How much do you pay for your keep ?

mad m

Lump wrote:

You pay your own bills! Shocker! TBH, I think it's quite bad for parents to support their children when they are working full time. Children need to be independent, when they get into the real world, it'll be a kick in the nuts to see what things are really like.

John

Are you a parent John?

WexCan

Lump wrote:

You pay your own bills! Shocker! TBH, I think it's quite bad for parents to support their children when they are working full time. Children need to be independent, when they get into the real world, it'll be a kick in the nuts to see what things are really like.

John

Probably the ideal, but still in the "real world" people need help getting on their feet, and that could very easily stretch until they leave college.

Lump

No I'm not a parent.

John

Megatron

Azureus wrote:

same with me!
but the deal is that when im working i hand over a third of whatever i earn, which is far enough!

That's what i used to do when i was still at home.

worked out at about 400 -600 depend on bonuses.

WexCan

Megatron wrote:

That's what i used to do when i was still at home.

worked out at about 400 -600 depend on bonuses.

Third of what you earn is a bit much, imo. Who are they - family or landlords?

Megatron

WexCan wrote:

Third of what you earn is a bit much, imo. Who are they - family or landlords?

Family , that's the whole point , sure you could stiff a landlord for money , but your gona mess around you Family and free load of them ... well i wouldn't

that is if you are earning money from a regular job ( or even the dole)

WexCan

Megatron wrote:

Family , that's the whole point , sure you could stiff a landlord for money , but your gona mess around you Family and free load of them ... well i wouldn't

that is if you are earning money from a regular job ( or even the dole)

I suppose, but a third just seems to be a lot for a room in the house you grew up in. I agree you should contribute, but that much?

BoozyBabe

Never been asked for anything, but pay €200 / month

The_Conductor

LadyLotts wrote:

I have so much work to do with my A Levels and all. Anyone doing the LC has NO IDEA what real work is like, trust me. My teachers have taught me nothing which requires teaching myself everything I'll need to know and altogether over my 2 years I will have handed in 8 pieces of coursework, 3 of which are about 30-50 pages long and involve either performing a psychological experiment and making my own programs. Also I will have done about 40 exams in 4 sittings (Jan 2005, May/June 2005, Jan 2006, May/June/July 2006). And they're not less work than the Leaving Cert ones either.

I wouldn't pay anything either as I was forced to move to England because I was 17 and they said as I wasn't legally an adult I had to move with them. I really resent them for that and have spent the past 2 years miserable so I wouldn't really feel right giving them anything.

First of all- while a LC cert subject may not be as intensive as the A-Levels, we have far more subjects to study than you have (typically 7 or 8). The LC is accepted by UCAS as being superior to A-Levels for points purposes (i.e. 3 A A levels is worth less than 6 A LC results). Its also far more difficult to get high results at LC than A-Levels.

Regarding resenting your parents because they forced you to move to England with them- being forced to move is a bitch, don't get me wrong. I know you probably felt more than capable of taking care of yourself- but the fact of the matter is that they were legally obliged to care for you and would have been answerable if anything went wrong. Moving away and having to make new friends (or not as the case might be) is difficult.

Personally I moved away from home at age 17 and worked part-time in a local bookshop to help with bills. I did receive financial assistance from my parents, for which I was grateful. I did also occasionally turnup on the doorstep with large bags of laundry- which Mum laundered for me without so much as a moan- thankyou Mum. You only notice these things in retrospect (many years later in my case.....)

We're all different- and for the most part our parents are only doing what they think is best (with varying degrees of success......). What works in one family may not work in another. Finances may only be one aspect- some families are keen to cut children loose and allow them experience the real world. It can be harsh and cruel- or it can be kind- people's experiences vary.

Megatron

WexCan wrote:

I suppose, but a third just seems to be a lot for a room in the house you grew up in. I agree you should contribute, but that much?

well yeah , I never had to put my hand in my pocket for anthing else in the house. well apart from the broadband , but anything else i'm never asked about.

I use a mobile when i'm calling anyone , or Skype these days. so meh....

WexCan

Megatron wrote:

well yeah , I never had to put my hand in my pocket for anthing else in the house. well apart from the broadband , but anything else i'm never asked about.

I use a mobile when i'm calling anyone , or Skype these days. so meh....

I suppose I pay for BB, VoIP, make my own meals and do dinner on a rota for a sick family member. My monthly contibution covers electric, gas, TV, room.

MorningStar

If you are a parent and you allow your child to live at home and not contribute to the household you are failing the child and yourself.
While in full time eduction the child is at least part of your responsibility. If you are unable to full take care of your child that is unfortunate but there are many things for support.
If you are in full time work and living at home you pay your way and gain rights.
As a parent you should be making sure your child is prepared for the real world. Even if you don't need the "rent" money you take it and save it for them if need be. The reality of life is if you allow them believe they can afford things like Sky, fancy clothes and the latest what ever they won't function in the real world. I know lots of people who can't manage their money at it is all the ones where the parents never put in limits. That is poor and rich a like.
The sister in-law thinks like this, she pays €45 a week plus car insurance. She plans to move out with the boyfriend and buy a house with 1600 a month mortgage. She has not been saving that money but buying clothes as she has for 5 years since out of school. She has credit card debit too so how will she function in the real world?

WexCan

MorningStar wrote:

If you are a parent and you allow your child to live at home and not contribute to the household you are failing the child and yourself.
While in full time eduction the child is at least part of your responsibility. If you are unable to full take care of your child that is unfortunate but there are many things for support.
If you are in full time work and living at home you pay your way and gain rights.
As a parent you should be making sure your child is prepared for the real world. Even if you don't need the "rent" money you take it and save it for them if need be. The reality of life is if you allow them believe they can afford things like Sky, fancy clothes and the latest what ever they won't function in the real world. I know lots of people who can't manage their money at it is all the ones where the parents never put in limits. That is poor and rich a like.
The sister in-law thinks like this, she pays €45 a week plus car insurance. She plans to move out with the boyfriend and buy a house with 1600 a month mortgage. She has not been saving that money but buying clothes as she has for 5 years since out of school. She has credit card debit too so how will she function in the real world?

Agreed, forcing to budget is always a good thing. But how many parents would actually see it in this way? A lot of parents neglect to teach their children how to save/spend wisely.

mad m

Lump wrote:

No I'm not a parent.

John

Well things change/views change when you do become one.:)

Lump

What, you like supporting your 25 year old son to live in our house and not pay you anything, while he's out enjoying the good life, banging everything in sight and snorting cocaine?

John

mad m

Lump wrote:

What, you like supporting your 25 year old son to live in our house and not pay you anything, while he's out enjoying the good life, banging everything in sight and snorting cocaine?

John

Where did cocaine come into the question about being a parent? Come come now John,why does everytime someone questions your answers that you have to think the worst or go on the offensive.

MorningStar

WexCan wrote:

Agreed, forcing to budget is always a good thing. But how many parents would actually see it in this way? A lot of parents neglect to teach their children how to save/spend wisely.

Well my parents did and most of my friends parents did too. I find the people who had little when growing up get into more trouble as they try to buy what they didn't have growing up. THey buy a lot of things on credit like TVs, stereos, computers etc... Which I only buy when I have money. They have nicer things but in heavy debit. I think it is a hang up where thye are used to their parents pay for everything gradually. The difference being these things are luxuries not vital things that their parents strugled with.
Considering the pension problem it is irresponsible for the parents and the child.

Meh, the real reason you're pissed is because 'little princess' isn't getting as much as the brother. Stop being so jealous and petty.

Your bro is pissed off and probably doesn't need you projecting on him right now. He's a young lad, that attitude is normal enough and he'll grow out of it and get on his feet.

Little princess? You don't know a thing about my situation so stop making things up. If you think it's normal to work 2 days a week and laze around the rest of the time making your whole family miserable, you need your head looking at. Maybe you recognise yourself in the description of him? I'm after reading a whole thread about how much people contribute to their parents and not only does my brother contribute NOTHING, he is affecting everyone's life. My mum rings me almost in tears 2 or 3 times a week because she can't take his behavior anymore. It's bad enough being noisy at all hours and having no respect for anyone but he insults her all the time. He called her all kinds of names and worse for daring to question why he was leaving college (when she found out
after 2 weeks, he hadn't bothered to tell them)

I also think it's totally unfair to treat us all differently. My little sister is in
her last year at school, she's applied to Cambridge and needs to do really well in her exams and yet she's working God knows how many hours a week to save for college because my parents are too busy supporting my brother. Jealous? Get a grip. I would HATE to be my brother and I feel sorry for him. He has a superiority complex and no matter where he goes he thinks everyone is beneath him. I really worry that his attitude is going to get him in serious trouble if he mouths off to the wrong person. His friends are shocked when they come round and see how he treats his family. I worked cleaning toilets all summer last year so who is the little princess in our house? Not me. It seems like YOU'RE the spoiled lazy brat of the family and trying to justify it.

rsynnott

Commander Vimes wrote:

i pay my own college fees and i think thats enough.

College fees? You mean the registration charge?

MorningStar

rsynnott wrote:

College fees? You mean the registration charge?

He could go to private college but I guess 1k must seem like they are paying a lot