crap:mad:

I am going to ring them about it.

Anyone know if the wireless is to blame

Cheers;)