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We have a rat among us?

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  • 03-02-2006 2:03am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 958 ✭✭✭


    http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/show/21589
    We received the following from a young man who we will call "Mr. Smith."

    (CW)TB

    Hey guys,

    I interviewed for a guerilla marketing business in San Francisco that targeted web forums.

    I was told that if I accepted the job, I was to have at LEAST 50 identities on as many forums as I could muster (they wanted 100 eventually), with a goal of 5 posts an hour. The posts had to be well thought out, and the idea was that I was to establish multiple identities with a history on the forums, so that when the timing was right a well written but subtly placed marketing post could be finessed in. And regular visitors would recognize the post as coming from a long time poster.

    They had 12 people working there full time, and were hiring 10 more. You do the math. No wait, I'll do it for you: that's 880 posts a day (if minimum was met). However he said the better ones could do around 8 or 10 an hour. And they had different "verticals" so there was the sports guy, and the games guy, the hentai, excuse me I mean anime guy, etc.

    But the most critical point was this: develop and integrate the identity. No random "HEY EB GAMES IS AWESOME BUY THIS" stuff.

    Kinda spooky.

    Didn't take the job. It was a ****ing mill.
    http://www.penny-arcade.com/
    Many people were curious about the revelations of one Mr. Smith we posted recently, revelations authorized only for agents whose sec-prot threshhold is Delta or higher. His seismic expose rocked the very foundations of the thing that we are talking about. I cast my net again recently, and came up with this tasty little cracker:

    [Begin Message]
    Wanna know about marketing, ask a Marketer. Here's a couple nifty bits for ya:
    1) I have in my possession a marketing plan for NBA LIVE 2004 (don't ask how I got it... smile_wink.gif ). This marketing plan actually refers to "Hiring viral specialists to advocate NBA Live online via chat rooms targeting gaming fan sites" and "Placing offensive, defensive and PR shills into common gaming chat arenas." It goes on to outline a full page of tactics for said "Guerilla Online Marketing for Core Gamers."
    2) I actually hired a company called Hype Council (http://www.hypecouncil.com). These guys do a TON of gaming related stuff -- I actually wouldn't be surprised if it's the company referred to in your news post. Their technique is quite insidious. Let's say they were hired to pump up PA (not like you need the buzz, but whatever...). Using one of the hundreds of shill accounts they have across the net, they post a new thread that says something like "hey guys, I've been looking for some new web comics to read. Anybody have any recommendations?" This is non-threatening, and gets the community engaged. They then wait a couple days and post again, this time with "Well, I asked some friends and they suggested I check out Penny Arcade <insert link>. I thought it was pretty funny, although I didn't like all the cuss words. What do you guys think?" Again, seeking engagement, they now have stealthily inserted the client's link, thereby encouraging trial. It's all very measurable and very effective. You should see the monthly reports you get from these guys: everything is detailed. Spooky.
    It's all very insidious and, I'm sure, widespread. So much so that I don't trust anything I read. Unless it's a board where I "know" the posters, I always assume everyone on the board is a shill.

    [End Somewhat Terrifying Message]
    KILL THE RAT


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Mark wrote:
    KILL THE RAT


    So then im busted :(



    kdjac


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭eyerer


    i was gonna make a similar comment to that above

    its the internet though, nothing is to be believed


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    its the internet though, nothing is to be believed

    Exactly, oh and by the way i played a cool awesome game called battlefield 2 from those great guys at EA GAMES! "challenge everything"tm
    which of course recommends microsoft XP!

    its easy as d/ell!


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,919 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭eyerer


    This post has been deleted.

    hes in the reconosance (sp) period
    he likes to do things right btw, he wont post a day too soon



    speaking of pimping things, not only does trackmania world cup install starforce but it also blatently pimps nvidia at the install, gah.
    gah i say.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,301 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    eyerer wrote:
    it also blatently pimps nvidia at the install, gah.
    gah i say.
    I think so does BF2, and I think GTA does so as well.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    So, nvidia are on your books then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    hey guys, have you seen those rad new flicks from the kool Uwe Boll, he's rad!!!

    he makes real edgy movies about dope games like blood rayne & house of the dead, did i mention he's RAD!!!!

    yaeh Uwe Boll is kooool!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Yes. I concur. I think that Uwe Boll is a visionary, I would highly recommend viewing BLOODRAYNE at your nearest theater!




    I feel durty :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    lol, it reminds me of the character from The Secret Of Monkey Island with the "Ask Me About Loom!" badge. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    koneko wrote:
    I feel durty :(

    giggitty.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I just don't know who to start flinging wild accusations at. It's terrible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    Awww, now you can't trust the newbies, nor the "well known" posters? :(

    I think I'll go out to McDonalds to cheer myself up, cos unlike the atmosphere boards.ie, I'm Lovin' It at McDonalds...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    shill? pfft. Talk about Paranoia.

    by the way; has anyone played the game Fifa 06? I like the way it has soccer in it, but all the crappy regurgitation of the same basic idea from 20 years ago makes me want to pull my own eyes out just so I don't have to be patronised any more.

    Did I get the job?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭eyerer


    Awww, now you can't trust the newbies, nor the "well known" posters? :(

    I think I'll go out to McDonalds to cheer myself up, cos unlike the atmosphere boards.ie, I'm Lovin' It at McDonalds...

    you can trust 'well known' n00bs like me though


    i would hire you flogen


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    many people suspect i work for sony with my fanboy spouting round here.... the jigs up i believe. :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Sico wrote:
    giggitty.gif

    naughty.gif


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    many people suspect i work for sony with my fanboy spouting round here.... the jigs up i believe. :o

    That would explain you being the only person I've heard say anything good about Killzone. Ban him!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Just wondering - how much do they pay ??

    Would it be enough to cover the cost of, oh say 100 forums ?

    Then get a bot to pull entire threads from other forums tweak them a bit, so google don't twig and regurgitate them.


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