FA Cup 5th Round Draw

Jivin Turkey · 30-01-2006 9:21pm

Chucky the tree wrote:

We drew twice with them this season in the Champions league.

Ah forgot that. Still nothing to be writing home about.

PHB · 30-01-2006 9:25pm

Teams I was happy to avoid over Liverpool:
Bolton, Manchester City, Middlesbrough

To suggest Arsenal play an english stlye of football is just untrue, they play a 4-4-2 which is anything but physical. Also, while beat them last season, let's see how you do against them this season when they have something to fight for.

I still don't think Liverpool have the ability to beat another team which plays a solid 4-4-2 with decent players who play a physical 4-4-2. It's not just to do with United, it's to do with their overall preformance against physical english teams, specifically this year, look at United, Bolton, Luton, Brum, Spurs, Middlesborough. They can handle them mostly in defense, but up front, they are totally lacking due to the style of formation, so against a team which attacks enough, they tend not to be able to handle it, because they can't score enough to compete.

Chucky the tree · 30-01-2006 9:31pm

PHB wrote:

United, Bolton, Luton, Brum, Spurs, Middlesborough. .

United - drew, lost to last minute winner, but of course your midfield dominated us.
luton - won 5-3.

brum - 2-2 away(same result you lot got wasnt it?)

spurs - drew away, won at home(something united couldnt do)

boro - drew away(something united couldnt do aswell), won at home.(2-0)

Bolton - 2-2 draw.

YOur right, were **** against the physical sides, no where near as good as united.

scored 2 goals in alot of those games, terrible. Such a shame we cant score enough to compete with united.

PHB · 30-01-2006 9:36pm

Thats the whole point, United falter against physical sides often this season, specifically because of our complete lack of midfield, thus if we get a physical side int eh FA cup, anything could happen, but if we get a tactical side, i'm much more comfortable with that, as I feel United overall are better at beating those sides.

Chucky the tree · 30-01-2006 9:40pm

Man city, boro physical? Dont agree with that myself. How are they physical?

Spurs are a very good footballing side, again wouldnt be classed as a physical team. United just dont see to arsed getting motivated for teams outside of the "big 3". SO there midfield lets them down.

Tusky · 30-01-2006 10:05pm

PHB wrote:

Teams I was happy to avoid over Liverpool:
Bolton, Manchester City, Middlesbrough

To suggest Arsenal play an english stlye of football is just untrue, they play a 4-4-2 which is anything but physical. Also, while beat them last season, let's see how you do against them this season when they have something to fight for.

Sometimes you are right on the ball PHB but more often than not, you make mental comments that must seem like trolling to some. You would honestly prefer to play the above teams above Liverpool ?

PHB · 30-01-2006 10:17pm

In an FA Cup round, with a weakened midfield, I would honastly prefer to play Liverpool. I'm not trolling, why in the world would I troll, it has no real interest, infact it annoys me when people disagree with me, but I think that we have abetter chance of beating Liverpool than we have of beating those 3 other teams. I'm not saying I don't like our chances against them, and over the entire season I'd happily take them on over liverpool, but i'm fairly confident in a one off game, we're more likely to be beaten by those 3 other teams, than by Liverpool.

Jivin Turkey · 30-01-2006 10:49pm

PHB wrote:

In an FA Cup round, with a weakened midfield, I would honastly prefer to play Liverpool. I'm not trolling, why in the world would I troll, it has no real interest, infact it annoys me when people disagree with me, but I think that we have abetter chance of beating Liverpool than we have of beating those 3 other teams. I'm not saying I don't like our chances against them, and over the entire season I'd happily take them on over liverpool, but i'm fairly confident in a one off game, we're more likely to be beaten by those 3 other teams, than by Liverpool.

Well if that's how you feel I'd advise you to put your money where your mouth is. You will get as good odds on a United win as you ever will.

I don't mean to come across as partonising (oxymoron coming up) but the idea that "with a weakened midfield" you would rather play Liverpool than a physical side shows a clear lack of knowledge of the game. Whoever plays in Uniteds "weakened" (or is that regular at this stage?) midfield will at least be able to handle a physical battle. They would be destroyed if players like Alonso and Gerrard actually played to their capabilities, they will hardly out battle the two of them either.

No matter how well the likes of Boro's or Bolton's CM's play, the likes of Fletcher and Smith could match them for effort, and probably ability as well.

Roll on the 18th. It's hardly the perfect draw. But if Liverpool were ever going to be eliminated I would rather sooner over later. It'll be nice to get a chance at revenge too. And you can't beat the big games for atmosphere, even if they usually end up crap!

snickerpuss · 30-01-2006 10:56pm

I'm quite happy with who we got, could have been alot worse.

PHB · 31-01-2006 12:20am

Jivin Turkey wrote:

Well if that's how you feel I'd advise you to put your money where your mouth is. You will get as good odds on a United win as you ever will.

I have already

I don't mean to come across as partonising (oxymoron coming up) but the idea that "with a weakened midfield" you would rather play Liverpool than a physical side shows a clear lack of knowledge of the game. Whoever plays in Uniteds "weakened" (or is that regular at this stage?) midfield will at least be able to handle a physical battle. They would be destroyed if players like Alonso and Gerrard actually played to their capabilities, they will hardly out battle the two of them either. No matter how well the likes of Boro's or Bolton's CM's play, the likes of Fletcher and Smith could match them for effort, and probably ability as well.

The United midfield is as weak as weak can be at the moment. Richardson, Fletcher and Smith are our only CM's. We cannot match anyone for physical battle, Fletcher is weak, smith just fouls non stop, and Richardson is a winger, and is tiny.
Fletchers ability to read the game can keep players like Alonso and Gerrard in check to some extent, while in a physical battle, we are destroyed.
Our central defenders can read the balls played by them very well aswell, see Rio in the last game, so we can handle them. However raw strength through the middle is tougher to handle for United to handle atm, so i'm happy to play liverpool.

eyerer · 31-01-2006 2:10am

just saw on sky's site that liverpool are second favourites, behind chelsea, to win the cup
when was the last time liverpool were favoured over united

el rabitos · 31-01-2006 3:46am

just saw on sky's site that liverpool are second favourites, behind chelsea, to win the cup
when was the last time liverpool were favoured over united

last sunday

eyerer · 31-01-2006 4:39pm

el rabitos wrote:

last sunday

lol
i didn't see the odds on that one

The Muppet · 31-01-2006 4:42pm

el rabitos wrote:

last sunday

Which just goes to show the Bookies are not always right.;)

Fighting Irish · 31-01-2006 4:47pm

Funny how liverpool fans see united as an easy match

el rabitos · 31-01-2006 5:05pm

found this on the bbc website

Manchester United's players will not give TV interviews for one week in protest at repeated showings of Gary Neville's goal celebrations against Liverpool. (The Daily Telegraph)

if thats true, u just have to laugh. what a bunch of girls

meditraitor · 31-01-2006 5:08pm

el rabitos wrote:

found this on the bbc website

if thats true, u just have to laugh. what a bunch of girls

HMV comes to mind

el rabitos · 31-01-2006 5:11pm

HMV comes to mind

....it does?

meditraitor · 31-01-2006 5:14pm

el rabitos wrote:

....it does?

Bit cryptic (made sense in my head)
His masters voice
You know the way dogs usually take on the traits of their owners......

RasTa · 31-01-2006 5:14pm

Easy victory for United. Anfield is easy for us, any pool fan like to point out the last time they beat us at home ? 4-0 United with three being scored at the kop, we will do what Chelsea did to yous at home this season.
Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasyyyyyyyyyyy

el rabitos · 31-01-2006 5:17pm

ah right, i get u now

el rabitos · 31-01-2006 5:20pm

Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasyyyyyyyyyyy

u that guy from big brother or something? or the king of kings?

RasTa · 31-01-2006 5:21pm

Nope i am doing my soccer am routine

eyerer · 31-01-2006 5:29pm

Fighting Irish wrote:

Funny how liverpool fans see united as an easy match

this liverpool fan doesn't..
last time i remember liverpool winning was a danny murphy penalty at old trattford....quite a while ago huh

RasTa · 31-01-2006 5:31pm

Good man, Now pool fans( who are great at bringing up the past i might add ) when was the last time you won at Anfield ?
Yes it is the king of kings

el rabitos · 31-01-2006 5:43pm

stop bugging the liverpool fans simo

i dont remember the last time pool beat them at anfield, theres been a fair few draws as far as i know.

RasTa · 31-01-2006 5:47pm

Selective memory! ( but, winding up the pool fans is what i do... :P )

Jivin Turkey · 31-01-2006 8:12pm

I don't think any Liverpool fans think it will be an easy victory. I think all Liverpool fans think they have a chance, and that it will be a good chance to avenge a recent defeat. I also don't see any Liverpool fans claiming that they are pleased with the draw because "it could have been worse".

Fighting Irish · 31-01-2006 8:30pm

eyerer wrote:

this liverpool fan doesn't..
last time i remember liverpool winning was a danny murphy penalty at old trattford....quite a while ago huh

Ye im a united fan and don't believe united will DEFINATELY win, some of the pool fans around here think the pool are unbeatable, wow you won one major title in the past five years :rolleyes:

MrJoeSoap · 31-01-2006 8:41pm

Fighting Irish wrote:

Ye im a united fan and don't believe united will DEFINATELY win, some of the pool fans around here think the pool are unbeatable, wow you won one major title in the past five years :rolleyes:

Eh some of the United fans are just as bad, if not worse.

Chucky the tree · 31-01-2006 10:33pm

Fighting Irish wrote:

Ye im a united fan and don't believe united will DEFINATELY win, some of the pool fans around here think the pool are unbeatable, wow you won one major title in the past five years :rolleyes:

Can you point out a post where a pool fan has said we are unbeatable?

FA Cup 5th Round Draw

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