Eircom Key

paulm17781

Right, you have referred to me so I will reply.

The only way to get this password is to ask the person who owns the router and connection. THERE IS NO OTHER LEGAL WAY.

You were given tips on how you may be able to find this person.

Other than this you have no choice.

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by posting here but people are not going to tell you how to get the password illegally.Try to find the guy or stop going on about it, it is fact, these are your only options until you can get your own account. I am not moaning or being sarcastic, I have even said I will stop replying unless a post is directed at me, that's hardly looking for an argument.

To summarise once again:

Try to find the guy measuring the signal strength is the only LEGAL option you have other than call around to houses near yours and ask people. No matter how many times you post here, this will not change.

This gives you the following choices: Try to find whoever owns the connection (as stated many times), wait for broadband, have no broadband.

to quote myself again

paulm17781 wrote:

I have grown tired of this. Unless you specifically refer to me I am not going to reply any more.

blahblah06

paulm17781 wrote:

Right, you have referred to me so I will reply.

The only way to get this password is to ask the person who owns the router and connection. THERE IS NO OTHER LEGAL WAY. (thats were your wrong)

You were given tips on how you may be able to find this person.

Other than this you have no choice.

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by posting here but people are not going to tell you how to get the password illegally.Try to find the guy or stop going on about it, it is fact, these are your only options until you can get your own account. I am not moaning or being sarcastic, I have even said I will stop replying unless a post is directed at me, that's hardly looking for an argument.

To summarise once again:

Try to find the guy measuring the signal strength is the only LEGAL option you have other than call around to houses near yours and ask people. No matter how many times you post here, this will not change.

This gives you the following choices: Try to find whoever owns the connection (as stated many times), wait for broadband, have no broadband.

to quote myself again

There is a way to get the codes a simple google search got me them. cheers guys btw

i knew ya would reply lol enough said.

paulm17781

blahblah06 wrote:

i knew ya wouldnt reply lol enough said

Now, that was clearly posted to incite me. As I have said twice, I am only replying if my posts are referred to. You seem to have the same issue grasping this as you have with your broadband situation. Believe it or not I have better things to do than post the same thing over and over on this board. If you do not want me to reply, do not incite me to do so. It's really very simple.

blahblah06

fair enough. lol

dar83

Christ, someones not the sharpest knife in the drawer....

blahblah06

could be a butter knife?

CyberGhost

Oh... I feel Boards sharks are sharpening their teeth and are preparing to rip the pray apart any second.

1. Get your own broadband(wireless) if you can.

2. Find the guy who has that broadband and make them an offer........ and if they refuse, call Luca Brazi.

MrPudding

CyberGhost wrote:

Oh... I feel Boards sharks are sharpening their teeth and are preparing to rip the pray apart any second.

1. Get your own broadband(wireless) if you can.

If you can not, then get yourself an Orinoco or Senao card, install airsnort and get on to decrypting, but it'll take a LONG time.

He says he already has the key, he found them on google. Aside from that you really should not be advising people on what they need to break WEP. The chances are those routers belong to someone on a capped product, if asswipe here sharts downloading the new series of lost and all the Paris Hilton videos he could land some other guy with a bill.

He has said that he would be will to pay half but only seems interested in getting the key. If he was interested in going abouy it the correct way he would make an effort to find one of the owners.

MrP

event

blahblah06 wrote:

There is a way to get the codes a simple google search got me them. cheers guys btw

i knew ya would reply lol enough said.

so why didnt you just google in the first place?

blahblah06

CyberGhost wrote:

Oh... I feel Boards sharks are sharpening their teeth and are preparing to rip the pray apart any second.

1. Get your own broadband(wireless) if you can.

If you can not, then get yourself an Orinoco or Senao card, install airsnort and get on to decrypting, but it'll take a LONG time.

nice one cyber. i got a thing called aircrack of google seems to be the same thing. at least someone has pointed me in the right direction. nice one bud

blahblah06

event wrote:

so why didnt you just google in the first place?

eh because i didnt know what the passwor dwas called ie i now know its an encryption key. jesus man read the thread before u post

blahblah06

MrPudding wrote:

He says he already has the key, he found them on google. Aside from that you really should not be advising people on what they need to break WEP. The chances are those routers belong to someone on a capped product, if asswipe here sharts downloading the new series of lost and all the Paris Hilton videos he could land some other guy with a bill.

He has said that he would be will to pay half but only seems interested in getting the key. If he was interested in going abouy it the correct way he would make an effort to find one of the owners.

MrP

do you fancy knocking around over 500 houses? i think not. seriously you ppl have to start thinking of been i nmy boots. i said i will be playing games not bloody downloading pornos.

this thread is finished i got my info so stop bitching

Duiske

paulm17781 wrote:

Whoever owns this router has a password on it. That means they do not want people leeching. If it was unprotected then it would be their fault but you are talking about cracking and stealing.

Paulm, just a quick question. Do you know if it is illegal to leech BB from an unsecured wireless set-up ? Or is it only illegal if you use some sort of hacking/cracking to get past network security. Just curious about the legalities.
On blahblah's original question , I would suggest that if the network is password protected, leave it alone. Even if you could track down the owner of the connection, and were willing to pay half the cost, he would be crazy to allow someone share his BB because, as owner of the IP address, he would be liable for anything illegal you got up to on the net, porn, music uploading, etc. Not suggesting you would do this, but I'm sure you see my point.
Anyway, if your estate if not wired, then the signal must be coming from a fair distance away from you, so would be next to useless for online gaming.

paulm17781

Duiske_Lad wrote:

Paulm, just a quick question. Do you know if it is illegal to leech BB from an unsecured wireless set-up ?

TBH, I don't know. I would assume so. I was going by the logic that if they have no security it is their own fault. You could probably say you thought it was a free service like Eircon used to do.

If something has a password it is a clear indication it is not for public use.

jonski

Duiske_Lad wrote:

Paulm, just a quick question. Do you know if it is illegal to leech BB from an unsecured wireless set-up ? Or is it only illegal if you use some sort of hacking/cracking to get past network security. Just curious about the legalities.

Just on the theory of it , if someone left their car door unlocked would it be ok to jump in and take it for a spin into town to do your shopping . Just cause someone is stupid enough not to password protect it doesn't mean it's ok for someone else to take it .In this case leech is a nice word for steal .

parsi

paulm17781 wrote:

TBH, I don't know. I would assume so. I was going by the logic that if they have no security it is their own fault.

Where do you live ? I need some turf for my lawn and if yours isn't locked down I assume I can come and dig it up....if you have any planters out front I'll take them as well (if I've room).

MarkR

blahblah06 wrote:

Hi lads. moved into a new estate and my wireless card picked up 3 signals from eircom but they are passworded. is there some sort of standard password?

Sure. Username is "ima"
Password is "cheapleachingthief"

If it doesn't work the first time, try it left handed.

Duiske

parsi wrote:

Where do you live ? I need some turf for my lawn and if yours isn't locked down I assume I can come and dig it up....if you have any planters out front I'll take them as well (if I've room).

I think you mis-understood what paulm was getting at. Wireless BB is going to be leeched if someone makes it openly available. No, its not right, but there are people who will do it. To use your analogy, if you knew there was a sneaky little thief with a fetish for garden planters running around your area, then you would'nt leave your planters out without at least securing them in some way, would you ?

skye

Fair enough but that still doesn't make it right for them to steal them does it?? Majority of people here are pointing out that what yer man wants is not right to do and that they have the moral decency not to do it - certainly wouldn't want him for a neighbour....

Duiske

skye wrote:

Fair enough but that still doesn't make it right for them to steal them does it?? Majority of people here are pointing out that what yer man wants is not right to do and that they have the moral decency not to do it - certainly wouldn't want him for a neighbour....

No, does not give them the right to steal it. As you say yourself, the majority here believe its not right, but there are a lot of blahblah's out there, so why make it easy for them ? I would advise anyone using wireless to not only use wep, but to restrict access by mac address as well.

paulm17781

parsi wrote:

Where do you live ? I need some turf for my lawn and if yours isn't locked down I assume I can come and dig it up....if you have any planters out front I'll take them as well (if I've room).

I live in an apartment. If I owned a turf field or had turf lying around, I would atleast make sure there was a locked gate. As I said, I assume it is illegal to take it I just don't know.

My point is that if something isn't secure there is a risk. I can get 5 unlocked wireless signals in my apartment. I pay for my BB and have just bought a wireless router. I will ensure it is locked down. I would not steal someones bandwith as I assume it is illegal, if people are stupid enough not to lock it, it will be taken much like bikes, cars, stereos and in your case, turf.

Cheers Duiske_Lad, that is exactly what I meant.

skye

I take your point - it should be secured. But coming on here and asking how he can break into his neighbours wireless??? And certain people advising him how to do it?? Thankfully most are against this - he can make all the pretence he wants by saying "I will pay for half...blahblah" (very appropriate handle) but in reality he wants to steal it and find out how to do that - only one word springs to mind here - scumbag.

Duiske

Blahblah, heres a site that might be of interest to you, in case your thinking further ahead in life. Just thought I would save you the trouble of starting a thread for advice. :cool:

parsi

Duiske_Lad wrote:

I think you mis-understood what paulm was getting at. Wireless BB is going to be leeched if someone makes it openly available. No, its not right, but there are people who will do it. To use your analogy, if you knew there was a sneaky little thief with a fetish for garden planters running around your area, then you would'nt leave your planters out without at least securing them in some way, would you ?

Indeed. However I might not know that such a thing as a sneaky little thief with a fetish for planters existed until the day the Guard turned up and said - we caught this guy using your planter to throw through a windscreen of a Brinks van.

Not every user is tech-savvy. Eircom seem to be dishing out the wireless jobbies like winegums at a kiddies party. Just because someone doesn't secure their router doesn't make it right to use it.

Ziycon

Use netstubler with a gps reciever and u'll find it in no time by taking three locations in the area and triangulate the signal!

Duiske

parsi wrote:

Indeed. However I might not know that such a thing as a sneaky little thief with a fetish for planters existed until the day the Guard turned up and said - we caught this guy using your planter to throw through a windscreen of a Brinks van.

Point taken. A simple manual supplied with wireless routers giving security set-up instructions, and a warning about the implications of not setting up security on the network would be really useful. Especially now that the music rights crowd are in the process of bringing Irish people to court for up/downloading music via the net. Its not the up/downloader that takes the heat, its the person in who's name the BB connection is registered.

parsi wrote:

Just because someone doesn't secure their router doesn't make it right to use it.

Agreed 100%. But unfortunatly the fact that this thread is even here goes to show that some people could'nt give a rats @r$£; about what's right or wrong.

MrPudding

parsi wrote:

Not every user is tech-savvy. Eircom seem to be dishing out the wireless jobbies like winegums at a kiddies party. Just because someone doesn't secure their router doesn't make it right to use it.

We are not talking about unsecured APs here. This guy is detecting secured APs. Leeching off an unsecured AP is bad IMO but it comes down to human nature, for some people it is OK to get something at the expense of others. I think it was a bit irresponsible for €ircon to give free wireless routers away unless they provided adequate instructions or support in order to help the punters to make them secure.

I understand that at the end of the day it is down to the user to make their installation secure but we are talking about people that have potentially no technical knowledge.

To get back to the original [strike]scumbag[/strike] poster, to is activly trying to break the security on a router that someone has actually made an effort to secure. There is no excuse here. This is not a case of accidentally connecting. Had the person owning this router wanted to share it with free loading assholes they would not have secured it.

blahblah06

lo lads use are unreal. as i said before you would do it if you had no access. end of

blahblah06

Ziycon wrote:

Use netstubler with a gps reciever and u'll find it in no time by taking three locations in the area and triangulate the signal!

thanks ziycon. if someone had of told me how to use this none of this would have came about. ill give that a go. cheers mate

Gurgle

blahblah06 wrote:

lo lads use are unreal. as i said before you would do it if you had no access. end of

Yes because everybody is a thieving leech like you.

You've been told a dozen times that it has to be a house close to you so you should start knocking on doors but you've made it clear that you'd rather steal bandwidth than bother trying to find out.