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Magic Mushrooms have just been made Illegal in Ireland
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pretty much anything + alcohol = EVILFirespinner wrote:Is it true that mushies + alcohol = EVIL
Thing is alcohol is prefectly acceptable since daddy and the taoiseach use it as their preferred drug of choice.
I know several people who died as a result of accidents while drinking. In this case the guy was drinking and took less than the standard dose of shrooms. His brother and 3 friends split them, that is one punnet split between 5 people! The standard dose sold is 20g fresh which will dry to about 1.6g. Personally I would barely notice the effect of this, it is considered a very low dose and many people complain of them being overpriced for the low dose you got. I have taken up to 6 times the dose that they were splitting between 5 people with absolutely no ill effects. I drink a lot of the time on mushrooms with no ill effects either.
The media, family and government just turn a blind eye to the fact that he was drinking. It is illogical that they conclude mushrooms killed him, this is the first such claim ever in this country that I have heard of, yet I hear of alcohol induced accidents constantly. If a guy drank 10 pints and had a drag on a joint and wrapped a car around a lamp-post the media would probably claim the "evil weed" did it. Just like cannabis "addicts" turn a blind eye to the fact that they are mixing a non-addictive herb with another herb which is recognised as the most addictive substance on the planet! and then their bizarre logic leads them to think they are hooked on cannabis!:eek:
It will be interesting to see what level (if any since he vomitted) of psilocybin was in his body and how much alcohol was too. If the 1.6g dry was split evenly then it is 0.32grams each. This is a chart from a site www.erowid.org which has "recommended" doses for a variety of drugs. It shows this to be between threshold and light. Alcohol will dull the effects as mentioned so this would be barely noticeable for most people.
Oral P. cubensis Dosages
Threshold .25 g 1/100 oz
Light .25 - 1 g 1/100 - 1/28oz
Common 1 - 2.5 g 1/28 - 1/10oz
Strong 2.5 - 5 g 1/10 - 1/6oz
Heavy 5 + g 1/4oz +0 -
Lets not forget that the 0.32g dried was puked up half an hour later ...
The mushroom tissues are very complex and take a long time for your stomach to break them up before it can pass through your intestines and into your blood stream. After a half an hour you can get a sick feeling an this is just your stomach still digesting the mushrooms, this would be the point where you could get sick if you were going to. At this point not much psilocybin would be in your system at all and if you puke then your not going to trip at all after half hour even if he ate the whole lot
People who shroom alot are trying various methods to make the "come up" quicker and the latest thing with lemons makes the cum up at about a half hour on about 3g dried ... so if he could trip balls on 0.32g and come up withing 30mins and puke and still be up and jump then i wish he didnt die so he could tell us all how to do this amazing trick apart from the jumping bit which was his own stupidity mixed with the depressant effects of alcohol
think i might play some trivial persuit next time im mushing maybe thats the trick 0 -
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Marys educated decision was made after she sat down and had some tea and biscuits with the family ... after hearing it all she cried .... AWWWW ..... STUPID WOMAN!!!!
emotion clouds judgement, just cause she hears some sob story off the parents she desides to ignore many studies carried out even by the un about mushrooms not being harmful. I think even the edgit who jumped had more brain power then that
And angry banana you cant be right all the time, an on this subject it seems that you just dont have the experiance to put in a fair comment. Like this isnt a dig at you, its just like if i tried to post on a nasa forum i dont have a clue what im talking about but i wouldnt get annoyed if everyone else who had knowledge on the subject didnt agree with me 0 -
That's exactly the sort of waffle that makes it not worth my while debated. You have absolutely nothing to back this up. It is well-tried, well-tested standard behaviour among politicians to research a topic and wait for an appropriate time to release their decision. If you want evidence that she knows more than a bit about this topic I will PM you it. This is my last comment on the thread though.PTL wrote:Marys educated decision was made after she sat down and had some tea and biscuits with the family ... after hearing it all she cried .... AWWWW ..... STUPID WOMAN!!!!
emotion clouds judgement, just cause she hears some sob story off the parents she desides to ignore many studies carried out even by the un about mushrooms not being harmful. I think even the edgit who jumped had more brain power then that
It seems that ye're the ones who have emotion clouding logic and thus judgement.
[QUOET]And angry banana you cant be right all the time, an on this subject it seems that you just dont have the experiance to put in a fair comment.[/QUOTE]That's more of the flawed logic. You're actually better at assessing medical reports when you haven't suffered brain damage. Your logic tantamounts to the theories that only people who go to university can comment on university funding; only Gardaí can comment on their own behaviour; only insane people can judge the actions of the insane.
Earlier a poster said "a guy who's smoked one spliff knows more about drugs than a guy who's read twenty reports in UCD". That's your logic. It's flawed.
I'm not annoyed that people are disagreeing with me. And simply because I haven't been in space doesn't mean I don't know what the surface of the moon looks like. To those of you that are moaning about your right to do this or that:Like this isnt a dig at you, its just like if i tried to post on a nasa forum i dont have a clue what im talking about but i wouldnt get annoyed if everyone else who had knowledge on the subject didnt agree with me PTL wrote:emotion clouds judgement0 -
Who knows more about the surface of the moon, you or someone who landed on it
Like i do see your point completely but then you go and say "You're actually better at assessing medical reports when you haven't suffered brain damage" if your claiming that being on magic mushrooms give you some level of brain damage then it just shows you havnt read the reports.
And only the guards being able to comment on there own behaviour ... no to make this equal to the mushroom ban it would be like getting someone who is security for a parking lot, listen to a guards story or listen to someone who was abused by the guards and then make a decision on what to do ... She might be in the field of that but obviously hasnt considered both sides of the argument since people who have actually done research like the un and who are considerably more knowledgable about the subject have stated that they are no threat.
Like ive always hated mary harney from day one and i hate the pd's in general but all that aside.... lets take one fact and see do you agree... the un report that states that they arnt a risk .... who do you think spent more time researching mushrooms before making a decision mary or the un?
And a personal question, do you agree with the banning of certain drugs while other drugs which are more harmful are legalised? And dont go on about if we ban drink or tabacco would i be happy (i would be if they banned tabacco but its not the point let people kill themselves but not others, the smoking ban limits people killing others)0 -
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An inquest has said that magic mushrooms were responsible for yer man jumping off the balcony a while ago...
http://www.breakingnews.ie/2006/06/27/story265231.html
Mr O’Reilly said they had smoked a number of cannabis joints, and had a small number of beers as around eight friends gathered together watching golf on television, playing card games and Trivial Pursuit.
The inquest heard a small amount of cannabis and alcohol were detected in his system after death.
Another friend told the inquest Mr Hodkinson had bought around six punnets of the mushrooms for €90 from the Hemp Store on Dublin’s Capel Street.
Mr O’Reilly said four people, including Mr Hodkinson, were eating them with crisps to dilute the taste.
“They had less than two boxes between then,” he said, adding Mr Hodkinson had no more than three mushrooms.
Mr Glavin said the deceased had said the people working in the shop had told him the way to consume them.
“It was a very quiet get-together, we were talking and sipping drinks it wasn’t a wild party by any stretch,” Mr Glavin said.
rofl
"more brandy, good sir?"
"why thank you basil!"
"sir, you simply MUST try one of these delightful magical treats"
"oh I don't know basil, maybe I should stick to what I'm used to"
"sir I must insist -- they really are divine!"
"oh you old cod of a boy basil! give me one of those!"0 -
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DaveMcG wrote:
rofl
"more brandy, good sir?"
"why thank you basil!"
"sir, you simply MUST try one of these delightful magical treats"
"oh I don't know basil, maybe I should stick to what I'm used to"
"sir I must insist -- they really are divine!"
"oh you old cod of a boy basil! give me one of those!"
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DaveMcG wrote:An inquest has said that magic mushrooms were responsible for yer man jumping off the balcony a while ago...
http://www.breakingnews.ie/2006/06/27/story265231.html
Mr O’Reilly said they had smoked a number of cannabis joints, and had a small number of beers as around eight friends gathered together watching golf on television, playing card games and Trivial Pursuit.
The inquest heard a small amount of cannabis and alcohol were detected in his system after death.
Another friend told the inquest Mr Hodkinson had bought around six punnets of the mushrooms for €90 from the Hemp Store on Dublin’s Capel Street.
Mr O’Reilly said four people, including Mr Hodkinson, were eating them with crisps to dilute the taste.
“They had less than two boxes between then,” he said, adding Mr Hodkinson had no more than three mushrooms.
Mr Glavin said the deceased had said the people working in the shop had told him the way to consume them.
“It was a very quiet get-together, we were talking and sipping drinks it wasn’t a wild party by any stretch,” Mr Glavin said.
rofl
"more brandy, good sir?"
"why thank you basil!"
"sir, you simply MUST try one of these delightful magical treats"
"oh I don't know basil, maybe I should stick to what I'm used to"
"sir I must insist -- they really are divine!"
"oh you old cod of a boy basil! give me one of those!"
I don't agree with the ban at all...but I gotta be fair and relate my experience with the Hemp Store.
They basically told me and a mate that we each needed 20g and if we halfed a dose we wouldn't feel much. This is after we said we haven't done them before.
I had a nightmare of a night!0 -
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